god jack handey If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is God is crying. And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is Probably because of something you did. 980821 ... jeff god is nothing. god is everything. god is our own concept of self and perfection mixed together and personified. it is our need to justify our existence, and explain our future. it is the embodiment of human frailty and weakness. therefore, i feel nothing but hatred of the concept whose mere presence keeps us tied down... 980905 ... Caine If, like you say, God is just a mental speed bump, preaching against Him doesn't hurt anyone but yourself by keeping that dislogistic concept so firmly in your mind. Release the image and become Zero with the universal consciousness, by all means. 980905 ... caty oh please. 981006 ... drew we all have, are, and will collect and release images of god, over and over again. that is the nature of god... that ultimately we are the everything without anything. it's funny how we can't really handle this process of constant instinctive change, so we ignore this and claim the existence of "one true image". it still goes on inside though... we just hide our hearts from ourselves, concealing our own deitic nature. there's a reason it's called the divine comedy, you see. 981006 ... walt god? god is dead. 981022 ... Emma God is a bogey of your mind. Some people happen to lack that particular bogey. And for some reason our society is built in such a way that the absence of a mental "god" makes these people substantially different from their religious counterparts. Why should I have to continue to defend myself to you? 981103 ... k goddess ? 981121 ... thenestor Actually, K, I prefer to believe that (if it exists) God is neither male nor female, but rather the sum of everything or the smallest particle. 981231 ... adam i have one thing to say on the subject: Nietzsche 990303 ... emma what irritates me is the staunch capital H. although, actually, the best way to say it is "If there is a god, you are an authorized representative." hells yeah. 990303 ... kyo it's me god 990328 ... Rainer God is dead and you killed him. 990329 ... scenerychanges if you belive there is no god, you had better hope you are right.... 990410 ... James If God is real then most are happy. If God is not then all are unhappy. 990411 ... daxle I think it's a little presumptuous to make a statement about everyone. If you know what everyone thinks or does, you're delusional, and/or god. 990421 ... mike One of Nietszche's fundamental contentions was that traditional values (represented primarily by Christianity) had lost their power in the lives of individuals. He expressed this in his proclamation “God is dead.” He was convinced that traditional values represented a “slave morality,” a morality created by weak and resentful individuals who encouraged such behavior as gentleness and kindness because the behavior served their interests. Nietzsche claimed that new values could be created to replace the traditional ones, and his discussion of the possibility led to his concept of the overman or superman. ......Nietzsche was wrong. God is not dead, but many are killing his name. One must make an attempt to experience God before one is sure God does not exist. i have experienced God's power through prayer, praise and in solitude. I know God exists. 990603 ... tom if god exists would it change the way you f e e l about the way you live your life? and do you think the way you live your life would influence your v i e w of whether god exists ? 990619 ... drew nietzsche is right... god told me so... 990621 ... John Life's greatest tragedy is to lose the presence of God and not even know that you've lost it. 990626 ... lee Love is a proud god, a gypsy magician who slips the locks like hodini-leaving me to thrash in these real chains 990719 ... Lothaine Collective ignorance. What would you think of an adult who believed in Santa Clause? P.S. I don't need church to have morals. 990720 ... benji "God is the name humans give to the power they can't admit that they have" - the late Colin O'Connell 990902 ... Drennan If justice is blind then so is God, I personally hope that God is blind to what goes on down here, either that or he really is a mean, uncaring little bastard. To be capable of so much yet unwilling to do anything about it. Why is God so fucking mean? 990929 ... Drennan I distrust God not because he hates the way of life we have taken, but because he is incapable of good honest, human hatred. 990929 ... Drennan The beast who shouted, “I am God” at the heart of the world. 990929 ... bjoesloe Although Christianity does have an ugly face, God patiently endures this horrible misrepresentation, while simple people quietly effuse His humble, merciful, loving ways. Jesus was and is rejected today because He has no Hollywood appeal- a simple carpenter, living an extraordinary life, but rejecting the power, influence, and fame that could have been easliy His. 991025 ... kirby187 what? 991026 ... Daniel Just - another - three - letter - word - some - people - might - use - it - in - their - evaluation - some - might - not - just - another - three - letter - word - just another absolute in the life with no absolutes (HYPOCRITE)! 991108 ... thenestor Nietzsche died of syphilis. 991116 ... ><> God is awsome 991116 ... one of the whole one of the two said "but i am the real twin" half of the whole said "i am complete" and we laughed 991118 ... Psalm 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. 991127 ... |sCaRReD*disTrOyeD| Different things to different people. Different concepts. Different names. Different expectations. Different religions. Made-up? Not real? Invisable? Imaginary? Strong? Weak? Big? Small? He? She? Beautiful? Ugly? So many questions. No answers. Is there a heaven? Is there a hell? Where do we go when we die? Do we just become food for worms, or is there more to life than that? Is there another world? A paradise perhaps? We will never know. We can only wait until the day that we are taken. 