pete echo the oldest and most successful virtual reality application to date 990702
trakie what? in this money obsessed world there is only one entry under money? unbeleivable. 991117
valis now, why'd you have to go and bring me down like that ...? 991208
trakie sorry valis. i was just amazed that it wasn't something everyone had a lot to say about. i guess this crowd is just more concerned with writing on words like suicide and sex. tis a good thing though, money really is not that important. 991225
Quintessensual Actually, my friend, the most blathed on word is not suicide, sex, sadness, or - as you astutely observed - that meaningless thing we call "money." Nope, the most blathed on word is...


Happy holidays to all of you wonderful people.
lion And a happy holidays to you.

I don't believe that it's an evil at all... after all...the bird needs two wings to fly...we the material, and, but of course, the misunderstood, and often misalligned, spiritual.

My bank account?


bane if you could swin in it, would you really want to? 000122
Wild Bill I wish I had some.
If I did,
Who knows where I would be today.

I doubt I would be here talking about it.
gregg money is some paper we agree is valuable, couldn't we have made the paper (at least!!) look valuable instead of that grimy green color, like maybe silver, or gold, and maybe put bjorks picture on it instead of some dead guys that are obsessed with getting shot in theaters or destroying the cherry rain tree forest? what kinda funky society do we have here on Earth? 000516
amorfus money is green energy 000517
grasshopper there are money-free worlds 000525
grasshopper everything is energy! 000525
grasshopper man i hate deja vu. 000525
skiblu I hate it.
I hate it bitterly.
...But I am a hypocrite and never object to having it
ubliss Knowledge 1 2 3

Knowledge (K) is Power (P).
K = P (1)

Time (T) is Money (M).
T = M (2)

P is equal to Effort(E) over Time (T)
P = E / T

(1) and (2): K = E / M (3)
(3): M = E / K (3.1)

Conclusion: With given Effort

Knowledge up, Money down ???
Money up, Knowlege down ???

Scientific Reason for Wise Men like
Bill Gates (Microsoft) and
Jerry Yang (Yahoo) to stop pursuing their further study...
FoxFire Burn the paper
Burn the curse
Burn your wallets
Burn your Purse

Kill the Man
who's brought this on
Murder the Welthy
Tax them to death
Get rid of it all...
and you'll have everything left!
JBauer "I don't want it, I just need it" -TOOL

It's not that big of a deal unless you don't have it... That's when things get rough.
kx21 "He who loses money loses much. He who loses a friend loses more. But he who loses faith loses all."
Henry H. Haskins
kx21 "Happiness is not in the mere possession of money; it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
twiggie i really don't care for it.
i want to live in an apartment, or a likkle house.
i was talking about it today with someone and she said she wanted money to go out and buy shoes and stuff, but she didn't want a lot of money.
i don't want the money it takes to be able to run out and buy shoes and clothes and beads and whatever else on a whim. just enough so i can do it once a awhile, if that. just enough so i can buy christmas presents for everyone and pay the rent.
*Ziima* Money is the 'epitome' of all evil. 'Tis the root of corruption and chaos these days... 010212
soph a savior to the unimaginative 010330
mmm i write "you are not a slave and i am not your master" on every bill i get... its my own form of social protest 010404
beorn lost in minds of time
living it grace at a killer pace
no wonder all is lost
BewareOfPenguin They say that money isn't everything. I believe it ranks right up there with oxygen. 010528
DannyH dirty rubbish which should be exchanged for fun at the first opportunity. 010528
ditto ummmm.. I can see a tree.
do you like trees?
DannyH They say money doesn't grow on trees. say yes it does, its made of paper. 010528
nocturnal actually, it's made of cotton. seriously, I'm not joking.

my personal take on dinero is that if you happen to have enough to share and someone is in need of some, neither party should have a problem with that excess being shared. I'm not talking socialism, here. but for example, sometimes I have more money than I know what to do with. sometimes my friends don't have enough to be able to do what they want. I say, here, take mine. I got nothing better to do with it. and sometimes they'll take it, but sometimes they will refuse. they give reasons like, I don't wanna have to worry about paying you back, or, that's your money...I shouldn't accept hand outs. that's crap. if I offer it, I mean it. if I had something in mind that I needed the money for, I wouldn't have offered it in the first place.
nobody respect,
but thats far too nice.
some people don't know how to take that.
what should they do about it?
VCell I'm always told that money can't buy happiness. Well, I've already tried poor and miserable. I'd like to give rich and miserable a shot! 010611
black-dyed gel product "Money can be exchanged for goods and services." ---Homer, "The Simpsons"
"Money is the root of all evil."

