cloves jane why "clove" and not cloves? there're more than one in a pack, you know. 090205 ... unhinged the only thing i smoked in the beginning. he hated the way they smelled. would get pissed when i smoked them at their shows, at his house. 'they smell like the things my grandma sticks in the ham' 'that's cause they are' 'oh.' 090205 what's it to you? who go blather from