991127 ... marjorie not i. free to be subservient. 991203 ... lion pieces of a broken god we are find It in silence. 991224 ... SkotMan If this were my last breath, I'd tell you where I'll be. Then I'd ask you if you'd be there with me. --PFR 991226 ... SkotMan I don't understand how anyone can pretend that God doesn't exist. It's much harder to look for reasons to disprove God, because they simply aren't there. 991226 ... SkotMan Why fight AGAINST something that doesn't exist? Even flinching at the arm of God is acknowledging that your enemy IS. An enemy who bombards your sticks and stones with love... more love... and more love... and more love... and more love... but you don't want love, do you? 991226 ... its not about me If you believe in God and you're wrong, then it doesn't matter. You were happy when you died. If you believe and you're right, i'll see you there. 991226 ... Quintessensual My God If you believe in some god, fine. I mean all of you or anyone, not just those few I have special affection for and (thank god) have the same for me, although I certainly have affection for all who take precious time to blathe even when it's so dark so much of the day and so cold; but I digress. My hope for you then is that you are not like many - probably almost all - people who do the same. They use belief in a god as a crutch for insecurity in facing the reality that humans cannot know everything, to supply a substitute (in the form of some person like a rabbi, priest, minister, or shaman) for thinking for themselves on difficult questions, or, worst of all, to abdicate personal responsibility to participate in solving the real problems of the world, their countries, their regions, their cities, and their neighborhoods, not to mention their families and their children. I wish everybody would simply accept that we can never know everything and that the unknown is not a reasonable cause for insecurity but an opportunity to have eureka experiences or learn from those who have. So I wish everyone, rather than wasting money on a god who surely doesn't need the money, would support science and other forms of learning for learning's sake, so that we can know as much as possible and provide as sound as possible a basis for effectively addressing real problems that afflict our planet and all its people. I wish everyone would be secure enough to think for herself or himself, then surely war and genocide would rarely occur. I wish everybody would believe, as President Kennedy said, "On this Earth, God's work must truly be our own." And act on that belief rather than waste money on and sit in "places of worship" other than personal living spaces, neighborhood centers, the open sea, or the open air. On that note, I'm going to worship this afternoon. Anyone want to come cross-country skiing with me to make sure the eagles' nests have not been disturbed? Copr. 1999 991227 ... marjorie your god is in your dreams and in your soul wanting you to hear between your shots and agitation draw near into the voice you’re looking for that calms your heart trading your faults for what you’ve always wanted …what you’ve needed without knowing come into that simple fortune place …that god within your soul 991228 ... alicia question: what happens when you combine an agnostic, a dyslexic, and an insomniac? answer: a person who stays up all nite, wondering if there really is a dog. ha! ha! eh.. yeah 991228 ... GOD ;o) :o) all these answers are part of the hole.. i mean whole... I have enjoyed all your replies signed, God 000104 ... jennifer "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be: but as it isn't, it ain't. 'That's logic." 000104 ... Divine Madnesss What we call God can, logically, be nothing or everything, none of this gray matter in the middle. I prefer to believe that god is both--god, all in all, seems to defy pure human logic through paradox that extends beyond human comprehensive capability. 000105 ... jess What do I do here? Don’t say you don’t know I need to figure it out Don’t let me have another nervous breakdown Just tell me the truth What I want to hear I tried so hard Why did you repay me with this? What did I do to deserve this? Why would God have let this happen Is he really there? You would think he’d be more real More caring then this Guess he isn’t what I thought I hate men Wasting energy I can’t deal with it anymore If people only cared We kill each other Use each other Since when did God stop working? Someone wake him up Not selfish, just worried He lost control once and gave up Don’t give up so easily Why won’t he listen… Can’t force it…but can’t pretend Now that I’m lost Now that I’m trapped How do I get back to where I was before? Why am I the one... I get teased and used I just need to be safe I need to find a way back to the past I need to get to him and let him know Maybe something happened to him Maybe he is as lost as I am I can’t fight on my own I am too weak I can’ be everything to everyone Why do they take advantage and think that Never gonna find a way to him Never gonna change things I give up 000112 ... tom i once z e a l o u s l y tried to argue with a surfer who said that she saw god on a p e r f e c t wave in a perfect s u n s e t i wish i had seen the light that day there is no room i n s i d e a box 000117 ... Moravian Piglet. To me, as a Christian, God is my creator, my saviour, my being, my everything. As I say in the creed, "All things come from you, and of your own do we give you." God is first and last, one and three, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. God