witch not really stichery 000106 ... marjorie i thought i saw a witch once which startled me so i followed the witch. i lost sight of the witch only once. i had to yell, "which way did the witch go?" and then a woman hit me with a frozen chicken and said, "that which you think is a witch is not really a with at all, but my husband. it just goes to show you how ugly people can be. 000124 ... Zoe isn't a witch just someone who practises the wiccan religion? if so, then my friend is a witch. it's actually a pretty cool religion. 000718 ... flame-retardant grendel we're not all wiccans i guess if i had a religion, per se, i would list it as "other/various pagan" on any documents that asked me to specify either way, if this was 350 years ago some assbite would still be trying to barbecue me over the matter 000718 ... j_blue i went to school in davis. this was a school with a lot of different kinds of people. most notably, what i called the witch girls. not organized or anything, and they didnt even call themselves witches, but i think they were. they talked to animals, and they talked to me. and they understood us both. you could tell they had something... 001124 ... Eclectic Wiccan "Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill: An ye harm none, do what ye will" "Bide the Wiccan laws we must, in perfect love and perfect trust..." 001124 ... twitch Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. 001124 ... gozzy mr. crowley 001124 ... lovers lament since no one was up front enough to bring up a valid point, most Wiccans disdain the word "witch". Wiccans are not witches or warlocks. Both terms are considered derogatory, and not often used by true Wiccans or, in general, followers of "the craft". i myself am not Wiccan, but follow most of their belief systems. I am not anything as far as religion goes. I am my own religion. 001125 ... sephiroht Something witchy this way comes. Let's admit it. Anybody can call themselves a witch, but the term witch can be very eclectic. Wicca has gained recognition as a religion in several major countries including the US. Long live freedom of religion. 001125 ... Rhin Wicca (Neopagan) - a reconstructed aboriginal religion, of the ancient Celts. It is barely 50 years old. Witch/Witchcraft has so many negative meanings (at least 13), so use those terms, only if carefully predefined. Some Wiccans consider themselves to be witches. However, not all witches are Wiccan. Some Wiccans have abandoned the term. They feel it as contracted such a negative meaning, over the centuries, that it cannot possibly be salvaged. Some still use the term, as they see this, as abandoning the memory of the deaths of hundreds of thousands, of innocents, during the Christian "burning times". Contrary to many Christian beliefs, Wicca is not a satanic cult, voodoo, or related to the Druid's, to name a few. True Wiccans do not practice negatively, as they must abide by The Wiccan Rede, and the Law of Three. Although I would not label myself as a "true" Wiccan, I have studied the religion, and found it to be quite interesting, and most definitely, one of the most, if not the most, mis-understood of religions. 001125 ... misstree here's where i piss some people off: yes, some wiccans like to be called witches, and others will shoot you dirty looks and get all pretentious on you if you do. either way, it's a word, it has no bearing to what someone is: i could be a christian fundamentalist and call myself a witch and it wouldn't change my beliefs. the neo-pagan movements are becoming so splintered that it's becoming a pissing contest almost as bad as the "my god has a bigger dick than your god" arguments that started the xian holy wars, forgetting the original goal of finding a path that is right for the person, resulting in the overwhelming number of "miscellaneous pagans." either way, concern yourself more with spirituality than labels or other people's views of you. don't take yerself so damn seriously. hail eris. ;) 001126 ... envenomed left_hand_path 001126 ... nocturnal I wish I was a witch, always kinda been a dream of mine. When I was born, my mom says I had two of the three signs of being a witch. well, the signs they used back in the day when they killed people for that kinda stuff. I would have been one of those people they killed. 010307 ... Shugarhi I happen to be Wiccan, but that doesn't make me a witch. I'm kind of glad that people at school don't criticize me for my beliefs, though they poke fun. In a way, I wish they did criticize me and ostracize me. 010511 ... Tiffa Note to lover's lament: Actually it's a term we use for each other, as anyone (male/female) who practises the religion. I am a witch. Its not a bad thing. Im not a magician, or a sorceress. I'm a witch, Im wiccan/neo-pagan and i practise green magick. Yes we do use it to term ourselves, but only if you are comfortable with the term. 010801 ... Tiffa btw- Rhin i should have read your post first. you're perfectly right and obviously said it better than i did. 010801 ... sabbie "take a look in the mirror when you go home tonight. would they have burned you?" a really cool line from a really dull play i saw last year. 020101 ... hey now! sometimes i wish i was a witch like the ones in the harry potter books. or like in bewitched (the tv show). itd be cool to be able to wiggle your nose and have almost anything you wanted. 