i_am_searching_for_people_with_souls eyedream My mission is to find people who are like myself. Dreamers. If you are a dreamer, tell me. 030508 ... jane i be a dreamer 030508 ... Rowbes raises his hand. 030508 ... shel silverstein if you are a wisher come in 030508 ... stork daddy i wish i had a soul. first thing i'd do if i had one is save it. 030508 ... eyedream please find me : eyedream 030508 ... second-string string what_would_you_save_if_your_soul_was_on_fire ? 030508 ... ellie No I sold it. Damn me, copying the Simpsons all the time. 030508 ... niska every person here is a dreamer. otherwise, this place wouldn't be real enough for them to frequent. 030508 ... willy wonka and the birdmad factory "we are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams" 030508 ... kermit someday we'll find it. the rainbow connection. 030508 ... dB y' know. sometimes I wonder if there really is a god. I wish I knew all the facts. Much to tired to think And my head is looking back from a cliff. Sometimes I see myself and I don't see any body in there. 030509 ... shivers i luv shell silverstien!! i had three of his books when i was younger. i am a dreamer, i sit staring into space, dreaming. about everything 030509 ... eyedream Where the sidewalk ends. O beautiful Dreamers. 030509 ... no reason ask him. he has souls. two, in fact. including mine. and i don't know where he's taken it. 030509 ... User24 I dream of a world where everything is just how it should be. I find it in the local park. The trees grow, leaves die, and fall to the ground, the energy is re-absorbed and so the leaf becomes part of the tree again. Perfection in simplicity. It's only when things get complicated that the perfection breaks down. Of course, the deeper you look into simplicity, the more infinitely complex it becomes. That's why I love nature and chaos_theory. 030509 ... megan that's_my_soul_up_there list of people with souls i, also 030509 ... ferret hey! i got me one of those! i waste it though, i should be pouring it out into writing lyrics, but i don't. 030509 ... people with soil I got poop on my thumb once 030509 ... silentbob we are the stuff of masturbational fantasies 030510 ... angry j. nice one! ...like that CUNTWISE kx THE FUCKFACE in the whorehouse! 030510 ... eyedream People who are not dreamers are always mystified and attracted to those who are. We are all in the same dark pod. 030510 ... girl_jane I think most people are born with souls. We just have to hold on the them by recognizing them, by embracing them, and by loving them. 030510 ... Casey I hope I have one. I can't tell. I need something like a Careing Meeter from the Care Bears. 030510 ... Casey wow I'm a great speller 030510 ... jane bad_things_i_have_done snickers 030511 ... screwing for virginity i am a dreamer and a watcher. it is fun to combine the two, but problems arise when i mix the two up. 030811 ... x nightmares are dreams. that makes me a dreamer. 030811 ... 123 Im searching for my car keys... God damm it! 030811 ... misstree doesnt *really* eat babies i disagree with girl_jane above. i believe that newborns are born without souls as most people define them, and as they learn and grow and develop, they develop human souls. i have a vague idea that by age 5 or so the shape of the soul has mostly been determined, and by about 10 it's fully grown. souls are not static; a soul changes much over the course of someone's life, and everyone has an essence that fits the definition of a soul. the nature of that essence is what varies most from person to person; i think that most of the world lives like blades of grass, and doesn't even realize it... but many many others flesh out this prarie. i mean no offense with my opinion of children, and would never harm one any more than i would harm a kitten, so if you're thinking of getting huffy, well, i can't stop you but you're silly. 030811 ... Dafremen I am a dreamer too, eyedream. Here I am...now what? 030811 ... oldephebe *punches validating dreamer card into slot ((kerploink!)) I'm constanly having this war with myself, the ruthles business mind pitted against the place that informs my Art, the place that drives me to my knees in prayer for a fallen soul, a fallen world, the side that enables me to unconditionally love my children sometimes I abhor the business/aristotlean side - and other times I am filled with self loathing for that overtly emotional side - mtree - dug what you wrote I hate the concessions I choose to make, my heart is with embattled dissidents throughout the world making the argument for enlightened humanity the other part of me is capable of pursuing the perfection of the business ideal to sometimes the negation of another - the abacus cannot be argued with - the numbers don't lie - the calculus