punk daxle To stand for what you believe, and to have thought about what you believe. To not care so much about what you look like that you spend hours getting dressed up (and yes, this includes extensive hair spiking and chain wearing). To realize that the majority of people going along with something does not make it right; to be willing to change what seems wrong. Punk! 990501 ... leslie music-- ideology-- fashion -- marketing ploy. Of course, this apparent cynic also believes in the definition above, too. 990527 ... drew it's fifteen, not blink 182... it's fugazi, not rancid... it's propagandhi, not green day... it's a mode of thought, not a form of music. 990527 ... Jeff @ Newdream Kind of a joke - I bet the guys in suits are really raking it in with all those clothing sales, though. "Fight the man, but make sure to do it in STYLE!" 990528 ... me. fight the system but youll never do it in cuz you pay too much for parsley pot. 990609 ... emsie Punk isn't simply a form of music. Punk is a way of life, a form of politics, a mode of dress. There are so many different punk bands out there. In my mind, the two main flaws of punk are the words "sellout" and "poseur". I hate when people in the scene think they're so above everyone that they can decide who is punk and who sold out. That's not fair, and who the hell do they think they are? "No one calls themself hip hop, but some call themself punk." 990610 ... emma "do you feel lucky, punk?" 990621 ... l Well, do ya? 990714 ... king kai what i would consider myself - sometimes i feel it slipping away - no cure for that like sinatra (one bad mofo) 000102 ... roxy oh please. 000208 ... BoofPixie so nervous. punker than thou. see and be seen. 000311 ... safety pin bird 1988 My shoplifted creepers and a pack of cloves hidden in my backpack my hair cut short in back and on the sides, a strip of hair dangling in my face in a mockery of the catholic_school imposed dress code, a flask of Jack D. stashed in the art room and a decorative web of razor marks on my arm. safety pins clamping my pantlegs ticht around my calves and ankles 2000 long black hair with copper streaks and an evil looking set of sideburns, decent shirt and tie and business card, shiny black shoes (shaped like creepers) a well stocked liquor cabinet, a pack of cloves in my shirt pocket, a few ear piercings ...and beneath the sleeves of my shirt, a decorative web of razor marks and a sex pistols CD in the computer at my desk 000520 ... birdmad and now, as then a long-standing contempt for hippy_crap 000520 ... punkrockgirl "We'll dress like Minnie Pearl, just you and me punk rock girl." 000521 ... grendel "she took me to her house to enjoy a sunday meal... her father took one look at me and he began to squeal" 000521 ... MollyGoLightly Punk rock girl give me a chance, let's go slam dance... 000521 ... Brad ah the dead milkmen 000521 ... Tiffa punk is me and anything i say goes punk is soemthing radical, hell hippies were punks but today our social punk world is turning cyber to quote one hell of a hot man: "Cyber punks are the true rebels" -Billy Idol- Gods i love that man....... 000525 ... WoNDERGIRL violet flowers for the punk rock queen a silent parenthetical 000525 ... alkdflksj joy darkside the dark side 000601 ... Rummy i am also this. im free-willed. i (inparticular) am anti government and politics, what ever i say about them it isnt gonna matter, so i dont participate. my hair is green, my hair is blue. my boyfriend is crazy, he really is. the president can kiss my ass, and then i would ask him "if this is such a free country, why cant we burn the flag?!" ive ponderd that for a while.... 000602 ... Rummy "i had a dream, that when i was in high school, that i attended the punk rawk academy" 000602 ... MollyGoLightly "Happy birthday, Ralph, I love you! Even though you are fucking dis-gus-ting" 000602 ... moonshine Zebra trucks. Too much booze. Bloody shows.Patches and plaid. a paradox. Protest. Clutterred store room in a movie theater. I saw you standing on main street in a tie. The very first time.4 suger cubes. Bouncing over fences,hiding in the shadows. Late night parties in a car garage off the coast. The day your mom found me in your closet..Will you remeber me? 000602 ... startfires johnny quest he thinks we're what? 001029 ... startfires mr_barbeque 001029 ... startfires mommy, i'm not an animal 001029 ... startfires i been runnin mondaytuesdaywednesdaythursdayfridaysaturdaysunday what have i done? 001029 ... daxle I tell my mom I make a punk rock kit for him for christmas or his birthday same day she days "I thought punk rock was dead" 001115 ... daxle fucking monkeys, I meant to say say not day. well probableee. I tell him don't wear wallet chains, don't let the tags stick out of your docs, it's not punk he says how do you know? I say I looked it up in the punk rock handbook 001115 ... j_blue blathering for my high punktress friend, dj_janie. (actually i think her name is now janie_venom) she has a radio show, the best punk show in the sacramento area, and broadcasts from www.kdvs.org 001116 ... kitty almost every one of my classmates claims they are punk. they inform the others, "Punk began in the seventies, not the 90's like everyone thinks." i go to art school so i guess that is the attitude to be expected from a bunch of recent high school graduates. 001117 ... silentbob Umm... maybe i'm shooting for the obvious here...but didn't the early punk uprisings start in the sixties? didn't it just kind of become popular in the 70's?? 001118 ... Glory Box is what my best friend is turning into. You live with the same anit-everything man for a while, and he turns you into himself. From solid black and shady greys to shock-blue streaks and clothing made out of stolen uniforms. She's a punk, through and through, but she's still my best girl. The hair makes no difference. 001126 ... kooter oi, oi , oi! 001208 ... brandon Racist people, public jerks. Ruthless thugs! 