is my all. 000124 ... spikey-ho if you say so 000202 ... camille "Before" does not outstrip Him, "after" does not interrupt Him "of" does not vie with Him for precedence "from" does not accord with Him "to" does not join with Him "in" does not inhabit Him "when" does not stop Him "if" does not consult with Him "over" does not overshadow Him "under" does not support Him "opposite" does not face Him "with" does not press Him "behind" does not limit Him "previous" does not display Him "after" does not cause Him to pass away "all" does not unite Him "is" does not bring Him into being "is not" does not deprive Him from Being. Concealment does not veil Him His pre-existence preceded time, His being preceded non-being, His eternity preceded limit. If thou sayest 'when', His existing has outstripped time; If thou sayest 'before', before is after Him; If thou sayest 'he', 'h' and 'e' are His creation; If thou sayest 'how', His essence is veiled from description; If thou sayest 'where', His being preceded space; If thou sayest 'ipseity' (ma huwa), His ipseity (huwiwah) is apart from things. Other than He cannot be qualified by two (opposite) qualities at one time; yet With Him they do not create opposition. He is hidden in His manifestation, manifest in His concealing. He is outward and inward, near and far; and in this respect He is removed beyond the resemblance of creation. He acts without contact, instructs without meeting, guides without pointing. Desires do not conflict with Him, thoughts do not mingle with Him: His essence is without qualification, His action without effort. 000202 ... old hick Bill here had a near death experience once. He saw God. Oh really? (turning to Bill) What's God like? She's black. 000217 ... Fucked Useless. I figure head in the church's campaign to brainwash humanity. A political tool. A somewhat amusing attempt to answer all that cannot be answered. A symbol of order in the chaos that is. Comfort to those who cannot face the fact that in the universe comfort has no place. Terror, fear, manipulation, and VIOLENCE are the laws of nature. Chaos is, was, and will be whether we choose to accept it or not. 000220 ... Verdulum I am god. Now quit grovelling. (who says a god can't sit back and unwind at blather.newdream.net for a bit?) 000223 ... dizzy ya know, no. god would be somting totally different if alot of old people would have wrote somthing else completly different in a book. now why people belive it, i wonder why? tell them to fuck themselfs for all they care, and click on fuck, add to the fuckers, fucking on a god page, go fuckin figure....... 000302 ... pablo god is a strange thing... i used to be an atheist, i thought religion was stupid, silly, a waste of time and energy... my parents didn't bring me up with religion or anything, i didn't believe in much. but then i met this girl... this wonderful, wonderful girl. she opened my eyes to so many things that i took for granted. she's a methodist. and i began to believe... to really believe in things that weren't material, things that were beyond what i could know... god may be as much the people you know as anything. 000303 ... typhoid even most atheists believe in things that arn't material, such as capitalism and the international date line 000304 ... Quake and a lotta people 000304 ... vega The believer accepts the existence of god on faith. Then, does not the non believer deny the existence of god on a similar faith ? At some point or another the non believer has to accept a fundamental premise upon empirical knoweledge which he or she has faith, or some hazy concept akin to faith in. How can one faith be more valid than another ? For this reason I can niether deny nor accept the existence of god. 000304 ... miniver One "faith" is based on the unquestioning acceptance of the stale dogma of an antiquated time; one is based on an evolved, evolving system of logical reasoning and deduction. (Inevitably, this were the same, the -only- human system of reasoning that once nurtured the young, plausible-at-that-state-of-knowledge would-be dogma before it grew so unavoidably, and, to some, unnoticably, outdated and had those now justifiably "nonbelieving" puppma's of its own). The difference is in levels of absurdity -- between "prove to me that fluorescent purple, magical dancing gophers don't grow on trees" and "give me any remotely logical, potentially supportable reason to even -approach- the possibility that fluorescent purple, magical-whatever gophers might grow on trees before I embarass the intelligent few of our species by taking you seriously enough to expend the effort it takes to disbelieve". No faith "need" be more "valid", nor more "right" or "wrong". But, as certainly as humanity seeks to impose order on his life, the nearly-standardized (though, of course, neither by any claim of mine perfect, universal, nor even, arguably, objective) system that our wee minds have developed by which to impose that order is one of certain humanly-universal standards/fundamental hypotheses of the logic of neural networking. That is, so far as I have yet reasoned, either belief can be more or less logical by some measure of our present and/or accumulative logical standings. From here, it all grows suddenly and quite gelatinously political, and I prefer to very subtly, somehow, stop blathering. ... Oh, eh-- look! Over there!... 000313 ... Midnight Bliss is a figment of one's imagination...maybe it just takes patience to wait for him to answer you, but i have no patience...i have no proof that he exists...although i want to beleive he's there, i just can't bring myself to beleive it...it's all a bunch of crap to me...he is said to be good, he is said to be almighty, he is said to have absolute power, yet when will he prevail? when will he allow me to know that he's 4real? when will i come out of this "darkness" to see that he is the brighter side of life? never...never...i will never leave my entrancing darkness...i seek comfort in the darkness, so why waste my time looking for the light of the "god"? i don't undersand... 