of business is an implacable grim artififact. The wolf against the wolf. The kind heart is crushed. I once gave a lecture to a consortium of non-profits (it was a soft/hard sell to establish a distributive network in a lucrative market that would be uncontested) I said it with a gleam in my eye and with the force of a thousand suns in this quasi-like sermonizing style "...we believe commerce and compasion can coexit in the heart, we believe profit can be poured into the holes that mar our streets our checkbooks, into the holes in the church roof - believe it can suture some the seams this neighboorhood, save a few children worthy of being saved - I want you to consider the words I've spoken here today.. blah blah.." I think I actually believed about one quarter of what I was saying. I keep taking these sabbaticals from the business world, to purge myself of its toxicity. there are too few dreamers in this world and oh how many fathoms deep do I yearn for a life to be free to pursue my heart and to have my Art embraced, validated I guess I'm still trying to figure out how to be .. 030811 ... smurfus rex I thought I had a soul once, but it turns out it was just a James Brown album. 030811 ... oldephebe james brown was a funky prohpet/teacher but I never knew what the hell he was saying. Masio! Can I gitta Owwww! Feel good! 030812 ... Dafremen That time is coming phebe, when you will have that freedom. Hopefully you're not too old to still be around after the dust(and silt) settles. 030812 ... oldephebe yea there's an aug in the air - yeah and I'm wondering if there are enough people who realize that unscratchable itch in their souls cannot be quelled by a flight into exteriorization - and some may say the flight into fables won't save you (or me the rhetorical we) but ah let me climb down from this cozy little place, maybe it's time to test the waters - maybe. really diggin what you have to share Daf ... 030812 ... oldephebe yep 030812 ... Dafremen I have a question to ask you phebe. Very strange things are afoot my friend. Someone mentioned you today. Email me. 030812 ... oldephebe In the days of old the wise man or prophet or elder would take a rams horn and use it as a clarion call, to assemble the tribe in times of crisis, or to impart prophesy, or to test the winds of war or something like that. Daf do your thing. I'm a simple man and I follow a simple faith. My path is not your path, although who knows they may intersect as all things probably will one day. I will go to the treasure of Light and be fed out of that. We must all watch what we choose to lift up in our lives, that is not a negation or a thinly veiled editorial, or criticism of anyone's apprehension of a Last Day's scenario. I will take a holy moment and lift up That which sustains me, That which brings the Essential into to clarity for me. For the moment I think I will be abandoning this estuary of conjecture. Be a beacon, light your fires, draw the moths to those illuminating flames follow the truth for you that resides in your heart. Yeah sure it sounds kind of platitudinous, but sometimes the simplest truths reside in cliche, platitudes or aphorisms. ... 030812 ... Dafremen I still have a question for you. I hope that won't keep you away from your granite hearths and castle ramparts and what-not long, but would you mind? (Oh and the fasting thing wasn't an invitation to join the cult, just a strange coincidence that you would mention it when I was thinking about it. I've decided wait until we can get Simon and Garfunkel to do a benefit concert to organize the ol' posse of light cult and competition billiards club.) 030812 ... oldephebe Nice one ask away 030812 ... niska well, stay off train 48 then... 030813 ... niska oh, i thought you said brains. either way stay off the train. 030813 ... Death of a Rose just because 031022 ... someone quietly sits in the corner of the room, sighing about fading dreams. 031027 ... oldephebe i feel you someone.. i feel you.. 031027 ... Lemon_Soda Dreams. Dream. The substance of reality. The stuffs that make our world the way that it is. The concepts, the joys, the loves and the sorrows. That swirling mass of color or the mists that give shape but no form. The shadows we weave into the tangible. The building blocks of us. The something that tells us somebody. Infinity in our heads limited only by our own convitctions and fears. I am a dreamer. I am a king. I am a child of a god. As we will it, so it shall be. As we dream it, so shall it be. As we build it, so shall it be. Founts of desire and pits of despair. Thresholds are created and walked and sometimes dwelt within forever. We press our hand on the wall and feel its deceptively smooth, orderly cold surface. We look at its all-grey, the boundaries that came before. We walk along it, forever looking for a door. But some, not most, but some simply close their eyes and walk through. The other side watrms them and they open their eyes again. Amidst the swirling color and formlessness of their own heart they grasp the shadow stuffs of dreams and in an instant a world is born. We are dreamers. We are kings and Queens. We are the children of a god. That spark of divinity is in you. It embers and sparks. Will you feed it? Or allow it sputter and die? Dream. 