fat * fat is all in your head. 000209 ... MollyGoLightly I've been on a diet since I was 13. That makes seven years. Isn't that hilarious? 000521 ... marian dubois people aren't all supposed to be the same shape. being fat is as predetermined as race. would you yell "nigger" at someone in the street? why can you yell "fat ass bitch" then? because american capitalist society profits from self hatred. 45% of the country is considered fat. that's where the $2 billion diet industry comes from... the circulation of weight watchers magazine, 2nd in the country only to the new york times... the doctor says, "lose weight. here's a diet. stop fooling yourself. how dare you attempt self esteem when you are a will-powerless fatso? you are disgusting. take my dangerous chemicals, my expensive and dangerous surgery, take my bogus and biased opinion on the health risks of 'obesity' and let them drive you to obsession with food, unhealthy self consciousness. and help fill my pockets by this treatment that has a 95% failure rate. my cancer patients' insurance will only pay for treatments that have up to a 50% failure rate... and your insurance won't pay for weightloss treatment... why? they consider it cosmetic, not a health risk. AND THEY'RE RIGHT." let us show you our cellophane models, with their svelte bodies. you are a body, not a human being with a right to a full, vibrant life of love and beauty. you must torture yourself to look like our models. you will only reach this standard with our body products that you must buy from us. you must be hairless- buy our depillatory that lasts only a few days and is ridiculously impermanent. you must be thin- buy our pills, buy our machines, buy our surgery in our beautiful, symmetrical, antiseptic hospitals that are white like cleanliness, like purity, like dead flesh. buy our self hatred, our fear, our torpor, our death... you must have no will power. you are fat. nevermind that you have a 3.5, are drugfree, abstinent, and vegetarian. you are fat. it is a curse... go ahead, be an activist. see if we care. be a goth... the goth Muse is Thin. be a punk rock girl, the punk rock girl Muse is Thin. be a writer, be a musician, be anything... the perfect female image example will always be Thin. you will always be flawed in our eyes. 000528 ... MollyGoLightly I read this post and feel more than a little guilty. Like I've given up. 000528 ... ponit. fat cat. 000715 ... Fearful As long as I'm fat I'm safe. 000715 ... silentbob fat people are people too, they have enough on their minds that they dont need you judging them. this was not meant for anyone on blather, except someone who hasnt blathered since the beginning of summer. 000907 ... moonshine Fat? skinny? short? tall? I ve seen beauty in all forms. The most beautiful and attractive trait in the world isn't long legs, well-toned body, smooth complexion. Its Confidence, showing that your at ease and whim with who you are. That you absolutely love yourself. Maybe thats why I tend to love people who dance. They assert that sort of careless confidence in there movements. 000907 ... squirrel I could not agree more, moonshine. It's the light from the inside not the verdict from the outside.... The Venus of Willendorf is fat, but I'd bet she had (has?) a wonderful laugh! 001112 ... Barrett I don't want to call them "fat." Fluffy people are some of the most "real" people you will ever meet. Most "beautiful" or "perfect" people have to hide behind some bullshit mask. Funny how that works. 001112 ... jennifer dreamer of malta, "The dreamer is lying on her side on a low couch, one enormous right forearm underneath her head, the other draped across her heavy breast. She is ample-hipped and topless. Dressed in a full length, bell-shaped skirt she clearly appears to be asleep, almost visibly dreaming. The figures were probably part of a ceremony of dream incubation." such a beautiful creation it used to be that I would apologize for my size. that I would cry and demand to know why I was how I was. how I am. I would lock myself in my room for days so I wouldn't eat, in the efforts to shed a few pounds. I wouldn't allow myself to go out in public, or to parties I was invited to. I was miserable. recently I read an article in a magazine my mother subscribes to. not an article, really, but something about dressing. the title of the page was "are you dressing your thinnest?" I was disgusted. people of size, fat people, have discovered the most joy in life. they refuse to let others determine their attitudes. they are truly happy. it took me 19 long years to discover that I am happy with myself. and I refuse to apologize for who I am 001112 ... silentbob for what reason should you apologize? 001112 ... Dafremen ..I'm fat now. Three months of beer and unemployment can do that to you if you're not careful. It's my OWN fault that I'm fat. I can't BREATH anymore. My pants don't fit. My legs get tired from walking to my office every morning. I can't make love like a sex crazed lunatic anymore. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO ME? Screw you, screw this...fat sucks...I feel like shit. Take yer fat ass to the gym with ME. And YES I hate the gym too, but fuck it, it's better than being fat. Let's work out together. No compassion for your obese condition or mine. None at all. We all have our crosses to bear. Now YOURS is mine...and it's all my fault...and yours is all YOURS! Stop BLUBBERing!! 