001208 ... j_blue and the antithesis 001208 ... ... nothing more than another meaningless word. 010121 ... silentbob it is not another meaningless word. its a word, like all other words, that has many various meanings and interpretations but it certainly isn't meaningless. it may be meaningless to you Mr. Triple Period man, but it certainly isn't meaningless to me. 010121 ... ... i never said it was meaningless to anyone other than me. this is my opinion, my view, not yours. you're probably just another fashion victim who watches mtv for the latest blink 182 videos. 010122 ... silentbob im sorry that you dont actually know me and that you assume i actually dress like a "punk" and that i watch all kinds of mtv and stuff. but if you actually knew me you'd know i'm not like that at all. And i wasn't attacking you in my response, you said it was just a meaningless word, and i said not to me, then you basically just repeated what i said. But what i want to know is why you made a personal attack on me? Not that someone who dresses like a stereotypical punk and watches mtv for blink videos is much of an attack, because i know with someone of your mental capacity you could come up with something more original...but i wasn't trying to start shit with you...so why are you with me? i just think its funny that you really have no idea what i'm like, but you assume since i said anything at all you thought i MUST be part of that generation who thinks punk is mxpx and blink182. you're such a thoughtful person, arent you. 010122 ... j_blue people who are hardcore to be hardcore suck respectable hardcore-ness is generated when someone is so into something, they dont notice they are hardcore, or they are willing to be hardcore, despite the social retardedness that ensues fashion_punks, therefore, suck people who criticize lack of hardcore in others suck i suck 010122 ... ... i like to pull people's strings. it's one of the few things that bring me pleasure in life. one of the other things is sleep. im about to get 12 hours of it before i go into work. work is so punk rock. don't mind me, really, don't. nobody else does. oh wait...yes they do. silly people. 010122 ... j_blue sleep_his_enviable 010122 ... silentbob but those strings are so silly, so very very silly please i want to be your friend 010122 ... Thyartshallshant I'm a punk. I'm not "punk". I'm A punk. 010122 ... god patti smith television richard hell and the voidoids lydia lunch sonic youth dead boys ramones johnny thunders 010123 ... ... silentbob. so when do we start being friends? 010124 ... silentbob Hmmm When you email me back? you got my letter, right? 010124 ... silentbob oh look at that you didnt leave your email address and all your blathes landed in someone who DID.. well why dont you email me then 010124 ... Sintina I wonder why Punky Brewster was called Punky? I mean, she was such a sweet little thing... compared to more recent punk strerotypes... I hated the theme song to Punky Brewster it used to get stuck in my head and drive me crazy. 010127 ... the boy with the thorn in his side Punk is just a style of music. It is not any one set of fixed ideals, it is not how you spike your hair, it is not a way of life, etc. If most punk music has anything in common ideologically, it would be that many punk groups espouse the virtues of being an individual. The only objection one would have to this definition would be that it seems to brush punk music off as JUST music (read: just trivial entertainment). Music, if taken seriously, can affect your life, it can be a reason for you to get out of bed in the morning...Punk is a style of music and has done those things for me since I was thirteen. 010228 ... silentbob if you hadnt explained yourself i would have been mad, but you done good, thats an excellent point, my son 010228 ... superslutstar so i hAve pinK hAir... who the FUCK cAres... the so-cAlled *pUnk* genErAtion is in yoUr mind... it'S in yoUr heArt... *pUnk* doEsn't meAn gOing agAinst the croWd becAuse it sEems rEbelioUs aNd cOol... *pUnk* doeSn't meAn lIstEning tO milLencolin aNd nOfx... *pUnk* doEsn't meAn fUcking shit Up at somE show... *pUnk* meAns bEing yoUrself... no mAtter who's wAtching... nO mAtter whO's listeNing... nO mAtter whAt otheR peoPle tHink of yoU... *pUnk* means lOvinG who yoU aRe enoUgh to rEspect yoUrself dEspiTe otHerS' opInions of yoU...... 010326 ... Chrisup It's over and has been for 15 years 010402 ... punk Punk died on April 15, 2001 - R.I.P. Joey Ramone 010420 ... MercynRe a drunken staggering slug; i feel like a broken rag doll laying in this gutter and i am so sick of all the nazi posers... 010427 ... *Colleen* just another steriotype 010427 ... *colleen* i mean Stereotype 010427 ... zarundin But who does my name belong to then? --Iggggyyyyyyyyy....... 010507 ... Glory Box Instead of "drunk punk" scrawled across my nails in electric blue nail polish, I opted for "drunk dyke" and outed myself to the whole party. 010507 ... el fagtastico When Blink-182 won best video we were watching it it our homes, wide-eyed as they ascended to the podium, reaching out hands to pull them back down. Fingers knock flat glass TV screen instead. In its wake some of us clung to old posters and ticket stubs, pledging devotion, faith in radio play. Some of us dug a tunnel underground, betrayed, taking solace in a purer world. Nothing gold can stay. I bought a CD by NOFX. New school. According to Kyle, this is real punk. 010511 ... claudia kill me before some moron gives me my big chance. And i end-up a poet/role model buried in france. i'm so high on pot and shit i think that i'm in ancient egypt. forgive me, seattle junkies don't speak for my generation 010511 ... James If you don't know what punk is, and you're reading this which you are, I know you are LOL, then you're not punk. see: Doesn't need to define yourself 010511 ... (for your nightmare) Crazier than GG, yet more PC than Ian Got colored teeth like Johnny Exudes a Vicious disposition His hair sticks out like Colins' did, he jumps Similar to Springa, yeah, he points his middle finga Not just a singer in the band Voted biggest asshole and role model of the year Got a face like Charles Bronson Straight outta Green Bay Wisconsin Not just a singer in the band He'll puke on you, he'll fuck your mom, he'll smoke while huffing gas He was the punkest mother fucker I ever did see Hell he was even more punk than me He should've been on the cover He should've been on the cover He should've been on the cover of Punk and Disorderly . 