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reenz hitler. should. die. 020520
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~gez~ he is dead you weirdo. god where you been for the last 56 years, or however many years it was since you made that post. or did you make that post before hitler died... *ponders* 020824
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~gez~ he is dead you weirdo. god where you been for the last 56 years, or however many years it was since you made that post. or did you make that post before hitler died 020824
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thefriendofthegirlwiththeboyfriendwiththedrugaddic springtime for hitler and germay....good song! it's just not fair how he gets the good songs..ya know? 020825
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fdafda Died. Dead. Suicide. 030629
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/anon "if jimmy cracked corn and no one cares then why is there a song about him?"

"if gays dont reproduce then why are there so many of them?"
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User24
preparing for a flamewar
hitler wasn't really so bad. He promise Germany that he'd get them out of the depression, and he did - in record time, I think in years to come, he'll be seen as a martyr, one who came before his time. Sure it's horrible for us to think of the perfect race, but only because we wouldn't be part of it - imagine the benefits, less disease, world government, no war, stable economy, free market trading, it's a utopia, or rather, from our point of view, a dystopia.

And before -anyone- mentions concentration camps, I know. I'm just saying that the ideas behind what he was trying to do were pretty sound - he went about executing them in the wrong way, if he'd been a little more subtle, he may well have suceeded.
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bird(flaming)mad sure, he was a genocidal fascist butcher who surrounded himself with lackeys and lapdogs, but hey, he made the trains run on time, right?

i'm sure he was great fun at parties too, but it is awfully hard to overlook that whole twelve million Jews, Gypsies, gays, and whoever else found themselves waking up on the wrong end of the Reich, oh, and i guess that whole invading or attempting to invade the rest of europe and russia, the book burnings in the Reichstag and the Blitzkrieg were all just a big misunderstanding, no?

all of that economic recovery would have been for nothing once he ran out of places to conquer, as it appears that it was a war-fueled economy...

somehow i doubt that anything will come along exculpatory enough to re-cast him in some rose-coloured light as a misunderstood and underappreciated visonary

there just isn't enough whitewash to hide all that blood.
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User24 i know, i know, I'm not trying to say that he was good guy or anything, but it's interesting to look at what he was trying to acheive becuase I think that the way society is heading is not too far removed from what he wanted, and I don't think that presents a very promising future, we're moving towards mass extermination of 'dissidents' and 'infidels', and a world government is just around the corner - it's easy to say he was just an evil man, but I want to look deeper and try to understand his viewpoint, I think that by looking at that, we can understand what's going on today..

I didn't mean to sound like I was sticking up for him, but I did sound like I was, sorry.
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User24 I was trying to make people see that that's almost whats going on now. 030630
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people need to think about this. though I didn't do it very well, looking back..

I agree with what you said, please just ignore the first comment, it was poorly written and open to misinterpretation.

I think that what hitler did was awful, but I'm just shocked that we're repeating it again and again and this time, we believe we're so right, that the enemy is pure evil, no matter what the evidence against it is, and there's no-one more powerful than the people who are doing it, no-one to come in and stop us. Like the nazis, we beleive that all Arabs/Iraqis/Muslims/whoever-it-is-this-week are against our moral values, and that we are ridding the world of some disgusting disease, but all we're doing to creating more struggle, more hatred, more poverty, is there anything good that's come since sept 11? Where exactly is this war on terrorism leading us? what are the objetives, and when is the godawful thing going to end?
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... and besides, he -did- make the trains run on time, gotta give him that.. 030630
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silentbob Even hitler had a girlfriend 030630
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megan my social studies teacher told us Hitler didn't have a left testicle.
and he did have a girlfriend named eva braun who was not a part of the perfect race.
and he experimented on twins because he thought they could read each other's minds.
and that made my social studies teacher put me in the corner because i disputed her ideas that twins can read each other's minds because i have a twin.
and it made her crazy because people put mustard on her door.
and she was fired because my mom complained.
and it was sort of embarrassing.
but i was glad she cared about me enough to do it.
and i now will always remember hitler didn't have a left testicle.
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blahblahblah he would have been fine if he hadn't been a psycho. 030701
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delial "You're not my dad, you're Hitler!"

that line makes me laugh
every
damn
time

mst3k 3
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silentbob what one is that from??? 030701
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silentbob the number of my question marks suggests the urgency of my desire to know!!!!!!! 030701
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p2 mike nelson in
the brain that wouldn't die
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p2 or more specifically
mystery science theater 3000
while watching
the brain that wouldn't die
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crimson "Spring Time for Hitler" the musical. 030916
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celestias shadow hitler was an insane homicidal maniac.

but he was possibly the greatest public speaker ever. i think it would have been extremely educational to see him speak, to see how he manipulated all those people so perfectly. it must have been amazing.

then again, he did nearly kill my family.
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Sam Vaknin Hitler and Nazism are often portrayed as an apocalyptic and seismic break with European history. Yet the truth is that they were the culmination and reification of European history in the 19th century. Europe's annals of colonialism have prepared it for the range of phenomena associated with the Nazi regime - from industrial murder to racial theories, from slave labour to the forcible annexation of territory.