000320 ... MollyGoLightly the ones who don't believe bash the ones who do, and vice versa. athiest dogma vs. christian dogma. things get so funny on this thing sometimes. 000321 ... scarred.star God never existed. 000327 ... aeiou it's just a word; dog spelled backwards. 000327 ... mathieu too many people use god as a life-after-death insurance policy. a just-in-case "because you don't want to be wrong"... that god sounds like another name for fear. 000330 ... souljah 'God'-or any other name you would like to use-is the cunning invention of man, and we cover that invention, by incese, by rituals, by various forms of beliefs, dogmas, separating man as catholics, hindus, moslems, parsis, buddhists, all the clever cunning structure invented by man. Man, having invented it, is caught in it. Without understanding the present world, the world he lives in-the world of his misery, the world of his confusion, sorrow, anxiety, despair, and the agony of existence, the complete loneliness, the sence of utter futility of life-without understandig all that, the mere multiplication of ideas, however satisfactory, has no value at all. 000403 ... souljah Your mind must be completely free,and only then can you see what is true-not by acceptanceof some superstition, nor by reading of the so-call sacred books, nor by following some guru. Only when you have this freedom,this real freedom from external influencesas well as from your own desires and longings so that your mind is verey clear-only then is it possible to find out what GOD is. But if you merly sit down and speculate, than your guess is as good as your guru's and equally illusory. 000403 ... dicole Is detachment from one's longings and desires, and I would guess all other subjective threads of existence, really possible ? It seems to me that finding out this whole god business in the state you prescribe would be futile. How can i discover truth out of myself from a cold third person stance? God cannot be found in a world independent of self. Of course, all of this presupposes the possibility of a god, which I find more and more amusing..... 000403 ... souljah The mind is the known-the known being that wich has been experienced. With that measure, we try to know the unknown. But the known can obviously never know the unknown; It can know only what it has experienced, what it has been taught, what it has gathered. Can the mind see the trueth of its own incapacity to know the unknown? Surely if I see very clearly that my mind can not know the unknown, there is absolute quietness. If I feel like I can capture the unkown with the known, I make a lot of noise; I talk, I reject, I choose, I try to find a way to it. But if the mind relizes its own absolute incapacity to know the unknown, if it perceives that it connot take a single step towards the unknown, then what happens? The mind becomes utterly silent. It is not in despair; it is no longer seeking anything. 000403 ... elise If there really was a christian god I think I'd like to wring his neck for him, for condemming me to a punishment without a trial, and without my consent or even my knowlege. God, if you're realy out there, you're a complete and utter bastard. 000425 ... faae is nameless, faceless, yet we're told he's still out there somewhere, waiting for us to hold out our hands and touch his face, which isn't really there. Or so we're told. 000518 ... apotheotatic_me People say that it would be much easier to eblieve in God if he would make himself known. If God is this all powerful being, why doesn't od just show up at my front door? Because if he did, I'd have to believe in him. I'd have no chice. Now, I believe in him because I want to. It's called free will people. Hear, O Israel! Our lord, our God. Our Lord is one. 000529 ... apotheotatic_me People say that it would be much easier to believe in God if he would make himself known. If God is this all powerful being, why doesn't God just show up at my front door? Because if he did, I'd have to believe in him. I'd have no choice. Now, I believe in him because I want to. It's called free will people. Hear, O Israel! Our lord, our God. Our Lord is one. 000529 ... peter Scratching my head (with both hands!) That's either some or no idea bubbling Catholic school changed everything, of course. Now, after Satre and Lao Tzu I have even less of a definite answer. Rrgh. Why am I here? 000530 ... Winged Serpent (the imago emerges) i've said it before i'll say it again. But it appears i must say it differently now. These things undermine the faith i had as a child: * if heaven is perfect, then why did some of the angels rebel? surely, if all was in complete harmony, if it truly was the best of all possible worlds, free will would dictate acceptance of the status quo. G-d demands absolutes from us that he himself cannot live up to. * the creation and continued existence of Hell undermines the notion of a loving and all-forgiving deity, especially when one compares the span of a human lifetime to the concept of eternity. The devil in his infinite hubris would still have to acknowledge that if G-d is still the higher power and the biblical apocalypse is both inevitable and a forgone conclusion, then he would have no other recourse than to repent his transgressions. yet he does not. So what gives? * If god is both omniscient and omnipotent, he knows what we will be guilty of before we are guilty of it. Scripture says that if we are aware of the wrongs that another intends to commit but take no action against it, than we are as guilty as the transgressors themselves. "in