010513 ... Alexander Beetle What a waste of perfectly good anger. (Out of curiosity, what happens when NOFX wins an award? Who does Kyle recommend, then?) 010629 ... bowen Q: "Do you have any sympathy for punk bands?" Angus: "None" Bon: "What's a punk band?" 010706 ... torusinsubgeniusmode For pinks it's punk to be punk, but for PUNKS it's punk to be pink. 010707 ... gone? I find it funny now. I went thru subconsciously "trying" to be what I thought punk was and then I stopped trying much cause it just happened cause I like it and now I'm getting to the essence which is unity and DIY. don't critisize others for thinking differently. if you can't find what you want, make what you want. music is at the core and fashion is a peripheral. if it's fun then do it. and yes I cut the tags off my docs cause I'm not a walking advertisement. but I'll never call myself punk cause everyone's got a different definition and I don't wanna define myself as part of a group. I define myself as me and that's it. I'm not gonna be punk cause I do or don't like NOFX (I do). I'm not gonna be hardcore cause I like All Bets Off. I'm Me. That is IT. (I hear being indignant means you don't believe what you're saying. No.) 010708 ... yummychuckle everyone wants to define punk. good for you. this guy at my school hates me and terrorizes me because i am a poser because i had blue hair. can't i just like blue hair??? He was such an asshole to me. I was friends with most of his friends and he didn't know it. Just jumped at the chance to be an asshole to some random person and never thought that maybe i am cool or interesting or worthwhile or whatever. Apparently HIS friends thought i was. but ok I'm fake, sure. i'm a poser, although i make no claims. I like punk music, i dont advertise it like crazy. i like blue hair, i like purple hair... nothing is wrong with that. there are many punk fans who are just plain viscious in their definitions of punk. and people who are real punk fans. FUCK them. 010709 ... silentbobfuckyou Yeah, fuck them 010709 ... black-dyed gel product Although I go to A LOT of punk shows, I have never once considered myself a punk. I like the music, but I find the lifestyle too much work and far too cliche to ever consider pursuing it. One is never sure he is punk anyway. If you say you are a punk you're a poseur anyway. Besides, to be a punk, you have to get deep into the research of your genre. For example, to be a true punk on long island, you must know all about the history of the scene from about 1988 onward. You must possess an innumerable number of CDs to meet this qualification as you will be required to know all of the lyrics by heart. Then there's the matter of how you must dress. You must not wear leather as not to offend the vegans, you must own a bunch of T-shirts by a bunch of extra obscure scene bands. You must detest name brand jeans and either seek out expensive skater jeans or shop at salvation army. You also must not give a fuck about what you look like, which contradicts what I said before. You must be one step ahead of the scene, therefore you can make the following comment: "I've been a fan since the beginning; now with all these new little kiddie fans, I don't know if I can even listen to them anymore." You must know practically everyone that matters at every show you go to, usually getting in for free because of this. Also, here's the biggest cliche of the punk lifestyle, you must do all of this without trying, by intuition only, and without thinking about it. In fact, the only way to be a punk is to do all of the following without making a conscious effort to be a punk. Punk music I like. It's about unity and going against the trends of mtv. Its a little safety raft in a sea of corporatized music. I do, however, have a problem with the concept of being a punk. I feel that no one should have to meet the standards of being a true punk. I feel that no one should be a punk. I feel it should be all right to enjoy a show just because you like the music, and feel free to do some hardcore pit dancin if you want to. I hate labels and the standards of such labels. Enjoy what you like, and live how you choose. I believe we'd have a more unified scene if people stopped worried about being a punk and just enjoyed the music and culture of said scene. I'm sorry if I've offended any punks out there, but that's just how I feel. What do I know anyway, I'm not a punk. It's just one man's opinion, the one that I live by, but you have a mind that you may use to think how you want. That's the nice part of free will. 010709 ... yummyC thanks. you just pretty much captured my opinion, only if I were to use my own words i would have offended a zillion people and distorted what I really meant to say. so yeah. **starts clapping and wipes a tear from her eye** (whispered) thankyou. 010710 ... Dafremen What's wrong with shopping at the Salvation Army? 010710 ... Dafremen Well unless yer shopping for romance that is. 010710 ... black-dyed gel product Shopping at the Salvation Army is almost like robbing the homeless, which when you're drunk like I am now is really fucking funny. 010710 ... yummychuckle looky! 1000 lb Larry ... 12 Cent ... 200 North ... 30 Day Warranty ... 30 Second Fury ... 37 Slurp ... 5 Minit Major ... 