benefit Q there's only one thing i can think of, and i do that a lot, that i ever do for the benefit of exactly 2, including among them me; that is not math, it's more like ... well, there's not room enough in a billion original blathes to even begin to describe it when it is worth trying to describe; besides, the probability is very low i'd ever do it for you (snarky_freak), even assuming your structure and orienation be compatible with mine; so here's your answers, for the benefit of all: 1 (a) 0.36 (b) 29 (c) 460.0 (d) 1250 (e) 0.00 2 a) 300 b) 10 c) 5 d) 4000 e) 200 3 a) 133 degrees b) 77 degrees 4 a) 2-fold, 4 lines b) 2-fold, 2 lines c) 4-fold, 4 lines d) impossible to answer - "star" is ambiguous enjoy :-) 000125 ... camille what your words are to me 000125 what's it to you? who go blather from