ask_daf Dafremen This is a continuation of: dafremen_answers_five_questions Please ask up to 5 questions and I will try to answer truthfully and in a manner which it has been said "is insightful when.." it "...doesn't suck, which.." it "..usually does. Suck that is." 030712 ... ferret 1. who are you? 2. who am i? 3. who are we? 4. can you tell me where to find God? 5. is it possible to see the color narange? 030712 ... Dafremen 1. I am one of the lunkiest hunks of stuff in the universe. I'm the receiver of a gift beyond all gifts. I am alive. Nice to meet you. 2. You are as am I. You may or may not have developed your belief system fully or you may have. Regardless, we come from the same place. We're going back there again. We are kin. Nice to meet you. 3. We together are the two most precious gifts given to humanity. The audience and the entertainer. In any order you like. 4. Yes and no. God is inside of you and all around you. God comes to different people in many guises. God comes to the same people in different guises. I am a pantheist. For me it is enough to know that I was created by the universe. Here I am when so much around me does not have this chance right now. I am lucky. I am liberated from the dirt. I am given a chance to show my appreciation and before I know it, my turn will be over. I will show everything my appreciation. I have found God in everything around me. You will find God where God appears to you. You will know you have found God, I don't know how to describe the sensation, but you will know it when you feel it. 5. Yes and no. I have no idea what colors they will come up with next. The human eye can distinguish more colors than you can shake a Crayola 64 box at. So although no, technically, you cannot see narange...you might be able to a see a color that remains nameless today, but that some day will be known as narange. Secondarily, there is a rare condition ( SYNAETHESIA ) that allows people to see colors when sounds are translated by their brains. These people might be able to see a color or pattern when the word "narange" is spoken, which might qualify as another yes. 030712 ... x 1) How much of this had to do with your "experiment"? 2) What was your experiment again? Being an asshole? 3) Can deliberately being an asshole really be considered an experiment? 4) How do you know that that isn't just how you really are? 5) Once and for all, do you, or do you not, like kittens? 030717 ... Dafremen 1. None of it. What experiment? 2. Well that's not exactly experiemntal territory for me, but sure...if you like it was an experiment in being an asshole. (Psst. I was just writing. No...really!) 3. I'm not sure. Deliberately? Hmm. Well yea I guess so, sort of. Course SAYING that you were deliberately being an asshole isn't really an experiment. That's just something stupid to say when you need a good ending. 4. Good point. I don't. Come meet me, then YOU can tell me. I'm not a violent person, so don't worry bout that. I don't hold grudges or try to get revenge, so don't even give it a second thought. My front door is open to visitors until the 24th as per sometimes_i_wish_people_would_just_be_spontaneous. 5. Yea, I guess there's nothing wrong with a little pussy now and then. They'd better be box trained though. I can't stand slippin on pet crap on my way to the bathroom in the middle of the night. 030717 ... shivers 1)What do u think about puppies? 2)Do u bielive in life after death? 3)How come my dad hates my little brother? (he's just 11, he's done nothing wrong) 4)Which is better, coke or pepsi? 5)What is the perfect age to lose your virginity? 030717 ... ferret i've heard of synaethesia before 030717 ... Dafremen 1. Puppies are cute too. Same deal with the potty training. 2. Hmm. I believe it is possible. I also believe in the gift of being reintroduced to the cycle of life. That's life after death and it is a very important hope that I keep in my heart. 3. He probably doesn't hate him at all. I'd have to know your father or at least do his chart to be able to give you a good answer. However, often we fathers feel that we especially have a responsibility to get our boys ready for the cruelties of teenage years and manhood after that. Guys get their @sses kicked regularly for being too sensitive. Your brother is reaching that age. I imagine dad's just requiring more of him and it looks like he hates him cuz he's on his case more. 4. I honestly like Coke better because it's sort of all-purpose. It's unsweet enough for when you don't feel like sweet, but sweet enough to mix with brandy. 5. We should probably wait until we're in our twenties at least. We won't but we probably should. That's really not the determining factor though. The determining factors are: Are you at a place in your life where having a baby can be worked into the plan easily without changing all of your plans for the future? Do you really want to be in the market for another girlfriend/boyfriend down the road shortly? These are questions you might want to ask yourself since one of these is a possible consequence of premarital sex and the other is a probable one. 030717 ... ferret 1. who was Cain's wife? in Genesis he is supposed to have had a wife, who was she? 2. can you explain free will? (you might want to create a seperate blathe so we can discuss this) 3. yes or no? 4. no or yes? 5. do your answers conflict? 