7 Day Weekend ... A Secret to Keep ... Ablaze ... Across the Border ... Agent 51 ... Airbomb ... Aka Nothing ... Anal Beard ... Anal Thunder ... Axis ... Bad Poetry Minute ... Ball Cheeze Psychotics ... Bambix ... Bickie's Cab ... Big Wheel ... Bizzare Cowboys ... Blinder ... Blood Party ... Bloody Crackdown ... Bottles and Skulls ... Bravado Bravura ... Briegel ... Brigada 99 ... Broken Art ... ... Broomfiller ... Bunchofu*kingoofs ... Celebrity Roast ... Changing Names ... Charlie Brown Gets a Valentine ... Cheepshot ... Chester ... Chupacabra JR. ... Clearview 77 ... Closer Than Kin ... Closet Monster ... Cluster Bomb Unit ... Coyote ... Crummy Stuff ... Custom Caravans ... CZD ... De Crew ... Dead End Kids ... Dead Inside ... Dead Sheriff ... Derita Sisters ... Die Optimale ... Dirt Bike Annie ... Disco Vato ... DMS ... Dogs of Lust ... Dogshi* Sandwich ... Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem ... Dread Fabrik ... Driven Out ... Drowning Fish ... Drunken Orgy ... Dufus ... Dumpster Junkies ... Durge ... Earth to Nigel ... Easy Way Out ... Educational Chaos ... El Nada ... Electric Eel Shock ... Elroy ... Encroach ... ESL ... False Identity ... Faster Than Eddie ... Female Chauvinist Pigs ... Fetus Eaters ... Flat Earth Society ... Flipside ... Flyboy ... For the Last Time ... Foxy ... Free Living Insanity ... Ga.Ra.Dro. ... Ganglia ... Generation 69 ... Get Up and Go'ers ... Grace and Thieves ... Grounded ... Guys on a Hill ... Haeckenflosse ... Happy Campers ... Haulin' Ass ... HCA ... Hellroute 16 ... Hiper Lopro ... Hollywood Rivals ... Hoppin' Mad ... Huskavarna ... Hybrid Mutants ... I God ... Imbeciles by Class ... Immanuel C*nt ... Intention ... James Richard Oliver ... Jason ... Jeepers H. Crackers ... Johnny Cheapo ... Justin Time ... Kate of Kale ... KFP ... Kismet Hardcore ... Kremirani Casi ... Kropsy ... Lame Ducks ... Larvae ... Laughing Stock ... Leek and the Bouncing Uptones ... Love Kills ... Luck of the Draw ... Machine Gun Etiquette ... Menstrual Tramps ... Merrick ... Milhouse USA ... Minor Disturbance ... Mixtwitch ... Mold ... Monkies Doin It ... Moodfrye ... MoPar ... Moron Envy ... Morris ... Mother Russia ... Mouthguard ... Mr. Zippy ... My 3 Scum ... N Flunders ... Nectar ... Nectare ... Nerdlinger ... New Society of Anarchists ... Next To Nothing ... No Erasers Allowed ... No Thrills ... None the Less ... Normal Figures ... Nothing in Common ... Nowhere Squares ... Odio Simple ... One Less ... Pen 15 ... Petrograd ... PK Rippers ... Plan 15 ... Plate Six ... Polemic ... Porter Hall ... PP7 and the Calypso Queerleaders ... Pro Monroe ... Proletarian Art Threat ... Psychotic Reaction ... Pulpit Red ... Punching Judy ... Punishment Park ... Rank Miasm ... Reaction 31 ... Rebel Rebel ... Resistenza ... Rickshaw ... Rotten Boi!s ... Run Amuck ... Ruth's Hat ... Same Day Service ... Sanity Assassins ... Scaredy Cat ... Scintilla ... Scorefor ... Scrumfeeder ... Sewing with Nancie ... Shandon ... Shikshadle ... Shiloh Church ... Shi*loads of *uck All ... Shiver ... Sir Veja ... Six String Rebels ... Sixty Foot Time ... Slightly Askew ... Smack Attack ... Soapbox Revolt ... Spazboy ... Speedfreaks ... Spitball ... Square One ... Square the Circle ... Squeezepoint ... Stage Hand Scott ... Stinking Dogs ... Suicide King ... SUK ... Supreme Dispassion ... Switch 247 ... Synapse ... System 39 ... Tear of a Doll ... The Band From Planet X ... The Bedspins ... The Blamed ... The Book is on the Table ... The Borderguards ... The Browns ... The Bullocks ... The Bullys ... The Cartwrights ... The Cheapskates ... The Cheeks ... The Coffin Cheaters ... The Comeback ... The Commercials ... The Creetins ... The Daryls ... The Deep Eynde ... The Disappointments ... The Disruptives ... The Ed Kemper Trio ... The Eight Bucks Experiment ... The Eradicators ... The Family Dog ... The Flamingo Massacres ... The Freeze ... The Ghoulies ... The Good Boys ... The Grand Prixx ... The Gutter Queens ... The Guttersnipes ... The Infected ... The Interns ... The Jackalopes ... The Jeff Tucker Explosion ... The Jocks ... The Jonee Earthquake Band ... The Load Levelers ... The Mighty Gordinis ... The Mixelpricks ... The Motivs ... The Offs ... The Pink Torpedoes ... The Piss Shivers ... The Pokers ... The Pricks ... The Putrid Flowers ... The Railway Humanoids ... The Red Tops ... The Rong 'uns ... The Rotten ... The Rude Street Peters ... The Seal Klubb Orkestra ... The Shi*giveits ... The Sindys ... The Sloppy Meateaters ... The Sludgefu*kas ... The Sneak Previews ... The Steam Pig ... The Strap Ons ... The Unknown ... The Vectors ... The Visitors ... The Wallys ... Thee STP ... Think Twice ... Threefoot ... Tinnitus ... Token ... Torg ... Ubangi Stomp ... Uncle Tiki ... Unfold ... V Okovih ... Vic Du Monte's Idiot Prayer ... White Trash Debutantes ... Wisecracker ... Worm Quartet ... Xnachos ... Zero Tolerance Task Force ... Zippo Raid those are the bands that i get cds from. i mean songs from them on diferent cds. hoorah! i posted them on the dammit page by accident. ah I'm happy. new cds are on their way! 010719 ... silentbob thats a helluva lot of cds, yummy chuckle. your job is to make me a tape of your favorites of these are they free or what? 010719 ... black-dyed gel product I'm disappointed. I didn't see Flogging Molly or the Movielife on your list. :::frowns::: :( 010719 ... yummyC lol, sorry, i just realized i didnt explain...its on the dammit page...i have a few songs from each of those bands, i beleive. ten cds with all those bands on em. they arent the copied kind...they come in this pretty tin with a patch and stickers and stuff. and a big booklet thing... i got it off of Ebay, cost $40. cost my DAD 40 dollars. he was feeling guilty for ...well...being a good dad. I was juts mad at him so i guesshe bought that so i would be happy. it worked. i would LOVE to have the full cd from all these bands, lol...and I AM getting a flogging molly CD when i get the munny for it. I have a long list of CDs to buy. I want glass eater (i heard the new one wasnt that great, but idno) and flogging molly and a zillion more... *sigh* 10 cds from ebay + 5 cds from bmg music service (old weezer, fiona apple..ect = happiness. 