031027 ... oldephebe very very powerful Semon Soda..in answer to your question..twilight is growing tall within my chest..so i guess as soon as i get up off of my ass and stop this ooo dark and disturbed soul kind of crap..we'll..er i'll get beyond this..inertia and all that..yeah slip its surly bonds..blech.. very very powerful though what you wrote 031027 ... oldephebe Lemon Soda..my bad..mispelled your name 031027 ... ya morons Good luck finding souls in Blather... If it's favoritism you're looking for, this is where to find it. Not much luck on real poetry, either. 031027 ... phony more like poetica shmoetica 031027 ... The Reaper me. 031027 ... misstree i love it when people criticize the lack of worthy contribution, but also utterly fail to contribute. really warms my heart. 031027 ... magicforest ya_morons, I don't want you to come back here. You don't belong here. I made this for people with souls, if you can't find souls on blather than you are blind. 031027 ... oldephebe sometimes the idle and untalented will just spout vituperation just to evoke some kind of response..even if its negative at least someone is responding to them..negative attention..it's like spiking the punch and then laughing craven and alone in a corner..and here i am giving this miserable individual what he/she so equisitiely desired..blech .. 031027 ... phil I've got about 14. 031027 ... ill i wonder i wish i ponder i fish how many many worlds are inside of me? i am a dreamer there are more than a human life has time to explore and you, you dream as well what else is there to talk about? 031028 ... karl the weed i have a soul- believe it or not. and i am very much a dreamer. 031028 ... oE okay so..in way of clarification i'm only saying that sometimes folk will just mischievously post a provocative statement just to jostle the hive of bees..hope that clears it up ... 031029 ... nisus so no Buddhists then, eh? Though I guess the concept of anatman is a Buddhist philosopher thing and not so widespread in practice. 031029 ... oldephebe could you expound upon that? i'm really into letting myself be broadened by all the streams of enligtenment.. 031030 ... nisus The three marks of existence in Buddhism are impermanence, suffering, and anatman (with different possible spellings in English, but literally "no soul" or "no self.") I believe the concept of intrinsic soulessness is fairly rare in religions, but it is an awfully interesting idea. 031101 ... Syrope i'm not just looking for people with souls, i'm looking for people who know they have souls and realize how fragile souls are...that way i know mine won't be in danger without you, blather, today's emotions would be the scurf of yesterdays :) 031210 ... magicforest i love you 031210 ... smurfus rex how would I know if I had a soul, anyway? It seems like that's a similar question to 'how would I know I exist?' Cartesian logic would answer 'I think, therefore I am'. Is it possible to extend that logic to the question of souls? Or are souls immune to the processes of logic and reason? Can the concept of soul be the complement to the concept of being? If existence is tied to logic and reason, could soul be tied to faith and emotion? Could I then argue that, because I believe, because I feel, I must possess a soul? I believe I could. :) 031210 ... Raven I dream, I fly, whisper, and scream. I look beyond the words and see the newest things. We listen and create, we dance and fall. We do it all upon a pillow, unlike most of them all. Standing on a chair or under the sea, Thangs are going to envision as they will always be. Denying yourself of truths, and fighting off the words makes a person poorer, and doesn't let them be heard. Dream the dreams you want, and let them be just so, but hide not behind normalcy, let them flow along just so. 031223 ... minnesota_chris I think I am looking for spirited_people instead. 031223 ... celestias shadow good luck I have a feeling you're going to need it 031225 ... cupcake you should look for cheerleaders! we're the most spirited people around!!! 031226 ... endless desire are you a cheerleader, cupcake? 