Can "money" be exchanged for "evil services"? Can "goods" be exchanged for "roots"? Can "for" be exchanged for "the"?

Have you ever seen someone receive a lot of checks for a birthday or some kind of celebration? Wouldn't it be funny in a cruel sort of way to burn the checks before they got to the bank? I always thought that paper was an odd thing to use as currency. Now half the time we don't even use that; we use imaginary numbers that live in the computers of banks and credit card companies. I think bartering would make things a little more interesting. I think the world should try that out for a week just for the hell of it. I'll give you three blades of grass for a pack of Shock Tarts.

The Dark Side Of The Moon - 1973

DARK SIDE OF THE MOON was a benchmark record. It turned the musical world on its ear with a hitherto unseen combination of sounds, and changed things considerably for Pink Floyd. The pyramid-like prism refracting the thin white light into a rainbow became synonymous with the band, as did the album, a collection of epics steeped in Roger Waters' lyrics of paranoia, alienation and schizophrenia.

For this project, Pink Floyd resurrected older and unfinished numbers, some of which came from the multitude of soundtracks the band members had previously worked on. The film "Zabriskie Point," a study of American materialism from a foreigner's perspective, provided "Us And Them" (originally titled "The Violence Sequence"). Waters rewrote "Breathe" after its appearance on his and avant-garde composer Ron Geesin's score for "The Body," a surreal medical documentary. To bring the songs into a clearer light, Floyd and their long-time engineer, Alan Parsons, used a multitude of sound effects--from stereophonically-projected footsteps and planes flying overhead ("On The Run") to a roomful of ringing clocks ("Time").
The band brought in female singers to sweeten the harmonies throughout the album. Gospel singer Clare Torry was given a solo, albeit lyric-less, turn on Richard Wright's "The Great Gig In The Sky," shrieking, sobbing and sighing in orgasmic waves. Floyd also enlisted Dick Parry's saxophone on "Us And Them" and "Money," which became the group's first American Top 40 hit. Further adding to the record's mystique, barely audible spoken passages were sprinkled throughout--a result of hours interviewing random Abbey Road occupants about their views on insanity, violence and death.

The combination of creative and technological concepts must have struck a nerve; DARK SIDE OF THE MOON remained on Billboard's albums chart for an astounding fourteen years. It made Pink Floyd a household name, elevating them to the level of the Rolling Stones and The Who in the rock pantheon. Maybe most important, DARK SIDE found Roger Waters for the first time using the group as a tool for his own concepts and personal views, foreshadowing conflicts that would come to a head in the band's future works.

Speak to Me Money
Breathe Us and Them
On the Run Any Colour You Like (Instrumental)
Time Brain Damage
Breathe - Reprise Eclipse
The Great Gig in the Sky (Instrumental)

Speak to Me (Instrumental)

"I've been mad for fucking years, absolutely years, been
over the edge for yonks, been working me buns off for bands..."
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the
most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even
if you're not mad..."


Breathe, breathe in the air
Don't be afraid to care
Leave but don't leave me
Look around and chose your own ground
For long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be
Run, run rabbit run
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to start another one
For long you live and high you fly
But only if you ride the tide
And balanced on the biggest wave
You race toward an early grave.


On the Run (Instrumental)

"Live for today, gone tomorrow, that's me, HaHaHaaaaaa!"


Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then the one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in the relative way, but you're older
And shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desparation in the English way
The time is gone the song is over, thought I'd something more to say


Breathe - Reprise

Home, home again
I like to be there when I can
When I come in cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells.


The Great Gig in the Sky (Instrumental)

"And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I
don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying?
There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime."
"I never said I was frightened of dying."


Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.
Money it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.
Money it's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit
I'm in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
Money it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
Money so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're
giving none away

"HuHuh! I was in the right!"
"Yes, absolutely in the right!"
"I certainly was in the right!"
"You was definitely in the right. That geezer was cruising for a bruising!"
"Why does anyone do anything?"
"I don't know, I was really drunk at the time!"
"I was just telling him, he couldn't get into number 2. He was asking
why he wasn't coming up on freely, after I was yelling and
screaming and telling him why he wasn't coming up on freely.
It came as a heavy blow, but we sorted the matter out"
Casey Everyone says you can't buy love, so you'll just have to rent it 010625
baby satan i got some love cheap on eBay. forty-eight cents. then i sold it to some homeless dude for eighty cents. i'm not sure what he did with it after that. 010625
Mushroomman at one time, our currency was backed by Gold.... now it's in stocks and banks and
credit and other investments