010720 ... Allie Today someone asked me what the definition of punk was. I kicked over a tin garbage can. "That" I replied "was punk." 010720 ... braineaters oi oi oi 010720 ... silentbob so yeah,..make me a tape 010720 ... bijou Imagine that, you can go to e-bay and buy yourself a "hundred-pound-punk" kit for beginners and cut out years of dedicated research in the field of good music. I bet it comes with an instruction manual too. In my city, you can go to the local "Hot Topic" and buy backpacks with "punk rock" patches already sewn on them! This made me laugh out loud. Imagine going to high school with your new "punk" threads and shit-stompin dickies kicks, and your designer punk rock backpack, patches already in place. You walk in the door on the first day of school and three other kids walk past with the same backpack, the same patches. This concept is hilarious to me. It's genious, really. Mr Topic himself is laughing all the way to bank, exploiting all these children who so desparately want to be different. They have no creativity, just their parents credit cards or some of them their McDonalds paychecks. I'm sorry, I really usually try to be positive when I blather but I have passed this thread many times and I feel like I have to say something. I can't claim to be punk, you have to be born punk I think. I just started listening to the music in high school because there was NOTHING left. And I think that's the reason it's so popular these days, people have run out of things to do, there is (mostly) no good music being made these days. At least as far as pop goes. Bands like blink 182 and sum41 had everything layed out perfectly for them before they even learned how to play their instruments. Pop music has been waiting for the new "bad boys", the alter-egos to bands like the backstreet boys and nsync. And as much as it does make punk fans want to tunnel under ground, I have no doubt this is a trend that will pass quickly and you'll be back to where you started, getting sent to the principals office and getting beat up after school for having a mowhawk or spray-painted stencils on your leather jacket. Isn't that the way it should be? 010802 ... kuleilani I don't think shopping at Salvation Army is like robbing from the homeless, I'm almost positive the money you spend there goes to help homeless people. (Perhaps after being cut sixteen times by the man. Maybe that's where the robbing comes in.) 010802 ... dave thats all you need to know i hate choads that punks names by singling us into posers or sellouts they can go put there head in the trash were they came from. 010802 ... yummychuckle fuck you. don't judge me for buying a set of punk cds, that I thought sounded good (and are good). Saved me money. anyways, fuck you. 010803 ... bijou i knew you would get pissed. that's why i never say negative things, because people take it personally and get all bent outta shape. i am not making fun of you. i think you are an intellegent person with great taste in music. i even saw your picture on your website, and you are a beautiful girl. i was just trying to make i point. i will refrain from further such activity in your presence or at your expense. (unless you bought one of those backpacks, then theres just no excuse.) 010804 ... fuckaname motherfucker trying to find a definition for the extreme outburst of raw uninhiited energy you should give up your search punk is not cool punk is not hip punk is not to be liked or trendy punk is real a bunch of fucking losers that realize the world is one big flaming pile of rotting shit i belong to punk punk belongs to me im a loser im not cool im not a trendsetter and beleive me i am sure as hell not popular you should learn a lesson from me and that is that you should all shut the fuyck up and get over yourselfs 010813 ... the one i assume you know what your doing i assume your making it right but to be a punk in love just might take all night. Nobody wants to try it.. no one will ever see that the coolest thing about you is that you arent me. Punx are here everywhere. we have a whole PAP war going on- punks against the police. they're corrupting all of us...trying to make us conform. Shit all we want to do is play hack and listen to fucking shit that doesnt ryme love with above and dove and every other fucking corny word out there. FUCK. PunX need to be recognized as people too. Were better than you anyway...Damn !!!!PAP!!!!! 011113 ... silentbobwideeyed *cough cough cough* 011113 ... Sonya It seems that more and more the "definition" of punk relies on how one dresses. I've been condemned for listening to punk music yet not wearing plaid or dying my hair blue, or spiking it, or getting chains or piercings or a bunch of other bullshit stuff that punks are "supposed" to do or wear. I get this bullshit more and more because I now listen to music that actually means something to me for once and has a genuine influence on me. The music means a lot to me, and has inspired me to get involved in some organizations. It has opened my eyes. It has shown me that while it's good to talk, we should also act. I'm not talking about Blink crap, but bands like Propagandhi, Sick Of It All, and Anti-Flag. People who supposedly claim to be 'punk' sometimes do not hesitate to criticize the people who share the same ideals but do not dress like them. I find this to be contradictory to punk in general. Supposedly the punk mentality (for lack of a better word) states that you should not care about material objects and that should include clothes. It states that you should not have to conform to other people's wishes, and you should say and dress however you want. So why is it that so many spoiled brats (yes spoiled brats) who go out of their way to "look" the stereotypical version of punk, feel the need to jump down someone's back when they don't dress like them? These same kids who claim to be punk start bitching when other people do not conform to their wishes by not wanting to spike up their hair and all of that rubble. Don't get me wrong, if people want to spike their hair I'm all for it. I'm just saying that I don't want to I don't need some jackass who claims to be punk and believe in punk ideals harping on me for not being "hardcore" enough. Whatever the hell 'hardcore' means