031226 ... minnesota_chris I think spirited_people are people who would let public_opinion and "normal" behavior go to hell, and even risk their lives, in order to fulfill their dreams and ideals. Most of the cheerleaders I knew were queens: they ran the school, and treated everybody else like serfs. And "school spirit" was another way of pushing people down: if you didn't go to the rallies, and wear your school colors, and talk the right way, you just weren't behaving correctly. Whereas those in the spirited_people category might just abandon cheerleading if it meant doing something nobler. Or defend the school jerk, even if some cheerleaders disliked them. 031227 ... oE thanx nisus - i think we can achieve a state of soulessness..or at least be so hammered and smelt out of shape and substance..to have brokered and broken our vows..and eschewed our ethics until every act is but a pick gleaning and gouging the gold from the vein.. 031227 ... endless desire can't a person be both? i at least hope i am... or maybe i'd rather just be part of the spirited_people but i know myself and i know i don't give a damn about school spirit but still really enjoy cheering. i don't know any of the football jocks but still enjoy cheering them on. fuck, if i cared that i was a cheerleader i'd be just as bad as the stereotype... worry about what everyone thinks of me. 031228 ... oldephebe cheer leaders in high school or college never really registered on my radar..well there was one..but she actually had a soul,some depth, even though she was the best looking and had extravagant proportions..she was one of the most spirited and spirit filled persons i've met..a really pleasant personality..and she seemed totally oblivious to her beauty..but yeah most times when i catch a wiff of vanity and arrogance i just dismiss the person..not worth much to me.. 031228 ... t I think everybody went to that high school. 031228 ... endless desire OK there is nothing wrong with cheerleaders. i know each and everyone of them at my school and only about a handful of them have that snobby thing going on. trust me, it makes me sick. but i wouldn't stayed with them if they were all horrible. ok a few of the girls are really melodramatic and just spread problems where ever they go. a lot of them don't understand norz and i. but none of them are cruel people (varsity excluded) and most of them are done with caring how they look because they've already given up on themselves. i don't know why i am defending these people. but i mean...it's just a goddamn stereotype. just like...not all smart people are nerds. not all jocks are stupid. not all girls are sensitive. not all boys like cars. 031228 ... misstree see: freak_out find yourself a nazi with a serious chemical imablance. (don't know if he was a pedophile or not, never asked.) ask him why he believes how he does. if he's the one i've poked at the brain of, he'll actually have some very intelligent, if exceedingly strange, answers. listen, and honestly try to see things from his perspective. i'm not saying to abandon your own; but hold two perspectives in your mind, each as true as the other. if this treatment were extended to each, i think we would have quite a different world. wiser. if i can swap philospohy with a nazi, you can say five words to a cheerleader before deciding she's whatever you've decided she is. don't eschew people as groups. wait until they piss you off individually. the only way to get the gold is to sift through a whole lotta crud on a whole lotta mountains. 031229 ... oldephebe perhaps..but you see i'll acknowledge that it may be a moral or human failing of mind to hold others to an unrealistic moral code/identity..maybe..but i don't have the time to sift through the dung and glean the gold with some folk..it smells too bad and frankly i resent the importunations upon my time, my emotions my spirit that such an odious put perhaps potentially illuminating..and maybe..although the idea to me is cellularly odious..- under taking would be broadening..bah! pretty pink poison go and paint the sky with it and let the next breeze wash it clean..i do not think that there ever was an end to epoch of darkness that crept into the german heart and evoked those ativistic echoes and legend and rune stones and awakened long slumbering gods..and a madman was shrewd and evil enough to exploit what was harbored in the Teutonic Stone chambers..i'v been blown way off course..i'll commend you for your open mindedness mtree but it seems that i can be as absolutist when it comes to issues of morality or humility or at least how i construe the ideals of virtue and self-abnegation and humility. The ragged sacerdotal cloak is not for everyone..hell i've been running from it's inaugural conscriptions to the cause of spirit and light and hope since i was 14..i've seen up close the sores of the face of ecclesiastical ambition and it sickened me..these