blather_mixed_tape silentbob Ok. Why doesn't everyone who wants to be involved sign up and i'll try and make it work this time. Email me your names and addresses, i'll add the first song, send it along, and that person can ask me for the next address or name or whatever. You add one song, not too long, don't take up too much space. then pass it along. Qualify: people who will try and do it fast and send it along People who can afford postage People who have functioning materials with which to record a song onto a tape, either from a record, or cd, or tape, or your computer, whatever. as long as you can record one song onto a tape, send it along, and i guess we will keep going until we run out of tape. then the person who ends it starts over, maybe. but anyway. if you want to be involved in a blather jourey mixtape, i'm thinking i can get my ass together now, so send addresses to bobbyevers@hotmail.com or if you want, number yourselves on this page and i can keep track of it, or you can keep track of it, and when you get the tape, email whoever is after you. yeah. we'll figure it out. cool. 030629 ... silentbob and if your addresses change, or you dont want to do it anymore, LET US KNOW and lets not repeat what happened with the journey book(s) or whatever 030629 ... User24 why don't we do a blather_mixed_mp3? it'll make it a lot more accessible to everyone.. 030629 ... again I could compile a list of free software, provide some free webspace for it, allow ppl to up/download their mp3s 030629 ... silentbob YOu can do that. But i'm doing a mixtape, because the mp3 thing isn't more accessible to me. this was the downfall of the original blather mixtape. it got turned into sending one cd that everyone would burn one song to and send along, and the claim was that its easier. meanwhile, i don't own my own computer, therefore don't have a cd burner, and im not sure i'd be able to find someone who could burn just one song, and even if i could, are you able to listen to cds that aren't finalized? that would be the ideal situation, being able to listen to the thing as you add on to it. same with the journey book. if you couldn't see what other people had put, it'd be kidn of sad. so feel free to do an mp3 thing, but im looking for people who want to do a tape thing. 030629 ... a question: what happens when the mixtape completes its journey? does everyone get a copy, or are the tape's complete contents listed here or something? 030629 ... silentbob Both could definately be arranged 030629 ... silentbob Perhaps when the tape is finished someone could be assigned to make an mp3 page and a downloadable version could be created. I'm planning on using a two hour tape, so that could make a double disc thing... if one wanted to burn them to cd. hazzah 030629 ... 6am i know part of the fun is to see what kinda of weird/cool song unknown to you will be on the tape. but will the mix tape have a general rule like no songs from a choir of cats or someone singing when they were a kid which will be sentimental and all but it will prolly suck and ruin the mix tape. 030629 ... User24 good point, silentbob.. I hadn't thought that people wouldn't have PCs (chill out, man!) 030630 ... bespeckled count me in ... and bobby, i'll also email you. I won't lose the tape, or change my address and forget all about the other people on the list - i swear! 030630 ... carlita i'm in! 030630 ... silentbob its cool user24 ya'll give me your addresses or what-evs!! come now. so far i just have bespeckled the only rule i reccommend making is if you KNOW it will ruin the tape, dont put it on there. just put something you feel will both represent you will and complement the tape. So yeah. send address....NOW! 030630 ... Freak ive recreated charlies mix tape from the perks_of_being_a_wallflower 030630 ... User24 i would give my address but, a) my tape player doesn't work b) I'm very lazy and would proablly lose the tape, or just forget about it c) the postage would be quite a lot. one day, I'll join in with one of these 'real life' blather projects, I think they're really inventive and refreshing respect to everyone that's trying to make something happen 030701 ... silentbob Freak: i also, have a copy. i think a lot of people do User24: postage wont be that much. its not going to be like the blather journey book where im going to put it in a case that weighs like twenty pounds so the postage is seven dollars and then it ends up that the person you're sending it to isnt even there anymore and you're thinking to yourself, "Why did i just spend seven dollars on something no one is ever going to see again?" Again: whoever wants a part of it, should email me their address. im organizing a list. 030701 ... Mahayana postage wasnt that much with the blather book (about 3-something) and it wasnt "put in a case that weighs like twenty pounds so the postage is seven dollars" "and then it ends up that the person you're sending it to isnt even there anymore and you're thinking to yourself, "Why did i just spend seven dollars on something no one is ever going to see again?" (and the book wasnt sent to someone who isnt there, the blather book (IS) around, we know who has it, its just a matter of when. [just wanted to clear up the false information just in case those doing the blather book, read this miss-information] 030701 ... silentbob ok, correct, the book i was referring to was the blather red book i was going to say it in the original message, then decided i didnt care that much 030701 ... ferret why don't we all just record our own mp3's (or whatever file type, the person who gets them all could change the file-type, there's progs out there for that) all to one person and then they could compile them all together into one big file. as for the people who don't have their own computers, we could burn it onto a bunch of cd's and people could request them if they don't have their own comps. make sense? and then we could have a page for people who DO have's comps to dl them. 030701 ... silentbob Yes. You can do that. And we're also going to do a mixtape. 