what i have done and in what i have failed to do." G-d is/was/will be aware of our sins ong before we ever think to commit them, but lets us go on unabataed anyway. * If, as i have stated before, the biblical apocalypse is both inevitable and a foregone conclusion, then it stands to reason that G-d created the world with the intention of destroying it when he no longer felt like dealing with it (not that he's dealt directly with any of it since the period of history covered in the earliest parts of the new testament. Knowing this, i cannot give my love, faith or acceptance to somone who has been plotting the end of the world from the moment he created it. Prophecy is the window to the predestined, predestination negates free will. If i am evil, if i do wrong, it is the will and the fault of him that set me in motion. Good requires evil to define itself against. G-d created the devil, meaning that the devil himself is the work of G-d, "quod era demonstratum" (meaning roughly "effectively demonstrating") that evil is the work of G-d. I neither believe nor disbelieve, this is the nature of paradox. Either stance necessitates acceptance of a set of absolutes that will, under close scrutiny, contradict themselves. 000530 ... silent bob God is that religious grandfather's voice that screams at us from THOUSANDS of years ago.."Do it...do it and i'll FUCKIN SPANK YOU!" 000601 ... paranoia raped my eyes of seeing all good things with his evil creations. therefore, i cover my eyes from his presence. he does not exist anymore. 000623 ... retrograde One of the only things we as a species are willing to accept without any physical proof. Hmmm... 000705 ... gwyllynne ...as we lay that next morning.....our bodies entwined....she kept whispering about angels and god as all i could hear was those demon trumpets and devil trombones......dog, the devil it is all the same....perspective hazy.....smelling the last shred of her sweet, sweet, innocence I tasted her sould .......she says she saw god and finally heard the trumpets herralding her decent into the darkness.....the hedonism she once shunned......and for that very moment she was mine 000713 ... erin "god is dead" --Nietzche "god is dead, but who would have thought he was so short?" --the kids in the hall "nietzche is dead" --god 000713 ... the real you I picture some sort of on off switch inside... don't ask me what it does. Make you happy, maybe? 000807 ... claudia god is whatever. god is our excuse to live. god is there so that we can try to make sense of our sad little lives. we create a god because we can't possibly imagine that what we are is it. because if we were were truly the essence of exitstence, that would be very pathetic. because that means there is something more. and that means we would have to care about our lives. but we don't. and if there is a god, i hope he's got a sense of humour. in religion class, the textbook tried to describe god. 'god is everything. god is in everything and everyone. god came from himself. god exists completely out of time and space. god is inconditional love. god is love better than any human. god will be waiting for you with open arms. god is three parts yet complete on it's own. god just wants you to be happy. all god wants is for you to be like him'.....and the whole time i was reading it, i was just thinking 'who in the world would want that???' not me. 000808 ... claudia you know what's wierd? one day, each and every one of us will discover if god really exists. and you can't run. because you will be faced with the answer. when you die, you will then know the answer. now, i give you something to look forward to. this is something to look forward to. you will know, but i'm not sure if i'm ready to know yet. not now, anyways. 000808 ... turmoil are you calling me fat? 000808 ... Woodstok alot of people have stuff to0 say about GOD........AS YOU CAN SEE BUT TO0 TELL YOU THE TRUTH I WOULD BE DEAD IF HE WAS'ENT THERE I WOULD HAVE DIED A THOOUSEND TIMES OVER!!!!!!!! 000824 ... cam death is only once, there is no looking back, if god were to show up in the physical nothing would change.. look at the israelites,as told in the story,waters of the oceans were parted,still nothing was changed. God is what becomes your infatuation, your preoccupation 000824 ... Seth If he exists, he has no bearing on any of the decisions I make in my life. If he doesn't exist, then I'm a hipocrite. Either way, I'm still breathing, so it really doesn't matter. And if I stop breathing for some reason, then it will matter even less. 000830 ... Raynor I believe that there is no God as a such. I do, however believe that there is a higher diety. If a god didn't create the planets, but the Big-Bang, who put the dust, or whatever other particles in space for the Big-Bang to be possible? 000906 ... pixies pal My mormon friend told me she asked her brother what he thought of the Big Bang theory. He said "It doesn't shake my faith in God. If there was a big bang, then that's how god did it." 000907 ... Lao Tzu (more or less) When the path is lost, there is goodness When goodness is lost, there is morality When morality is lost, there is ritual Ritual is the husk of true faith; The beginning of chaos 000907 ... dopple Like an automobile a watch and a house, all of which have a unique plan and design which took a designer to design it, so do things like people, plants, and animals also have a unique plan and design with their own designer, namely God. 000911 ... d ...sometimes ya just don't come through 000912 ... blath Lao it's cool to know you frequent this place - Lao Tzu "Seeking Him I reached the mosque. But all I found there were vain discussions on sacraments and ceremonials. I was advised to go visit the temple. There I found only idols being worshipped and gongs being sounded." 