men/women of god..competing out their flesh for the cause of Christ! Competing for the pride of place and office. It continues to sicken me to the core..vanity and arrogance..unprovoked, unmerited..but this is me this is what i hold within myself..it does not neccessarily constitute a refutation or negation of someone else who holds sovriegn themself in their head(grammar).. yeah..to sing the paens of promise and power..to call forth the old ancient animosities and rally everyone 'round the ragged flag of fallen glory...genocide has been wreathed inextricably in the fabric of america..just ask any native american or the ancestors of african americans..ask the indentured servants..ask the descendants of thousands of asians who perished out west building railroad tracks..ask the women of the servant classes who were raped by the gentry..ask the women who were trapped in a life of servitude to their spouses..upon the bone and marrow and whipped backs of other races the ligature of the american industrial and expansive juggernaut was built..so yeah america..we're not off the hook and nor can we so indignantly tsk tsk the tirades and gyrations of others cultures and despots so easily.. gotten way off course here..must be the fever.. 031229 ... RIC "it may be a moral or human failing of MINE..not mind.." 031229 ... endless desire well i just hope the whole world isn't as selfish as oldephebe or else i doubt anyone likes me at all. instead, i hope that i few random people decided one day to look past all the cultural shit they've accumulated since birth and see people for who they are, not what they do. i always held skites to a higher standard past the typical judgements made in everyday life...the same standard i hold myself to at least while im here...but it seems in oE's case, i set the standard far too high. surprisingly unfortunate since i've always held him in such high regard, but it seems we are all just a waste of his precious time and energy to understand. excuse while i go practice trying on my cheer skirt and doing sexy jumps for the jocks across the street...you see oE, that's all i really care about at all. 031229 ... misstree though i do not presume to speak for 'phebe himself, the sense that i got is that he's not neccesarily dismissing people in groups, and in fact spent some time talking about the danger in that, but simply said that he doesn't enjoy going up to the elbows in shit to try to find the gold in individual people... which i can agree with, and do practice quite a bit myself... i dismiss people on a regular basis due to lack of time or interest after the first brainlick, and have found myself later regretting it on occasion... but to continue with the mining metaphor, there are things that you look for, qualities in the stone, that suggest the presence of preciousness and may indicate that someone or someplace is worth futher investigation... again not meaning to presume, but i believe 'phebe is saying he's not going to take the time to look for the gold in every single human being... if you consider yourself to not have any of the indicators of a gold vein... well, i couldn't say, licking people on blather is much different than wandering around in the rockies... we get to travel straight into each mountain... and watch yourself missy, you're almost starting to show signs of snippiness, and i don't like the competition. (look, a joke! who put that there?) 031229 ... oldephebe well..endless aside from the chasms of gender and cultural, ethnic, economic experiences that separate us..I still think you're a pretty fine lass..in a moment of unguarded pique..(probably the flu or fever..and yeah i gotta stop whining about it..cause everyone's got it..)I will totally accept your right to be dismayed by some of my assertions..maybe when the years have smelted your heart out of shape..and i do mean years and not merely of the tempests of hormonal or pubescent gyrations..which are normal..years of digging into those mines iwth friend and stranger, with family with lover..and revealing the whole aching ugliness of yourself..your devotion your dreams, your hand held out to them..and then to have it defecated upon and smeared into your face..'bout 15 or 20 years of that..and maybe you dismay will temper..because of my generous and loyal personality i have often been best friends since 12 up until quite recently with charismatic and powerful people..see they were drawn by my almost absolute abscence of a bs quotient..i didn't appear to need them or want them..nor was i trying to trade in social favors or any kind of quid pro quo..i'm a fairly mild mannered inocuous appearing kind of a guy..soft spoken but very passionate and extremely loyal as a friend..and folks through the years have found my