020101 ... kerry i watched the Craft with some friends a couple nights ago. it was alright. i'd like to be a witch if i didn't have someone trying to kill me all the time. 020101 ... wiccan_witch I have been a witch for 8 years now. I don't have a green face and a long, pointy nose with a ugly mole . I dont ride on brooms in the night, or cook bats and dog's feet or wear a long black tattered dress. I do spells and live my life day by day with no intent of on harm of anyone. I love the earth and I'm learning to love myself as each day passes. I am just like anyone else, but with a different path "religion". Please, Mom and Dad... please society... respect me and accept me for who I am. 020529 ... ms money looking through distorted lenses upon the world seeking truth and harmony. Yet they only see the distorted image, and confuse it for the truth. The perceptions they encounter are similar to nature but the faith they are pursuing will abandon them later. 020530 ... somedaysam I'm sorry, but I know some *true* Wiccans and they use the term Witch. The reason the term carries derisive connotations is from...never mind THAT one. I don't want to get into a holy war. But, I am Wiccan and I, myself use the term witch. I think we use the term though, when dealing with cowans. I have studied Wicca/Paganism for the past 12 years, and I have been a practising Wiccan for the last three, so you see, it wasn't something I just jumped into. 020531 ... somedaysam btw, marjorie, i liked your blathe! 020531 ... phil twitch 020531 ... super monkey robot team hyperforce go! i just about laughed myself senseless reading these blathes. everyone getting all twitchy ab out being called a witch and being all respect me. that's hilarious. you're real respectable when youre whining about meaningless words from the mouths of meaningless people. grow up. people will call you what they want. freedom of speech. thats that 1st amendment that gave you your freedom of religion. 050627 ... [:T_o_x_i_c___C_y_b_o_r_g:] THANK YOU, MISSTREE!!!!!!!!!!! 061116 ... mr song WITCH! And yes, just because I am a guy, I am still a witch. I am not, nor do I like to be called a wizard or a warlock or anything of the sort! Just to let some people know the meaning of a warlock is "oath breaker" , and that is definatly not what I am !! I do not worship Satan; I am not interested in Satan . Satan was invented by the Christians. Satanism is a form of Christianity . I am not a Christian . I don't go to church on Sunday . Jesus is NOT my savior. He was simply a holy man who lived 2,000 years ago . I am not afraid of going to Hell because I don't believe in Hell any more than I believe in Satan . I believe in reincarnation; that I will come back to this world or another and live out another life . I am not evil. Telling people I am a "good witch" or asking me if I am a good witch implies that there are evil witches. There are evil people in the world and there are people who chose to work with the forces of nature in a way that harms others; those people are NOT witches. The central law of being a witch is: "if it harms none, do as you will." Please don't ask me about sacrificing cats or desecrating churches. I love my cats ! And I don't go into churches or synagogues unless a friend from that religion invites me to some special occasion . And if I DO enter a church, I am not struck by lightning. If a Christian or a Jew or a Buddhist came to a pagan ritual, our gods would not strike them dead either . Isn't that something to think about ? Wearing a pentacle is no different than wearing a cross, crucifix, or Star of David . If you want me to take off the symbol of MY religion (and Wicca is a religion, protected by the same First Amendment rights as other religions) because it's offensive, you need to make everyone of every religion do that . The five points of the star signify the four elements of Earth, Air, Fire & Water, and the fifth point is Spirit; encircled by the World. How that can offend anyone boggles my little pagan mind . An image of a tortured, dying man is more offensive, yet thousands of people openly wear crucifixes every day . Please don't ask me if I'm in a "coven" in that half-horrified, half-fascinated tone of voice . If I want to talk about my coven, I will bring it up . If I am a solitary practitioner, I have no coven to discuss. In any case, our rituals have candles, food, drink, poetry, dancing... yes, there is a knife but it only cuts the air, not anyone's flesh . I don't drink blood. I am not some kind of vampire. I wear black because it keeps negativity away and to tell the truth...it looks better on me than pink, orange and purple polka dots! If you want to ask me something related to MY religion, ask me when the next full moon is. Or the next blue moon Or what a blue moon IS! Ask me about herbs. Crystals, Healing, Even ask me to make you a love potion. I don't cast spells on other people and I won't cast a spell on you to make you prettier, thinner, more desirable. I won't cast a spell on your quarry to make him/her love you. Trust me, you don't want that, you don't want the Karma that involves and neither do I! That's a form of manipulation, taking away someone's power, infringing on their free will. Not nice at all. I also won't cast a binding spell to make someone STOP doing something to you. Spell work is about co-creation. A witch works with