now. The ideals, the beliefs, the politics...hell if you know anything about the band Propagandhi you'd know that to them, the politics are very important. If you share the same beliefs then the music only serves to fuel your beliefs. And furthermore the kids who like Blink 182 or Sum 41 and claim to be "punk"....that is also contradictory. Granted we may never reach a sound definition of what punk really means, but I have yet to see Blink 182 or Sum 41 DO rather than sing/talk. As far as I can see Blink 182 has evolved into just trendy music for the portion of the MTV crowd that did not conform to the boyband clique. Sum 41 just came along at the right time. The fact that they're both on MTV just confirms that there is a large hypocrisy in this genre we call "punk". They obviously put in a lot of effort to get into the mainstream, to get on pop television. See what I'm getting at here? I personally do not claim to be 'punk' because there is no real definition. Perhaps being punk doesn't have anything to do with definition at all. Perhaps it's being chaotic, disorganized, and unable to be labeled, categorized, or subsidized? All I know is that what I've learned about punk in general and what I see in a lot of the supposed punks today do not match. Someone wrote earlier about how you literally have to go out of your way to do all of these things in order to be considered punk. As if punk is a trend....I don't know what to think anymore. It seems like when something becomes a trend the meaning itself is taken away. Wipe away all the spiked hair, the plaid, and the torn pants and what do you have left? If you know what you stand for great, if not...then maybe you ought to spend less time making yourself up and more time finding out what it is that you stand for. Oh and it's also interesting when I hear supposed punks using the words like queer and fags and being blatantly against homosexuality....due to the fact that the definition of punk is still in question, I may be diving into hypocrisy here. Some people just seem to miss the entire of point of the same music they say they live by. To define punk is probably something that can never happen. 011113 ... ilovepatsajak just do what you like 011113 ... ice i enjoy punk music and everything, but i don't understand the new glitter punk revival, with studs and fashion accessories and cute little safety pins. sometimes i feel like looking trashy. a white t-shirt with holes and the occasional stain; sporadic growths of facial hair littering my face. i want my appearance to shout out "I reject all of your stereotypes and classifications and requirements!" I will have bumperstickers announcing my impending hermit status and denounce anything to do with "customer service." 011114 ... Mabel An expression of the soul(just very loud) 011204 ... me duke 011215 ... kerry go sonya, you rock and i think can't you be into punk music and other things at the same time like indie rock and emo and not have to be so labelled???? what the hell is everyone's problem these days? 011218 ... ClairE "That guy's not PUNK! What a punk..." 011218 ... scared barbie doll everyone should listen to Anti-Flag 020206 ... silentbob im into punk and other things at the same time like emo and indie rock and classic rock and some alternative rock. Im into it all because its all music and a lot of it is good. its a stupid attitude to ONLY like punk. is that what you were saying? 020206 ... *~K an attitude. an in-your-face'dness that most of the people dressing in spiky hair & listening to shit like green day couldn't begin to try at home. it came originally from a jailhouse term. the little guys, the ones who'd just get used as currency. THAT was a punk. so it had to've come down to a complete opposite of resignation, an inner hatred that said, you know, you MAY disapprove of me, you MAY be able to beat me, rape me, whatever it is you can do because you're stronger, but you can NOT break me, you can NOT crush my spirit, & in the end, that makes me STRONGER than you. that's punk. not safety pins. not hair gel. those are ok, but if you don't have that spunk, you ain't got shit. 020218 ... silentbob and if u don't like blink yr a loozer LOL 020218 ... you dont call me girl, chick, women, hey you, whore, mamas girl, emo, hardcore, punk, or anything that you want to label me. now please call me my name, _________. 020227 ... Throwback Punk is undefinable, in many ways. Punk is only this: The advocation of independant thought. To be a "punk", one does not have to have a piercing, or green hair, or blue hair, or be obnoxious. To be a "punk" (as much of one as possible, anyways), you only have to think for yourself, make your own decisions, speak what you know is right. And above all, never apologise for your beliefs. I don't care if you wear "corporate" clothes, or studs, or chains, or rags, or a damn barrel... if you are true to youself, you're as punk as they come, kid. 020417 ... silentbob I agree. its a punk kind of attitude. As well as standing up and fighting back when you see something is wrong. and actually trying to make a difference. I think the same can be said about Emo. People want to know what the boundaries are and things like that. It doesn't have to be so black and white like that. All music has emotion. When most people think of emo they think of the whiney little bands with sad pretty songs. but i don't think it necessarily has to be that narrow. "Oh so you're saying a band like AFI can be emo?" Basically, even though a band as hard and screechy as AFI could be the last thing you think of when you hear EMO, AFI isn't lacking in emotion, therefore, they could be seen that way. Know what i mean? It's a wide spectrum and pinning down one thing to define that classification is...you're setting yourself up. or maybe i'm setting myself up. 020418 ... good people i could consider myself punk (or A punk) but i dont dress punk or listen to punk. i am pretty hardcore, and smoke a lot of pot. thats why i believe that punk is a mentality, nothing more. and i think people should stop giving a shit about what other people think is "punk". if you were punk you wouldnt care. fuck punk. 020418 ... silentbob it just annoys me when people are too elitest. 