advise and friendship beneficial to them. But all things like rivers run their course and eventually peter out or flow into larger tributaries or become polluted..whatever..i thank mtree for her insight..and endless i did say that this is just me and not neccessarily a negation or refutation of someone else who holds themself sovriegn. So cheer and spread your glorious spirit and beauty within and without. Why worry what a curmudgeonly blatherskite may or may not think of some fold who may appear outwardly vain or arrogant..but who hold reservoirs within them. Not everyone is constituted the same. And for some folk to walk the world as i do would amount to an invitation to be subjugated, violated, exploited..yeah i get that. So here I am, me and my humility and harsh judgements..and yeah what one percieves can be injurious to them..and yeah myopia can lead to a kind of misanthropy..sure. When I reach the stage when I can no longer be taught by the young and old, by..(and hey i'm still weeping over the funeral boquets to my long dead innocence..and i weep for my child and for all children and adults who hold a purity inside of them amidst the rot and decay of this world..but yeah this is not about feeding from a deep pool of grief or is it?..hmm..thanyou for sharing your thoughts with me endless..I honestly am sorry if my words offend you or dismay you..really because your words here sometimes fall so softly, so gently upon the ragged plain of my heart..i sense your tumult and pain and I really do sometimes say a quiet prayer for you..your words will not change that..maybe you could say one for me..you kinda like ask that i could step into the heart of charity..instantaneously when i encounter a sand paper soul..and maybe that my words and thoughts and actions be borne out of that place of gentle, quiet confidense and egoless empathy.. thankyou mtree..i thought you'd be the one who would bring the hammer down..and perhaps you still will but your words as usual..wait..endless sometimes my heart lurches when i hear the music of desolation, comfortless despair in your words..and i want to STOP it..stop all the worlds ache..but this is an impossible thing..okay so yeah mtree i can't put into words right now what i want to say..but..your words take me up the stair of spirals stone and enable me to clasp the tongue of that Bells cresting a wreath of clouds...like all the pieces falling into place..even sometimes when i don't agree with you..not sure quite what it is..but..enough gushing.. later, 031229 ... endless desire oh well im sorry. i must say i jumped to some strange exaggeration. it was just really my anger towards feeling judged all the time for one thing or another. people look at me and the things i do and another simple things they can judge without bothering to delve further, and they decide things. they decide im a bitch and don't care about them...that im stuck up or an idiot or some slut. and as angry as i get at myself sometimes, i still think deep down that i have a good heart and truly love people. no one bothers to look at those things though, do they? assume assume assume i wonder how blatherskites would treat each other if we were all in a store but didn't realize who was who. would i dismiss someone based on appearance? age? attitude? and what would they think of me? it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter. it shouldn't matter what other people think of me. i_am_me. just because someone assumes i am one thing, doesn't mean i_am. i dont know. if you ever see some stuck up cheerleader...assume that there's maybe another side to her. and well, if there isn't, what can go wrong when you assume the best? --well i suppose as long as you dont do anything stupid --who has time to be nice when it's so much easier to just keep walking? --it's sad to think that we all just keep walking. --i hate it here. people just move so fast...they don't take two seconds to appreciate life. --freeways help me remember how little everyone cares. though i suppose i should follow my own advice and see the beauty in life and people rather than just the faults. oE, you aren't selfish. you are patient and caring so some idiot teenager who doesn't know a thing about life or what she's doing here. misstree is a saint for putting up with me. i don't mean to be so rash and angry...hah maybe it's a phase. i hate feeling so worthless...feeling like a waste of time. if eyedream is searching for people with souls, i don't figure she wants someone who doesn't know where her heart lies. what she's living for. where she's going. im running in circles. but am i less of a person just because i cheer for some crowd once a week? maybe that's just what im afraid of. 031229 ... sometimes_she rambles on for ridiculous purposes. 