030718 ... Dafremen 1. Excellent question. Before I answer this question, I'm going to avoid beating around the bush and let you know that I really feel the question warrants a side track as an answer. Here is that side track. I think that when one goes about examining a text as rich in history as the bible. (As much as it may or may not have been tainted by politics and well intentioned mischief it is a VERY old text and much of it has since been archeologically verified.) We should take into consideration that it isn't the Bible itself that is trying to be taken literally as events that transpired, it is those who (and they MAY be right) believe that the Bible is literally word for word the actual events that transpired, that create paradoxes in the Bible. Not once has the Bible said to you, me or anyone, except those mentioned above, "everything in here is the literal history of actual events that transpired." Rather the Bible says that the "Word of God" will not be tainted. Take THAT literally and it means that the words spoken by the omnipotent one himself have not been tainted. It does NOT literally say that the Bible hasn't been altered. In a way, I buy that. It makes sense. The people that went about translating the bible from language to language, version to version..ESPECIALLY in the old days, were GOD FEARING people. The very LAST thing they would want to do was invoke the eternal wrath of their God by presuming to change the actual words uttered by God. They would have been ESPECIALLY careful with most of those quotes. I would start any true study of the Bible off there. Anyhow, back to the side-track: the Bible never claimed to be anything literal, but it does APPEAR to be a very old chronicle of the history of human wisdom, the evolution of a society if you will. I believe that the story of Cain and Abel in it's very obvious gaps (don't think you are the first to ask this asked entirely too often question) screams that there are details askew and pieces missing. It doesn't claim to be the history of the first family of Eden, but rather a revealing story whose moral underlines the hideous nature of envy and jealousy. It's a very good story. I'm a pantheist and I STILL enjoy reading the Bible on occasion, it's a great read. No reason to disparage it here with frivolous nit picking. All that said, it never says that there were only the four of them in the Bible. Read it yourself. I'll quote: Genesis 4 (from the top) Now Adam had intercourse with Eve his wife and she became pregnant. In time she gave birth to Cain and said: "I have produced a man with the aid of (please insert your name for god here) (At this point we have Cain.) From Genesis 4:2 Later she again gave birth, to his brother Abel. (Ok now we have Cain & Abel.) (I wanna stop here because I think we can both scan the rest of Genesis 4:3 - 17 where the story ends. You can see that there is no mention of there only being four of them. They are simply the only four that are mentioned by NAME. Do you honestly think that after Abel popped out, Adam said, "Holy SH*T!! These rugrats keep comin out! Sorry Eve, no more doing the pokey thing that the snake showed us, these crying, screaming crapping little people are for the birds"? Do you? What do YOU think? He gave up paradise for Eve! You think he stopped having sex cua of the kids?! HELLO?!! Of course not, he kept on screwing and having kids while Cain and Abel were growing up. Fair enough? Ok enough of that. I think we've established how Cain could easily have had a wife. Also we've established that the "anyone finding" him that "would kill him" could have meant his own friggin clan. Adam they say lived to be 930 years old. I'm tellin ya, he did NOT stop laying pipe because of kids. I know I haven't. He was the first one to DISCOVER tail for gawd sake!! So yes, what I'm saying is we're a race of mongoloids. 2. I would have to believe in destiny first. I do not. I believe in action and reaction. I believe past actions creating future consequences. I do not believe that we are predestined to our misery and therefore God is horrible since he saw it coming. I believe we make our own misery and God is just one of the many convenient excuses which the lazy and unfortunate have come up with to have someone to shake their fists at besides themselves when things aren't going their way. I believe we have freewill because it is part of the gift package that you have been given by grace or fate. The rest of our kin lie in the ground as dirt and stuff. Their number didn't come up yet, they're still inanimate matter in the ground. Your number DID come up..you WIN! You can see and feel and think and smell and taste and cry and scream and ache and be in love and be heartbroken and what on Earth are we bitching for? Yes, I believe in freewill but not as a little parlor game to play around with the notion of an omniscient, omnipotent god in a veiled attempt at discrediting the belief's of those who pray to such a god. That's just rude and unnecessary. P.S. I'm not on your case, but that of all of the bitter atheists out there. They need to lighten up, not believing in God is a legitimate belief too, propz too all of my brethren and sistren! God fearing and God jeering alike. Stop baggin on each others beliefs. It's petty. 3. Yes to freewill. Yes to gettin' some no0kie. Yes to life. Yes to kids after they're out of diapers (until they're teenagers then yes again when they're out of the house.) 4. No to religious persecution in either or any direction. No to silly mind games that revolve around discrediting another's god. Religion isn't about what's wrong about what's right for them. It's about what's right for you. 5. No. It would have been a simple matter to make them do so, but they do not. 030719 ... soup for the poor My questions are not thought provoking and I apologize. They are just basic questions that i find interesting to ask. 1. what is the best thing about being married? 2. what are your kids names/ages? 3. what is the best quote you have ever made on blather? 4. what is the best quote you have ever heard anyone else make? ((Not necessarily on blather, of course)) 5. what has been your favourite place to travel? I really like/agree with your answer to ferrets questions. Excellent. I am a simple person. . .or maybe I am just feeling more simple at the moment. I choose to ask simple questions. 030719 ... ashmanzhou why doth the world be? if the world truley beath why doth people believe in that which is not? if that which is