000912 ... Lao Tzu (literally "old man") we join spokes together in a wheel, but it is the center hole that makes the wagon move. We shape clay into a pot, but it is the emptiness inside that makes it useful. We hammer wood for a house, but it is the inner space that makes it livable. We work with being, but non-being is what we use. 000914 ... Lao Tzu (literally "old man") god is just the torch light in an otherwise dark and scary cave. i prefer using my own flashlight. 000914 ... ubliss Who is the creator of World wide web (WWW) or Internet, a Global Network for you to exercise your creativity; explore the greatness of Hell, Heaven and our Universe; enjoy the taste of Ultimate Bliss or Happiness; ... With the advances of the electronic, digital and computing, wireless, ... technologies, you are able to read, view and perceive the dirty and beauty parts of our World; change the shape of our Universe; ... It must be GOD... or somebody with the permission from GOD??? 000915 ... ubliss GOD's Power Power (P) is Effort (E) over Time (T) P = E/T Time (T) is Money (M) T = M Money (M) can buy material (m) M = m Thus, P = E/m or Power is Effort over material. Given that our (including GOd ???)maximum Effort is limited, it concluded that to gain more Power beyond the maximum Effort is to reduce the material needs. GOD's Power is Limitless or Inifinity, thus m must be equal to 0 or ZERO material. Sound Interesting, But ABSTRACT!!!. 000916 ... ubliss ***** ubliss:- The Ultimate Bliss ***** Subject: GOD's Power Version 1.1 Power (P) is Effort (E) over Time (T) P = E/T Time (T) is Money (M) T = M Money (M) can buy material (m) M = m Thus, P = E/M or E/m i.e. Power is Effort over Money or Power is Effort over material. Given that Total Effort we can deliver or contribute in our Life Time is limited as we can't solve all our past, present and future problems and/or issues, it means that the only WAY to gain more Power beyond our Total Effort is to reduce the Money or Material needs. If we accept and believe that 1. GOD can't solve or help us to solve all our problems/ issues; and all the problems/ issues in our Universe; and 2. GOD's Power is Limitlessness or Infinity, then M & m must both be equal to ZERO. GOD has ZERO Money and ZERO material by the above Scientific Reasoning. Sound LOGICAL, But ABSTRACT!!!. ©2000 ubliss.com. All rights reserved. 000917 ... kx21 The CREATOR of GOD It could created by SOMETHING, by SOMEBODY, by CHANCE, by NOBODY or from NOTHING. If it can't be created by SOMETHING or by SOMEBODY, then it is created by CHANCE, by NOBODY or from NOTHING. 000926 ... Jon Where ever you are. What ever you do. He's there. When ever you feel like there's no where to turn. He's with you. Don't be affraid. He and I will allways support and protect you. allways. He is with you. 001005 ... jon i am god. so are you. 001007 ... Colfax Those of you "scientific" fellows out there really should chalk up on your knowledge of the historical accuracy and scientific accuaracy contained in the Bible. It's fairly amazing that the Bible had over fourty different authors write books of it over hundreds of years in about three different languages, and they didn't contradict eachother. So you can say there is no God if you'd like, but your arguments about the Bible being written by a bunch of old men falls pretty flat. The only certain thing I can point out is that no amount of blathering, debating, ranting or raving here will bring closure to the idea or truth behind God. It seems that the majority of blatheres are the kind of people that are willing to blame the world if they get a nosebleed, or stub their toe. The basic attitude seems to be "If there is a God, why did he make my life so rotten." I can only speak for myself when I say that I know exactly why my life has been rotten... and the damndest thing is that it's been that way specifically when I do the exact opposites of the values and morals taught in the Bible. You should give it a read sometime. I'm not sure if they sell cliff notes. 001012 ... grendel how typically condescending 001012 ... grendel if the mechanics of faith are correct than it stands to reason that some of us were predestined to oppose God or deny God if he does not exist, it's no great surprise to me if he does exist i hate him for what he has planned dear_god 001012 ... The Puppettron I am god. worship me. and my pants. »from nothing to nothing« »die at my command« 001014 ... Babylon Brother God, why do men have nipples? Ok --- one of mine is erogenous --- so, why do I have two? 001016 ... erin th juicy jipsy Dios mio! 001016 ... GOD! WHO ATE MY FUCKING CHEETOS??!!! 001021 ... kx21 ***The CREATOR of GOD v2*** It could be created by SOMETHING, by SOMEBODY, by CHANCE, by NOBODY or from NOTHING. If it is not created by SOMEBODY or by SOMETHING, then it is created by CHANCE, by NOBODY or from NOTHING. A feasible answer of the creator of GOD... GOD is created by one or more of the followings: - SOMEBODY or SOMETHING - CHANCE - NOBODY or from NOTHING - None of the above; or The Creator of GOD is an unsolvable question!!! 001022 ... god yeh. if i think about it too much, my heads start to hurt. don't let it get you down, though. go buy a syd barrett ablbum and burn up a fat doob. i approve! 001026 ... pETAH a hope follish humans look for 001107 ... ubliss ***ubliss: The Ultimate Bliss*** Subject: GOD Those who know GOD, do not require GOD... Those who require GOD, do not know GOD... Copyright 2000. ubliss.com 001108 ... satan my dad he grows the best weed 001109 ... SCOTT the concept of god is an illusion that we project out of our manifest need for a higher power we define god-he rejects us dispassionately 001109 ... god (still in mexico) and i grow the best weed! 001109 ... Satan yeah, he's pretty high alright... how else do you explain the platypus 001109 ... ubliss ***ubliss: The Ultimate Bliss*** Subject: GOD v2.0 Those who know GOD, do not require GOD... Those who require GOD, do not know GOD... Those who know GOD, do not search for GOD... Those who search for GOD, do not know GOD... Those who know GOD, do not pray to GOD? Those who pray to GOD, do not know GOD? Are there any certain and visible WAYS to DISCOVER GOD and to show the existence of GOD? Copyright 2000. ubliss.com 001109 ... g. zuss i know where he lives! 