031229 ... oE it's all gravy on the gravel endless..like RO or DOAR said or typed to you..you will get through this..you will..really..i grew up with four..well three the oldest was in Sr. highschool when i was 8 or something, so yeah growing up with sisters and a god sister about the same age i got kinda intimate with the whole mad brain swirl to the bottom and then back on top again thing..so..you'll get through it..i didn't know you were a cheerleader..if i did i probably would not have commented..but i guess i was so into what i wanted to say i didn't think about the potential effect of my words..(which i usually try to do)..so keep cheering endless... peace... 031229 ... mekeria ...apologies? Is this what this space is for? For us to accidentally offend, then repent? Blather is a place for us to stroke each other's egos, and kiss each other's asses? There's a lot of respect - that's wonderful, But why apologize for the way you think? Feel? React? We can respect each other, while we respect each other's ieals. 031230 ... oldephebe i'm secure enough to apologize if someone is injured or offended at my words, because that was is my intent..i think the world of endless and respect what she has to say even if years separate us..she's a talented young woman who is going through some things..and ah yeah..pretty much not my intent to offend anyone really..it dosesn't negate me to say that..there are occasions though when it is my intent to be offensive..but i see no need to overtly indulge that side of myself here..there is no rubric, or governing ethose here in blather..do your thing..and everyone else will do theirs..i guess ... .. . 031230 ... RIC should have said "i'm secure enough to apologise for the effect my words have on someone..being injurious and offensive..that is not my intent.." 031230 ... endless desire oh oE, have your opinions. i suppose we all have touchy issues and that just happened to be one of mine. thank_you for being so kind about it all. i almost can't believe it. 031230 ... magicforest Since oE is doing the nice thing, I can be the bad cop: desirue, you are being self-deprecating and stop it. If you think a soul is knowing yourself and your path and your dreams with certainty than I guarantee you that nobody has a soul. I'm going to stop ranting now before someone asks me to define "soul" because in honesty I really can't. It's whatever makes you...you. Dreamerishness. Something deeper than this superficial society. Something fragile and glowing and beautiful. Believe me, des, you have a soul. 031230 ... minnesota_chris too many words... attention fading... losing consciousness... 031230 ... magicforest You're sort of doppy, Chris. 031230 ... . dopey 031230 ... unhinged you won't find them in youngstown 031230 ... blah-ze if you can't find something, manufacture it. it may not give you the same satisfaction, and moulding small children into your image that fits 'people with souls' may be somewhat perverted, but they will thank you one day. one day! i tried not to do anything wrong for a day, smiled to everyone, was all like the sunshiny_people. it worked, it looked like i had a soul. and it was oddly fulfilling, even if it didn't fulfil my personal needs. 031230 ... oldephebe fake it till you make it.. aside from that..how are things with you blahze..kinda miss our cathartic couch sessions.. still haven't gotten around to reading jonne dunn..but i will.. peace.. 040115 ... jenny enny dots I am the very definition of a dreamer. More than a do-er unfortunately. Full of ideas and random inspirations. It's so nice to be around people that are proud of living in a dream world. If it were not for my day job, I believe I would be completely out of touch with reality. That, and my relationships, keep me in balance. 040125 ... oE sing on song out sister.... 040126 ... divine madness a dreamer I may be a lunatic in the eyes of others or a soul swimming in the depths of a mind... searching, wondering, it's all very boggling... 040127 ... hsgatincamail i am a dreamily empathizing soul. spirit of unconditional love 040614 ... annon whoops 040910 ... ofsuch i think i misplaced mine somewhere if someone happens to find it please do let me know 040910 ... somebody i'd like to believe i'm a dreamer but i'm not sure. what would make me a dreamer? the thing is is have the world view of a dreamer but i never actually dream. i wish this world was a lucid dream. you never know, it could be. 040920 ... confused0666@hotmail.com i'd like to believe i'm a dreamer but i'm not sure. what would make me a dreamer? the thing is is have the world view of a dreamer but i never actually dream. i wish this world was a lucid dream. you never know, it could be. 040920 ... confused0666@hotmail.com sorry for that little double post. 040920 ... magicforest if you are curious, confused, go to: i_am_searching_for_people_with_souls_ii 041114 ... suicidalchinadoll what of people with souls that die again every morning? 