Germany was a colonial power no different to murderous Belgium or Britain. What set it apart is that it directed its colonial attentions at the heartland of Europe - rather than at Africa or Asia. Both World Wars were colonial wars fought on European soil. Moreover, Nazi Germany innovated by applying prevailing racial theories (usually reserved to non-whites) to the white race itself. It started with the Jews - a non-controversial proposition - but then expanded them to include "east European" whites, such as the Poles and the Russians.

Germany was not alone in its malignant nationalism. The far right in France was as pernicious. Nazism - and Fascism - were world ideologies, adopted enthusiastically in places as diverse as Iraq, Egypt, Norway, Latin America, and Britain. At the end of the 1930's, liberal capitalism, communism, and fascism (and its mutations) were locked in mortal battle of ideologies. Hitler's mistake was to delusionally believe in the affinity between capitalism and Nazism - an affinity enhanced, to his mind, by Germany's corporatism and by the existence of a common enemy: global communism.

Colonialism always had discernible religious overtones and often collaborated with missionary religion. "The White Man's burden" of civilizing the "savages" was widely perceived as ordained by God. The church was the extension of the colonial power's army and trading companies.

It is no wonder that Hitler's lebensraum colonial movement - Nazism - possessed all the hallmarks of an institutional religion: priesthood, rites, rituals, temples, worship, catechism, mythology. Hitler was this religion's ascetic saint. He monastically denied himself earthly pleasures (or so he claimed) in order to be able to dedicate himself fully to his calling. Hitler was a monstrously inverted Jesus, sacrificing his life and denying himself so that (Aryan) humanity should benefit. By surpassing and suppressing his humanity, Hitler became a distorted version of Nietzsche's "superman".

But being a-human or super-human also means being a-sexual and a-moral. In this restricted sense, Hitler was a post-modernist and a moral relativist. He projected to the masses an androgynous figure and enhanced it by fostering the adoration of nudity and all things "natural". But what Nazism referred to as "nature" was not natural at all.

It was an aesthetic of decadence and evil (though it was not perceived this way by the Nazis), carefully orchestrated, and artificial. Nazism was about reproduced copies, not about originals. It was about the manipulation of symbols - not about veritable atavism.

In short: Nazism was about theatre, not about life. To enjoy the spectacle (and be subsumed by it), Nazism demanded the suspension of judgment, depersonalization, and de-realization. Catharsis was tantamount, in Nazi dramaturgy, to self-annulment. Nazism was nihilistic not only operationally, or ideologically. Its very language and narratives were nihilistic. Nazism was conspicuous nihilism - and Hitler served as a role model, annihilating Hitler the Man, only to re-appear as Hitler the stychia.

What was the role of the Jews in all this?

Nazism posed as a rebellion against the "old ways" - against the hegemonic culture, the upper classes, the established religions, the superpowers, the European order. The Nazis borrowed the Leninist vocabulary and assimilated it effectively. Hitler and the Nazis were an adolescent movement, a reaction to narcissistic injuries inflicted upon a narcissistic (and rather psychopathic) toddler nation-state. Hitler himself was a malignant narcissist, as Fromm correctly noted.

The Jews constituted a perfect, easily identifiable, embodiment of all that was "wrong" with Europe. They were an old nation, they were eerily disembodied (without a territory), they were cosmopolitan, they were part of the establishment, they were "decadent", they were hated on religious and socio-economic grounds (see Goldhagen's "Hitler's Willing Executioners"), they were different, they were narcissistic (felt and acted as morally superior), they were everywhere, they were defenseless, they were credulous, they were adaptable (and thus could be co-opted to collaborate in their own destruction). They were the perfect hated father figure and parricide was in fashion.

This is precisely the source of the fascination with Hitler. He was an inverted human. His unconscious was his conscious. He acted out our most repressed drives, fantasies, and wishes. He provides us with a glimpse of the horrors that lie beneath the veneer, the barbarians at our personal gates, and what it was like before we invented civilization. Hitler forced us all through a time warp and many did not emerge. He was not the devil. He was one of us. He was what Arendt aptly called the banality of evil. Just an ordinary, mentally disturbed, failure, a member of a mentally disturbed and failing nation, who lived through disturbed and failing times. He was the perfect mirror, a channel, a voice, and the very depth of our souls.
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Lucy The Aryan race reminds me of Barbie. 040208
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"what it was like before we invented civilization."? 040209
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Nick R Womean Hitler is an anagram of Mother In Law 040609
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Jess I knew you were going to put that!