001109 ... Snakeyes where is god? please tell me i need to see him & ask him a question i have to ask him: why u and why me? 001110 ... god getting a massage dude- i'm on vacation. satan is in charge while i'm away. i'll answer questions next week. for now i'm just pokin' around at my leisure. 001110 ... Glory Box is a confusing concept, wrapped in visions of beautiful virgins and virtuous housewives, both on my "To Do" list. 001111 ... god yo yo yo. yo quiero taco bell. ha ha. i'm back! 001116 ... guitar_freak god is a way people can get on with their lives. If one believes that something greater than themselves is watching over them, they feel comforted. I believe it is bullshit however. That is just my opinion and everyone needs to find there own way to fill the gap in your heart. By god, by music, by love. Whatever works for you. I think that telling a person they are wrong about what they believe isn't fair either. If they believe it, it is true for them. Even if they are delusional ar whatever. I just couldn't believe in an evil god. I mean god sends people to eternal damnation if you don't believe that he sent his son to be slaughtered on a cross for you. evil evil. He killed his own son. fine jesus choose his fate. Either way he is selfish. If you don't believe in ME you are going to suffer the rest of your eternal life!!! However, if you do believe in me, you will live a happy and blissful existance for eternity. How dumb is that? I personally want to just die and be done with it and that is exactly what I believe will happen. But is up to everyone to make their own decision, but to be open and understanding to everyone else. 001124 ... god DON'T YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU AFTER YOU DIE?! 001124 ... Rhin Creamy God 001124 ... god yup. p.s. see ask_silentbob for the answer to above. 001124 ... guitar_freak Of course I want to know what happens when I die. That means to me that I am not going to blindly follow someone else's beliefs. I am going to follow my own beliefs. I won't know what the hell happens and who is right until I am quite dead. I don't want to close my mind while I can still be open to other opinions and options. 001201 ... god more power to ya. 001205 ... kx21 Is Bible a Fiction, a Story, a Description, a Theory or a Biography about GOD? 001207 ... SnAkEyEs There is no god but Man. Every man and every woman is a star. Every number is infinite; there is no difference. 001208 ... god kx21- it's all of these. snake eyes- right on. 001208 ... kx21 Dear SnAkEyEs, Are you trying to conclude that GOD is a fabricated figure from MAN? Is it true that in REALITY, most of the men and women are destined to be MOLES of DUST instead of twinkling STARS? 001209 ... god moles of dust? that's cool. every man, every woman shall be a mole, a mote, a star, etc. everybody will be everything. 001209 ... unhinged god knows i'm helpless to speak on my own behalf god is as helpless as me caught in the negatives we all just do as we please false transmissions i hope god forgives me for my transgressions it's what you want to know no consequences it's what you need to fucking bleed it's all too much god knows i'm helpless god knows i'm restless and weak full of piss and vinegar god knows we sow what we reap in the dirt of granduer when the darkness comes to me and it fixes it's gaze on me god knows i'm helpless it's what you want to know no consequences it's what you need to fucking bleed it's all too much god knows i'm helpless you break your back for what you can't have you can't turn back god knows i'm helpless ----- billy corgan 001217 ... god i know. 001224 ... Quiggz Who knows? I sure as heck don't, and I have a fair amount of dislike for people who think they're absolutely right. I'm very willing to hear people out on the subject, and discuss it politely, but I don't like having another belief forced on me. I guess we'll all find out at some point or another? God is all that can be, might be, could be, is was, will be, and any other tense you can think of. Maybe. Or maybe He (Or She, or It) is not there at all. Maybe it doesn't matter. And infinite number of maybes, with an infinite number of truths in each. Maybe. I don't happen to believe in a Supreme Being. However, I DO think we should stop killing each other over something we don't know about. Would you kill someone who doesn't believe in Black Holes, or who had a different idea about what a Theoretical Particle is? I'm not normally one to say who is right and who is wrong, but I think most of us can agree that violence in the name of a Supreme Being, who is supposed to be kind and forgiving, according to most world religeons, is not a good thing for any of the parties involved. The powers of the world used their God as their sword, instead of the shield their God was supposed to be. They killed in the name of the one who was supposed to save them. How is that right? How could The Almighty Is let that happen? Who knows? God moves in mysterious ways, according to some. Rock on, and Keep the Faith 010102 ... kx21 Given that GOD has Nothing and can't own anything, even a mote of dust. Do you wish to be God or want to become GOD? 010102 ... god i'm going to b.p.a. to get a beer 010102 ... PinkSnowStorm Quiggz's scapula is god..hehehehe..: ) 010106 ... god yes it is 010106 ... Bell R What if God smoked cannibus? 