not too far off... cash will be phased out... and the machines will take more control over our lives than we could possibly imagine, i don't even want to try to imagine a chip implant that will replace all my cards, my wallet, my keys my cash...... and my humanity.
dougy why do i feel so much like shit when i have so much to the poor man on the street. why does this world value money so much? if you spend all your time making money, when your old your going to try to buy time to live. doesnt work mate.. 010904
Norm I'm very lucky. I wake up every morning and there's a wad of cash waiting for me on the kitchen table with a note explaining why my parents are in Puerto Rico, Jamaica, or maybe at the neighbours. My room is filled with money every where I look there is money right now. Money means nothing to me except I use it to buy drugs and booze. A lot of people owe me favors and they try to pay me in money, I like to make them think of something more creative to pay me in because I don't need anymore money. Money is stupid. 011108
sphinxradio i feel better when i don't have any to spend on myself. it might bring security, to an extent, but in me it also brings a sense of guilt, somehow. 011231
ClairE makes the world go round...that clinking clanking sound... 011231
kerry always in need of, always lacking, never having too much... sometimes i wish i had too much. 011231
shiva watch it. i am a cheapskate. 020101
pralines&cream Money makes me think of .... I_need_a_job ... because i so do. 020102
impatient virgin Pink_Floyd (word_association) 020102
ClairE Dude, it's in seven. I tried to put it into five the first time I heard it, and it_blew_my_mind. 020102
Tim? it's a drag 020102
Tim? it's a drag 020102
lexian In Canada
we call it
god i want to buy some cave paintings 020907
pink squint its a hit 020930
ryan bow down before the one you serve......... 021113
lyric-finisher you're going to get what you deserve. 021113
Nathan88 Money is not an adequate way to measure success... i truly believe success captivates your inner-self, whether or not you can prosper with what has been so generously given to you...individuality and uniqueness... not with what societies prolific influence says you should be, or strive to become...inadequacies of todays culture thriving on ignorance and greed...benevolent truths abrogated by wealth...inexplicable loneliness you cannot purchase true freinds, loyalty dangling from a stick just beyond grasp you fall, drowning in your self-proclaimed wealth 021204
Jelsol Money is more important than the things it can buy. 030804
HighYield money in sufficient quantities becomes unwieldy, an economic snag, a joke because as you try to spend it, the prices run from you like ashes scattered in the wind. 030823
TinyTits if you complain about it, you obviously don't have enough 030823
Isaac "Only merchants have money to waste, and what are they but parasites who create nothing, grow nothing, make nothing but feed off another's labour? Definitely *they* should walk, neh?" Quote from Shogun by James Clavell 030907
tori money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons 031115
cybersuperleni on the gold coast of australia sharks have eaten some people swimming in canals; these canals are like artificial rivers with sand banks like beaches. there are quite a few canals, with houses on either side, and some of the canals meet up with lakes and others with rivers or the broadwater which meets up with the ocean.
it is known by all that sharks are in the canals and well may eat you if you swim.
this not being sufficient to discourage people, the council is insituting a $50 dollar fine for those caught swimming in the canals.
i think this is a precious insight into human psychololgy. either the loss of $50 dollars is a fate worse than death, or minds can't grasp such abstract concepts as death while money with its simple numerical reward and exchange that they can understand.
cybersuperleni money is nothing. it has no value but that attributed to by those who accept it in exchange for goods.
that being so, it should be possible to just stop using it, i'd just go to the grocery store, take what i need, do my job every day, and not get paid...
of course there are the problems of incentive and is a great moderator and distributor.
wouldn't a world without money be nice though?
misstree a world where money was kept properly in persective would be nice. it's very useful, but people have allowed it to integrate past usefulness into obsession and destructive agent and yardstick for any sort of Value. 040112
hsg cosmic blood 040721
Lyrics Money_Money_money 040818
;) Dollars_and_Cents

7 Sep 2004 Latest headlines:
ยท Money from Iran Fuels Iraq Insurgency -Rumsfeld
Reuters - 14 minutes ago
An "amazing" newslink