P.S. Don't hate me fellow blatherers, but I'd say this guy had the right idea just chanelled it in the wrong direction!
Leave the Jews, take the scutters in the "showers"!
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acidshank hitler was amazing. i read his book mein kampf. what he said about propaganda was so good. its not so much he hated the Jews as much as it was nationalism. of course, he did hate them. of course. haha.
so amazing. i love it
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noname i do agree that hitler did bring Germany back from the ultimate depression and he was indeed a great inspirational speaker but how you can praise him that much after the evil he unleashed on the world amazes me. single minded destruction of entire races is not the way forward for a better world. we should learn to respect each other not to destroy. im sure that is he had had his way we would all be singing "Deutschland uber alles" but what is more precious than freedom. don't insult the rest of the world that helped to quash the unimaginable evil of this man by suggesting that he was right. you definitely cannot hide that much blood behind a veil of white. 041204
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jane if you could go back in time and kill hitler, knowing what would happen if you didn't, would you? 041204
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tr you cannot change the past and think that the future would be better with your changing...
ever watched butterfly effect?
so i would say i wouldn't kill him, for I do not know what would happen if I would kill him...
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U.S. Rumsfeld compares al-Zarqawi to Hitler in Ft. Bragg speech Kansas City Star


Rumsfeld likens al_Qaeda chief to Hitler
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JP Hitler made speaches fight facsism dont make speaches 070124
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stork daddy i think i would go back in time and kill him. i can't really imagine things going too much worse. 070124
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They call me Truth For hundreds of years white men treated other races as if they were inferior. They enslaved blacks. Almost wiped out Indians, took away their culture and their land. Segregated and discriminated against minorities. And what was there reason. They felt what they were doing was right. They felt they were "saving" the savages and pagans and they successful brainwashed many into thinking so also. They used their God and their own superiority complex to justify the destruction of families and tribes and people's culture and heritage. Is this very different than Hitler?

Look, I am not saying that Hitler was a great guy. I am not saying that the Anglo Saxon dream caused more harm than good. I am saying that Hitler is a glimpse of us. He shows us what we are capable of doing with our hate and prejudice and misconceived notions of right and wrong.

Let's be honest, we all justify the acts we do and since our whole perspective is based on right and wrong we justify things as such.

Just like Jesus showed us the love that man can give to man so did Hitler show us the hate that we can give as well?

And now everyone wants to take the moral high ground because they think that he went too far. This superior race shit has been spouted for centuries if not millenniums. Hitler just showed you where such ideas would lead.

Do you think people weren’t aware of this, people being slaughtered by the millions? How much millions suffered before he was finally stopped. The world stood by and watched this happen just like the world stood by and watched the genocide in Rwanda.

With the utmost love and honesty I rebuke the notion that Hitler was so evil. When will the hatred end? When will we stop pointing fingers and look at ourselves? When will we stop lying to ourselves and pretending that we even have the right to judge others?

But hey, maybe we might get somewhere by spreading more of what we have been spreading since the beginning of our existence.

Maybe we might find love through hate.
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. It is also important to note that nearly every people of this earth at one point considered itself superior to its neighbors and carried out atrocities against them. Non-whites are not exempt from this. Nor is the track record of whites really any worse... not that this justifies atrocities, I'm only saying that if one is to generalize about the worst offenders, the demographic of choice should be "Men" and not "whites". C'mon, men, you're still doing it. STOP PLEASE. 070125
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They call me Truth The white thing was an example. One of the most well known examples. It is important to note that the events in Rwanda, although involving indirectly the effects of colonialism, were commited basically by blacks.

I do understand you thinking that my argument was towards whites but if you look closer you will see that my argument was about people in general.

What bothers me, is not your slight misinterpretation of what i was saying but rather annoying urge that pushes me to clarify my argument. But now that I have I am like a crack addict that has just got his fix. I am at peace now that i have justified my argument mainly for egotistic purposes.
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Pazma Satan with a moustache 070514
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They call me Truth This is one of the older blaths that i have blathed under. I thought i should revisit it to se what was said. Hmmm...i havent changed much, still feel that way, in fact, i feel that way moreso.

The things that happen in the world are nothing more than a reflection of what we put into this world, the thoughts, the ideas, the hate, the harm, the pain, and the ignorance. We reflect ourselves through events. Will we learn from them or continue to put off the responsibility?
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hsg our perception of events also is a reflection.

on some level.. if there is such a thing as this world being the net effect of all sums of consciousness then maybe in the darkest parts of ourselves even the deepest monsters lurk.
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