010216 ... knives i really enjoy your site 010320 ... monde which means "world" big and round dafremen, maybe YOU can afford the goddam gym. i went to 24 hr nautilus last year to sign up. i asked up at the front counter how much...they said we'll have a trainer come and talk about it with you. i asked again how much. they said please wait a moment. then out comes mister jack be nimble in his gym shorts and a big smile and too vigorous handshake. i ask him HOW MUCH WILL THIS COST ME i want to join the gym for a month. he wouldn't answer. he said well first can we talk a little bit about what this is going to be WORTH to YOU. i want YOU to tell me how much weight you want to lose. i was getting REAL suspicious - this was the biggest snowjob i have ever seen. i said i wanna be realistic, get myself in shape, i know the weight ain't gonna drop off like it was melting off my bones. i know in reality most people lose a maximum of 20-25 pounds or so from diet and exercise together. and then no more, really. this asshole salesman told me why don't you set your goals higher. What would it mean to you to lose FIFTY pounds? well, i thought to myself it would mean i would stop feeling like all i was was a middle aged but ungrownup just grown OUT has-been of an ex-junkie ex-industrial-music-groupie who can't walk without plodding waddling it's not just vogue and MTV you know it's every female in every sci fi novel or other thing i read or look at anywhere for most people i figure the idea of fucking a fat body is about as attractive as me thinking of doing it with a guy with short hair I HATE SUPERFICIALITY AND MY OWN SICK HYPOCRISY AND SHALLOW SHIT but most of all i hate that fucking 24 hour nautilus guy who made me listen to his babble about goals and motivation for 45 minutes just to hear i could not just sign up for a month it had to be for 6 months and would cost $475.00 like i can afford that. right. so i take walks. it doesn't help i'm from an obese family, i am fat for life, and if my boyfriend ever gets sick of it and ever gets sick of ME and leaves me i'd fuck my own hallucinations for the rest of my life rather than deal with approaching the kind of guy who'd even consider boinking me looking as i do 275 pounds, five foot seven are you getting the picture? (unless he's a clone of my mate and i don't think he got around to making one yet.) 010420 ... sammy whale fat can be used to make lamp oil. 010420 ... Dafremen You're fat dear. Oh well, worse things have happened to worse people. Not all gyms are nautilus and dipshit airhead jocks in shorts. You need some weight lifting and aerobics dear. If you want to bring up the fact that your family is fat, that's your prerogative, but the fact of the matter is that DOESN'T free you from the responsiblity for getting yourself where you want to be, anymore than the fact that nicotine is the second most addictive substance next to heroin frees me from blame if I don't quit smoking. I was responsible for my 13 year smoking habit IN SPITE of the fact that kicking it was the hardest thing I had ever asked myself to do. In SPITE of the fact that I had failed to quit time and time and time again. If you want something you don't say, "Aww f*ck it!" you keep trying til it's done or until you just don't want it anymore. (I DID quit by the way, last July see also: Marlboro ) Saying "This is how I am and I can't change" or "Unless you were me you couldn't possibly know" or "My whole family is fat, it's genetic" or "It's not a choice" is a crutch. It's motivated by the SAME thing that keeps you fat. Lack of TRUE desire to quit. Once you lose that desire, you've succumbed to your own self made image of you which more often than not you will blame on society's unfair expectations of you and other fat people like you. If you DON'T want to be fat you won't, plain and simple. If you don't want to do WHATEVER it takes to not be fat AND you can live with that, then say so. Say you don't WANT to be skinny. No I'm afraid those old crutches won't quite support your weight missy. They just won't. Is it hard? DAMN straight it's hard. Is it the hardest thing you'll ever have to do..probably so. Will you be a HOT sexy babe when you're done losing the weight? F*ck yea, just about every fat chick that's ever lost the weight HAS been.(Course they usually cant cope with all of the attention and turn into freaky sluts, but hey, every form of refuge has its price and refuge from the judging eye of society is no exception) I've said my piece. If you want to go on blathering about how it's not your fault and you can't do anything about it, you do that, I'm going to my apartment complex's workout room every day and walking the bike path every morning and every night. I take my wife and kids for a walk every weekend. Hell yea I'm EXHAUSTED after I'm done and I HATE working out, it's such a waste of time. Then again, right now it's time I'm willing to waste...for ME. 010509 ... j_blue losing weight does change alot of things when i lost it, i began to resent everyone around me who noticed that i looked better even now, i become irritated if i suspect that somebody is cruising me its hard to forgive people for something like this, by accepting their praise or attention, i am promoting the system of abuse which i had been festering under until the weight loss, at least thats how it feels it isnt right yet its strange, and most people i know that lost weight do go through a period of resentment and adjustment i wonder how many ex-fat, now-slutty girls are actually playing the accepted slutty men?? 010509 ... owko fat can be phat big up respect to the big people 010509 ... tara i had issues with weight when i was thin. i had issues with weight when i was fat. at what weight will the issues end? 010515 ... Dafremen Oh no doubt about it j_blue, they DO. It's vengeance with a vengeance baby. Same thing happens to geeks that redo their image. They take a bit of pleasure in making the beautiful ones suffer. Hey all is fair in... 010524 ... Dafremen I think the biggest roadblock facing fat people is probably a mental one, not a physical one. It seems to me that whenever fat people decide to lose weight they're not looking as it as pursuing a positive goal. No I think most fat folx