020418 ... Throwback I'm actually writing a definition paper on what "punk" really is for an englishcomp class right now. Oh, while on the topic, anyone know a place where i could get good quotes on what punk is? Atleast two references are required for the paper. Anyways, what was I gonna say... Oh yeah. It seems to me that most "punks" i meet aren't really "punk" at all. They're in such a hurry to get self-righteous, define everyone around them, and scream "sellout"... they defeat their own supposed ideals. Screaming "sellout" and acting self-righteous is the least punk attitude available, man. It seems that most punks i run into nowadays are only punks because they couldn't make the football team and all the pretty girls ignore them ^_^ 020419 ... silentbob thast such an immature mentality and most punky kids under 17 are guilty and it worries me when i see people older than that still caught up with those kinds of matters. its like "Who cares?" there are other bands to listen to, dont be so pissy Try to quote sources like Jello Biafra, Henry Rollins, Jeff Ott of fifteen, and Ian McKaye of Fugazi/minor threat 020419 ... silentbob thast such an immature mentality and most punky kids under 17 are guilty and it worries me when i see people older than that still caught up with those kinds of matters. its like "Who cares?" there are other bands to listen to, dont be so pissy Try to quote sources like Jello Biafra, Henry Rollins, Jeff Ott of fifteen, and Ian McKaye of Fugazi/minor threat 020419 ... sarcasticbob gee blather, thanks for letting me know i blathered the same thing twice 020419 ... lo i'm not a punk or anything else for that matter but i saw a funny scene at the asbury park skate and surf fest. one punk kid talking to his friend about some other punk kid passing by all decked out in spikes and patches and the like. he says "you can tell that kid is just in it for the style" i looked at him and the one he was judging. they looked exactly alike. just the way it goes i guess 020423 ... silentbob Yeah. i hate it when people have to do that. it's like...let people do what they're gonna do and dont bitch about it. 020423 ... Daria EEEWWWW! Gag never has any form of music same so closely related to pop. Ick. 020423 ... green eyes saFEtY-pInS 020423 ... Throwback One thing that makes me laugh is the apparent need some "punk" kids feel to say the f-word "Fuck this, fuck that, fuck that fuckin' thing" over and over, like it's some sort of "punk" requirement. Just an odd little tidbit i've noticed ^_^ 020424 ... silentbob i've actually noticed everyone does this. 020424 ... Daria Yah, I think punk is fuckin' stupid. 020425 ... Daria Yah, I think punk iz fuckin' stupid. 020425 ... poeticmisfit i've found that thugs and preppies have the uncontrolable desire to bash on punks because they are entirely too different for their wn style. have you ever hear a prep say "fuck"? then WOAH....oh my goodness, preps say fuck too much too. and what about thugs? look at rap...look at there music and tell me that "fuck" is not laced through their musical approach to life. fuck is fuck. there is no stereotype you can put it in, it just is. punk is not just a fashion, or even what words you say. its a lifestyle, a life itself. why must people continue to dillude it into a teeny-bopper life? why, being a teen, do i feel like i should be put in a showcase on MTV and labeled into a fashion in order to be accepted by the world? *she sceams* FUCK THE WORLD! (hahaa...ok sorry.) 020723 ... she Fly, Punkass, Fly 020723 ... Freak People who claim to be punk are always the people who never fit in anywhere else and just went to punk as a place to go so they can say that they are something or someone sense they are all just no one. No one could convince me otherwise. I know thats the way it is. Yeah, Im punk. 020729 ... targetemployee are kilts punk? what about red white and blue friendship braclets? can my dog be considered punk? what about my gay older brother? 020810 ... phil drugged white hypocrite 020810 ... phil who fail to explain anything 020810 ... melissah i wish i was alive in the true days of punk. alas, today's youth, metalheads, skater-punks, goths...we do not know our roots... 020811 ... kerry it makes me sad to see people so consumed with working hard to fit into a certain genre. after reading this entire blathe i still feel the same way i did before... because it's all about attitude, people who try to be punk AREN'T, and i dont know if i'm cut out to be a punk or not but i sure as hell would like to have the satisfaction of not caring at all what people think of me. but i do, and i suppose this_is_normal, and i guess it's normal to be scared to take a stand even if people are against you, and if that's what punk is, and I think it is, then i know i'm not punk. but i'd really like to be. 020811 ... jonbecker02 You don't have to dress like a punk to be a punk. 020812 ... phil yeah...you do 020818 ... silentbob the first rule of punk rock is you do not talk about punk rock 020819 ... kerry ifyoucouldfightanyonewhowoulditbe 020819 ... phil probably the punk rock girl 020821 ... clever name the unabomber was punk. ted kaczynski didn't give a shit about breaking arbitrary cultural norms that try to dictate who we're allowed to blow up. and the hair... punk as fuck 020821 ... silentbob funk as puck 020821 ... myplasticmind blink 182 is *not* punk. i love punk. i hate blink 182. therefore- blink 182 can not be punk. it just doesn't work. *oh the controversy of the world we live in today...what next?* 020829 ... silentbob so what it all comes down to is a deductive reasoning based on your opinion? i like punk, but i hate pain, therefore its not punk to get peircings. just an observation. 