universal energy, with the gods, to tilt the engine of probability somewhat. Need money? Don't try to ensorcel your boss to give you a raise. Simply ask the universe to increase the flow of abundance in your direction. That infringes on NO ONE's free will. Giving me a book about the Burning Times is like giving a book on The Holocaust to a Jewish person. It's not funny and is rude! Yes, I do go to Salem, but not because any of those poor executed people were witches(the jury is still out on some of them), but because there's cool pagan shops there. If there were cool pagan shops in a town called East Cowflop, I'd go there as well! Don't try to make me ashamed of who I worship and what I am. Please don't try to convert me or "save" me. Don't throw holy water on me. Don't leave little pamphlets on my desk or windshield. I don't need to be saved. Witches are proud of the fact that we don't recruit people to become witches. We simply ARE and those around us see how we think, how we act and our inner peace and only when someone says "how do I become a witch ?" do we take them into the fold with us . I will NEVER leave a religious tract with anyone. I don't have one, unless you count this letter. I am not asking you to convert. I am only asking you to please understand. If you don't want to understand, well then just leave me alone . 070613 ... . . 070618 ... Blather Patroll Mr. Song, Do you attend renaissance fairs and have lots of pewter dragons in your apartment? Just wondering. 070619 ... mr song i don't live in an apartment. i live in a house surrounded by trees. i raise a family. yes ! i do attend ren fares as well as other types of festivals, shows concerts, nightclub events or whatever's worth visiting. my home decor contains SOME dragons, mostly wood carving and one pewter one. 070619 ... ioata patrol poop 070630 ... glue stick i've gone out with several girls who are or think they are witches. for some reason these people are attracted to me or i am attracted to them without even knowing about it. it's weird. the first girl i dated thought she was a witch, she was in a witch club or something where they would get together on certain nights and say strange incantations and get drunk and dress in black. i attended one of these things and i actually thought it was very interesting. then the weird shit came. she thought she met with her friends in dreams and they went to nightclubs and each other's blood..now i am a pretty open minded guy and even this kind of crazy shit i can tolerate or understand - i mean some of us have a very vivid imagination and that's cool and in some cases it should even be encouraged. but, then this girl thought that she could bring her little friends back from her dreams, two vampires actually. that's where i draw the line. like are you on some fucking psychedelics you're not sharing with me or what? anyhow, it just got to the point where one of the "vampires" followed her around, everywhere. we'd be in the room watching tv or talking and then she'd drift off and start talking to fucking dracula or telling not to do that or laugh. she freaked me out and i really tried to be as understanding as possible but i think the poor little girl was out of her fucking mind. so i dumped her and dated her friend. she too thought was witch but as time passed she confessed the whole vampire thing was in their minds, except that my former girlfriend did actually believed it. now don't get me wrong here. i do sympathize with her and yes maybe she was disturbed and what not. in the end she became a slut, got pregnant and lives with her mom. another girl i dated confessed to me she was a witch. now this girl did actually proved to me she had some type of abilities. it was strange and fascinating. for example she'd know if i was in trouble even if she was in a different country. she'd call me and ask if everything was alright when there was absolutely no way of knowing. perhaps our energies were so interconnected, i don't know. if i kept something from her, she'd have a dream about it. she showed me my aura for the first time. it was unbelievable. this girl didn't belong to any group of witches or did rituals on full moons or any of that shit, she was just 'normal' and very special. i suppose magic is as possible as anything else in this complex and strange world, however i know there special people who are somewhat more connected to the world's natural energy than others and that there are little idiots running around wishing they were more special then they are. 070701 ... Cat lady Glue stick: Anyone can practice witch craft, if studied and used properly without harming anyone. sounds like the first one you were talking about called herself a witch without studying and practicing it properly. Yes, humans can develope a psychic connection to each other, witch or not. rituals on an esbat such as a full moon or a sabbat is part of religious traditions. it's not typically a "witch thing" but mostly pagan. It's just like a prayer to the God's and Goddesses as do the and their is nothing "wierd" about it. Mr song: Merry Meet! You surely know what you're talking about, I'm glad to hear from you! 070701 ... Cat lady I don't call myself a witch though I know much about it I'm actually a Druid 070701 ... swears the misfortune i know more druids than wiccans. why is that? 070703 what's it to you? who go blather from