010116 ... you know me ::sigh:: i got depressed reading all of these... (i was depressed already, but that's not the point) i feel sorry for all of you who believe there is not a God or that He is only out there to get you- all He wants to do is love you- and it's US who keep getting in the way. He gave us the choices, and reading all of this, (i know He already has) it broke my heart- and i just can't understand how you can all think "how can bad things happen to good people?" i have a better question: how much worse could it have been? how much did He prevent from happening? i've been through a LOT of bad stuff in my life- i was raped when i was just a little girl more than once- i grew up in a house where my mom didn't even like me- i have a lot of medical problems- and yet, though it was all terrible, though i wish i could make it go away, at least i have Him to turn to even if nobody else is there. and i only wish i could share that kind of hope with all of you- but it's up to you- your choice. but, i can do something, and i will as often as i can: i'll pray for you guys~ 010116 ... kx21 *** Breaking News *** GOD is the Layman's terms for The Creator or Inventor of U, the UNIVERSE, who created U from NOTHING, with its limitless POWER, i.e. POWER of Creativity. You may refer to * In_Search_of_Nothing for some new findings about GOD and your Ancestors and its relationships with you. It is always good not to depress or SHIT on Someone, in particular GOD UNLESS you got very compulsive and irresistible reason(s) for doing that. 010117 ... god please don't shit on me! 010117 ... socrates "you know me"::: arrogantly put; what an open mind you have... tis the blind recruiting the blind 010117 ... god yeh. follow me. 010117 ... kx21 Thank God/goodness/heaven(s) for creating some stars in my MIND. Something must be wrong somewhere. And something must be changed, improved or revised,..., or in the worst scenario, put_to_ DEATH or recreated from NOTHING... It should be read as *** It is always good not to depress or SHIT on Someone, in particular GOD UNLESS you got Pretty good, probably new shit(s) and Very compulsive and irresistible reason(s) for doing that. *** Is this acceptable to ALL? 010117 ... jase or not, who knows? I do, God is, after all all that is is part of God and God is all that is. Isn't he? I mean the mere intention of God creates worlds, nay universes of light, and light is the revealer of all. Who knows/I do 010119 ... Colleen Life, the one question that no one can answer. Death, The single concept in this world that everyone just happens to be terrified of. So we hear a story of this so called god and put all of our energy into this one belief so that we dont have to be scared anymore. Instead of being afraid, we are living a lie. People cannot cope with the fact that some questions just dont have answers. Society is based on fear. If children dont go to school, they are afraid that they will be in trouble with their parents, people dont go around killing each other, in fear that they are going to be arrested, just like the people who go to church, in fear that they will be, "damned to hell," if they dont, as if they HAVE to believe in this concept, because if they dont, they will suffer some sort of terrible fate, oh, and it doesnt hurt to go anyway, even if its all a bunch of bullshit, she can just show up and it will all be fine. That way we dont have to face things on our own, we can just be content knowing that we have some sort of scape goat at all times. 010120 ... god hi colleen. how are you? i think you're cool. 010121 ... kx21 Something must be wrong somewhere. And something must be changed, improved or revised,..., or in the worst scenario, put_to_DEATH or recreated from NOTHING... It should be read as *** It is always good not to depress or SHIT on SOMEONE, in particular God UNLESS YOU got Pretty good, probably new shit(s) and Very compulsive and irresistible reason(s) for doing that; AND YOU don't affraid to_put_to_death by SOMEONE... *** Given that Nobody is not possible to please Everybody, it seems that SHITTING is the way of life for Everybody... 010122 ... kx21 It should be read as *** It is always good not to depress or SHIT on SOMEONE, in particular God UNLESS YOU got Pretty good, probably new shit(s) and Very compulsive and irresistible reason(s) for doing that; AND YOU don't afraid to_put_to_death by SOMEONE... *** Given that Nobody is able to please Everybody, it seems that SHITTING is the way of life for Everybody... 010122 010122 ... god can i get a t-shirt with that on it? 010122 ... JizNOLA Okay people, that's it. I will now explain it to you all. First, my disclaimer: I mean in no way to offend or put down anyone with different or opposing beliefs. Good for you all. However, here's how it is. God is not there. This is not because of the existence of the slightest or greatest evils that make life a less than perfect experience. It is because people who have trouble coping with the imperfections in life have to give themselves something to make them feel better about the whole thing. Example: someone's mother is killed, it's okay, she's in a better place now and her killer will suffer an eternity in hell. Wow, that someone feels better now. It is also a comfort to those who would rather have a quick and easy answer to the infinite amount of "why" and "how" questions that clutter our brains about life. Example: how did the world begin? God made it. why are we here? to serve God so we can go to heaven. Heaven. Another comforting thought. It would really suck if, after we die, we just lay six feet under to be eaten by worms. But according to God, that's okay because people do not exist solely in their physical bodies, it's their souls that matter and their souls go to heaven. Well, good, now we