020829 ... myplasticmind *wonders if its actually really up to her* It's weird to think about....what if everything you thought was the hardcore-right-there-bottom-line TRUTH. Like if you just woke up and said " Peaches suck." It would make peaches actually suck. I think that kind of power would most definitly be abused. I think thats what it is with God... ANyways...no, I was just being sarcastic. Sorry 020829 ... silentbob will you go out with me? 020830 ... myplasticmind will you make me some orange juice? 020904 ... *nat* the easy way into rock 020905 ... silentbob you want me to squeeze it from the orange cow? or defrost from concentrate? 020905 ... ~gez~ why dont you defrost the cow from its eternal [obviously not] resting place in the sheets of artic ice, then link it to a sucking machine rocks 020905 ... myplasticmind i think the artic-sucking-machine thingy sounds good. and if it's not too much bother...could you sift the pulp out with your teeth? that would be lovely 020906 ... poeticmisfit punk is a body of water that only drains when you scream at it.... ahahaha. yeah 020909 ... jayseehc punk is who you are. the ideology of the world, even of the punks of this world, in time will come to ruin. I suggest that everyone who is putting their trust and their life into punk rock begin to search for answers. Search for something truly steadfast. I did. For me, Punk Rock will never be hollow and empty again. 020910 ... silentbob yeah man, punk rock is ronald regan, in his wheel chair, drooling and not remembering things, being who he is. punk rock is george dubya bush defending his beliefs for his country. punk rock is bill gates, fighting those bastards who just don't seem to understand him. 020910 ... jayseehc bob... don't twist my words... if I have to spell it out for you like you're a three year old, then fine. punk rock is ABOUT who you are. whether you're punk rock DEPENDS on who you are. NOT how you dress or what music you listen to. don't be ignorant. ignorance is really un-punk. 020910 ... xdlea he was making a joke... just fucking around... lighten up. 020910 ... Ballantine Ferry Corsten - Punk , definatly one song which can put a smile on your dial, anytime, anywhere. 020911 ... silentbob and i would NEVER want to be unpunk would i? "punk rock is ABOUT who you are. whether you're punk rock DEPENDS on who you are. NOT how you dress or what music you listen to." if you read it enough times it begins to lose all meaning. 020911 ... Shane why do you people feel the need to talk on and on about what punk is? it's something that just is. people who feel the need to justify their punk-ness are the opposite of what punk is. what is punk? different to everyone. so just go with the flow and there are no such things as posers and sell outs. 020922 ... think about that why do you feel the need to criticise us and tell us what to do? 020922 ... phil I just have to mention in here I am a bigger punk ass than you. You're a bunch of punk bitches, you'r whore life is spent dwindling the rays of my punkin' endevour, you vast to scale the reach of my failure...degree and stuff! I will never die! Eat apples! 020923 ... Mallory punk is cool. whether it be music a mindset a fashion statment. But its also bull. Each one of us is a posuer. Everyone cares what others think. its in our nature. sure some people are more uninhibited but its all the same. I mean disliking bands that hit mainstream. thats so stupid! I mean disliking something because its trendy is just as bad as if that was the only reason you liked it. we are all shaped by our environment. we are all molded. none of us are free from rules, society, the norm. "punks" just do the opposite from the norm and pretend they are fighters, revolutionarys. They're posuers just like everyone else. i think everyone just needs to focus on why they are punk, or prep or jock. and then strip themselves of titles. Just be you. If you truly are your self you wont fit in a category. Everyone is a beautiful and unique snowflake. 021001 ... silentbob if everyone is a poser just like everyone else... then thats not posing is it? what about people who don't try to classify themselves, and just like what they think is good and don't care what other peoples opinion of their favorite bands are, it doesn't change their appreciation for it. is that posing? 021002 ... Mallory What i mean is that no one is free from caring about the opinions of others. And whether you would like to admit or not it shapes you. You just cant help it. And i know everyone likes to say "i dont care, i like my favorite bands, whatever." and maybe you are true your music, i pretty much am, but other peoples opinions do afeect in some ways. Its just a depressing truth. P.s. love the name silentbob 021003 ... silentbob you're right, in one way or another someones opinions do affect you somehow in some cases. maybe not in music in every case. i mean, as long as you are hearing someone else's opinion of whatever band you listen to, it is going to affect you, because people are affected by everything even if it is the most miniscule unnoticable way. but in some cases, people don't mention what bands they like, and so it never gets brought up, so if no one ever says, "I hate this band" but they actually do, then you wont be affected by their opinion. 021003 ... alora Punk rock died with Sid. 021003 ... gay gizmo ferry corsten - punk anyone interested in hard trance i extremely suggest you check this track out 021003 ... silentbob no it didn't. 021003 ... jayseehc silentbobisanass 021003 ... julietlives its the chance to leave one conformity, and join another. 021115 ... Erika you people are dumbasses, punk is punk, there are no rules to it! If you beleive you're "punk" then you fuckin are! the people who are really posers are the people that think there are so many fuckin rules to be it! And yes, if I had to label myself, but fuck labels all you posers would think I was punk, I am a "Hardcore" punk, which is what you people probably don't even understand what it is. I have black and blue hair, my lip is pierced, I am in a band, and I play bass, also I'm a chic, so figure your shit out before