US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld:-

"They have put people in there. They have put money in there," Rumsfeld said in an interview with The Washington Times. "By 'they,' I'm not going to say which element of the government or whether it's even known to the government.
But money has come in from Iran. People have come in from Iran."
highanddry I swore to myself once that money would never be at the top of my priority list. How the world changes when you're working your ass off, working overtime and a second job, and still barely scraping up enough money to pay for gas... or food. It's sad when you decide health insurance is frivolous. 050901
pete its sad when you CAN decide that health insurance is frivolous, instead of being part and parcel with your citizenship 050901
p2 it's not *magically* "part and parcel with your citizenship"
you pay for it through your taxes

so it boils down to
having a choice
or not

i'd rather have a choice

see: socialized_medicine
pete taxes go along with citizenship as a responsibility. healthcare is a benifit. i prefer knowing i'm insured than wondering what will happen if i break my leg playing soccer... 050901
p2 defining the terms
doesn't take away from the fact that
your socialized medicine
is paid for
by your taxes

you are paying for it
no matter what (aka no choice)

see: socialized_medicine

or continue with your
"if i keep my eyes closed tight enough
the problems don't exist."
hsg buys vowels. these can make your words moreasily understood. work three jobs. get educated. don't waste your education and resources on poor choices. out of 168 hrs in a week, surelyou can give half your time for God_Money. a measly 84 hrs/wk for 5 yrs. invest wisely. network with friends. you'll never have to work again. 061023
veyeba dont take a slice of my pie 070310
anouk I don't understand it.

Where is it going? What is it doing?
It is indecipherable. Unpredictable. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't.

It worries me a lot. I see other people worrying about it, talking about it, doing things with it, and that worries me too.

What is it? How does it work? How should I use it? How should I feel about it? How should it make me feel?

Is it evil? Is it fair?

I don't like it. I can't manage it.

We are not friends, money and I.
falling_alone i lost my paycheck.
calling work to say i lost it feels worse.
hsg now_go_kids_go 080714
tourist An Interesting Twist On Slavery
Where The Slave Is An Active Participant In Their Ensnarement.

And What Would You Do For These Gold Colored Shackles Today? Hmmmm?
fuffle Gold is worth more than slaves, slaves are 90% water! 080714
In_Bloom "I loved your Master perfectly
.I taught him all that he knew
.He was starving in some deep mystery
.Like a man who is sure what is true
.And I sent you to him with my guarantee
.I could teach him something new
.And I taught him how you would long
for me
.No matter what he said
.No matter what you'd do"
hee hee Adulterer! 080813
FUCK YOU everything is about money

idealism doesn't work with greed or some kind of cocky power, you keep your power and greed, i don't fucking want it.

and if you're one of those persons that thinks your time is more valuable than others because your knowledge is greater then why don't you build your own fucking house and pick your own fucking vegetables then.

oh yeah and continue to pray for rainbows whist your at it.
nr i am tired of being poor. 141013
tail-devouring snake universe, please continue to send me money in all good ways. i will receive, hold, and use money in all good ways, as i have a healthy relationship with money 141014
flowerock An indirect_tool
It buys things, opens opportunity and pathways, but that's all it does. I spend it mostly on food, transportation and debt from housing, sometimes medical care... but if society were a little more codependent and cooperative instead of artificially I dependent, we would need money less, and less money... if I knew better what I could eat in the environment around me and how to prepare and identify it and grow more foods then I am fed for my knowledge and work, if I can heal myself or feed a healer in return for healing... and so on...
But it's always more complicated than. Just "that". If I ate and grew food in this soil... would it be safe? Would other steal my harvest? Or would we clean the soil and work together?

My train of th_ought has come to a stop.

I am at work now, making money... for myself and for the company and the state and national government and whoever else all that tax money goes to... rent more bikes damnit!

I am working on improving my relationship with money. It is getting easier and flowing more effectively as it comes and goes. I try to spend it intentionally to help myself a d support those who I love and respect in this money game.
epitome of incomprehensibility I'm supposed to try and get in a job where I can make more of it. My brother's convinced he wants to do university out of province and my parents are retiring soon. I still owe one of them almost $3,000. But I started out owing $6,000, and it feels good to pass the halfway point as I did this week.

I think I told my friend, "Well, you could get by on $500 a week" given X, Y, and Z, but she looked at me a bit strangely. That won't send my brother anywhere, though. Also, I need to fix another silly tooth.

Some things you can do to cut costs. I don't have a phone. I don't do the makeup thing generally. But I'd rather have more money for what I want. Not "everything is about money" of course. That's just silly. But currency is like flowerock says, multiple uses, though it's not in a sense very real.

I just wish I could send an application that made sense so I could have more of a job. I could also use the more consistent schedule than just tutoring here or there. I don't mind doing more work. But the asking for a job part is the hardest. I would rather write almost anything else. Everybody's a bit selfish.
Manic Drive I will never sell my soul for all the money in the world. 141015
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