041114 ... incredible_bulk i have a soul you have a found me 041118 ... magicforest everyone dies a little the last thing every night loves her dreamers 041119 ... incredble_bulk death is creative destruction of live. 041119 ... Lemon_Soda define soul, please. Everyone dreams, thus everyone is a dreamer. 041119 ... missionary My definition of Soul: Mind + Will + Emotions (Your Conscious Entity) The bridge between body and spirit 041119 ... magicforest If you are curious about my definition of a dreamer, I suggest: I_AM_SEARCHING_FOR_PEOPLE_WITH_SOULS_II never stops 041119 ... magicforest thanks oldephebe 041119 ... pete my soul was in better shape before it was cursed with a body, or neoplatonism in a bottle 041119 ... oldephebe If I said you're welcome, would that smear my offering with the blood and vomit of cloying sentiment? my gratitude for the things you have shared with us here? Of course you are welcome and I do not presume to know the hearts of men/women. But if someone were looking for you, a reasonable representation thereof I think they'd find that fire that feeds your soulwater streams. I thought that I'd lost my soul but then I encountered poeple like you and ed and unhinged, mtree, pd, jane, doar, RO, dafremen (can't ever forget Daf) the oracular Z, U24 and so so many many more..so..maybe humanity can be ultimately saved by everyone being brave enough, vulnerable enough to stand naked before one another maybe if we start with small steps..small beginnings..maybe humanity has a chance. Maybe we can learn to project our imaginations beyond the self. I have the keys to end my self imposed isolation..I guess I'm just not brave enough to use them yet. ... 041119 ... oE And if we ascribe labels to everything, will that make the dead thing in our chests live again? ... 041119 ... oldephebe at this point i don't know if i have the keys, or if the isolation is a function of genetic predisposition, or atrophy or inertia or simply people growing beyond ME, someone recently referred to me as a drama queen...someone on this site and the truth of the matter is that it stung, it stung a little too deeply..because maybe it's true..i mean the queen part i don't get but the drama..the being so self,,sometimes you need to sit in the certainty, the sertain truth of a thing and feel it's sting, w/o the blow being cushioned. So i'll say to that person, yeah you said a true thing, and perhaps it is this peristant ache, this throb this yawp this...so i want to say thank you for not sparing my oh so delicate daffodil sensibilities and challenging me to buck up and be a man...whatever the hell THAT is supposed to be. You see twilight, twilight is literally growing tall within my chest and it's starting to not just choke out the light but it's stealing it's choking the...how many of us are brave enough or curious enough or just so out of everything that they can return Deaths gaze? How many of us go looking for IT? not by walking into traffic or doing daredevil stunts but i mean during the magic time..during the time when humans get to peer into the world that sorrounds us...you ever looked right at that looming luminescent being or entity that painted our dreams and then perhaps out of some rule or agreement with god or whoever flits out of view when it catches you looking at it, because it just isn't your time yet? it's just toying with you, just priming you for when it is time just seeing what kind of GAME you got. I've started to look for IT you know? I have these horrible dreams sometimes and the fear locks up my voice and i'm rigid with it...but still i want to look it in its eye you know and say TAKE IT!!! whatever it is you want my soul/spirit belong to GOD but the rest, that spark, the freaking electricity that animates this body... i am searching for the quiet death of this quixotic flame w/in so i can be pragmatic and deal and deal and do what it is for those that depend upon me...no deamspires no broken heart torch songs sung in a club at the piano with a few pairs of large brown eyes staring raptly into mine, and her thoughts her will her hopes are melted into to mine in this emotional frission kind of a thing...nah...i gotta just deal for a while ... 050224 ... . . 050518 ... two flying saucers and a penguin so you lost your Keys? there are other options. ever try melting and re-fashioning it? dreamer, and you do dream. but do you dare? what are the consequences? *to start thinking...perhaps in a direction which will help you* i dream too. don't forget who you are. 050609 what's it to you? who go blather from