030701 ... silentbob Surely what you're doing would be easier, and more convenient for people online but this is so we can get something in the mail, and await something, and look forward to sending something, and contributing something that we can touch, so we can have a hard copy of it. Why do the blather journey book when its easier to just make a webpage on the internet devoted to blather? Why write each other letters when its easier, faster, and you can use spell check in an email? Because its more personal when you can see someones handwriting. because its more personal when you're listening to the tape and you can hear a click where the person who recorded it pressed stop. because its more personal to see what stickers they might have added. thats why 030701 ... karl the weed i have an even better idea. why dont we do both? because mine is on the computer already, and i couldnt record it on a tape (techno, btw, does it have to be vocal?) so the people who want to send it on the net can send it, and the people who want to record it on a tape can do that, and at the end, everyone gets a copy. i also think everyone should send a few bucks (like $2 apiece) so that way it will cover the cost of making a bunch of tapes and cds (depending on how many people participate) 030701 ... karl the weed or maybe ill just send mine with the tape in the form of a cd. 030701 ... karl the weed also i dont have a tape recording thingy 030701 ... silentbob Yes. You can do that we will do both. this has been stated before. now i just want addresses. if you have other ideas.....feel free to let blather know. 030701 ... hey now! personally, bobby, i was quite interested in participating. but since youre being such an ass to anyone who comes up with another idea, i think id rather not. youre making this way too negative. not that what i think matters much to you. youre much to arrogant to care what others think of you. 030701 ... hey now! yes im being negative myself. what a lil hypocrite i am. (just in case someone accuses me of being one.) 030701 ... karl the weed yeah, i agree. i agree with silentbob on that we should do the mail thing, but you dont have to be such an ass. 030701 ... Mahayana Perhaps, nobody will care, however ... I was interested in this project as well for the tactileness of it all, the nitty gritty sounds of a tape player reeling away, the communitiness of it all, the avant gardness, the low-grade [in the style of super 8 movements] but somewhere along the road i lost interest since the aire revolving this project became sort of controlling and negative, rather than cooperative and supportive ... i know things can get rather frustrating when they dont go the way we plan them to boy oh boy do I ever know this, however, people are just trying to brainstorm ideas, not bring down your project. work together this could be a beautiful project indeed, but these are just my opinions 030701 ... silentbob loves you um.... actually, that just made me feel really crappy, much crappier than i felt already, but you probably don't care, because that was your goal. i WANT people to do the things theyre talking about, the mp3 thing is a good idea. if someone did that i would request a copy of the cd becuase its cool. Im just jealous of the ideas and their technology and feel like a loser cuz im still stuck in the mixtape age. and i want people to do my idea too, and im afraid people will say, "Hey, that mp3 thing is a good idea" and forget the fact that a mixtape is going around too and right now i only have two addresses and am afraid that my idea isnt even going to work sorry im such an asshole, i was just really excited to try and do something outside of my every day existence and try to give something back to the blather community, in a way i understood and could make work. and i felt as though i held my tongue when i could have said a lot snottier things. so if the one time i don't cater to someones emotions makes me an asshole, than i'm really proud of myself that i haven't been doing it every chance i got. i was really snotty to user24 when he suggested that idea, but i felt bad and got his aim name and started talking to him, and i consider him one of my new friends. so... if that makes me an asshole.... i guess i'm pretty proud of myself it isn't worse than it is. and i was snotty to mahyana about the blather book, because i was seriously distraught when i realized the blather RED book was lost and it was pretty much my fault, and then all of that misunderstanding simply because i didnt put "red" in front of "book" so... if you want, i'll just go die now, and you can do your mp3 thing and forge further into the future where none of us actually communicates with any human characteristics, because its easier that way 030701 ... silentbob that was written, immediate after reading hey nows first comment, i didnt know anyone said anything afterwards. so yeah. apologies. 030701 ... silentbob loves you mahayana - i dont want this to come off sounding like...lame, or something (more lame than i already am) but i guess i just looked up to you, a lot for your dire organization skills in putting together the blather book and getting everyones names organized, and i wanted to be in charge of the tape. i wanted to handle it. and i didnt mean to shoot down others ideas, i wasnt trying to control other people, i was just trying to be in charge of the tape project. And i thought if their were other ideas they should be on another blathe, and maybe linked from the tape thing, not just right on it, as though the project would change. i think it would be great to do both projects, but not one instead of the other. which explains my defensiveness, but does not excuse it. it just seemed like people were like, "Wouldn't it be easier to do this?" and its true yes it would be, but i wouldnt be able to be part of it, i would just get a copy of the cd, or whatever. i just wanted to send a tape around, and when it was finished i intended on making copies for whoever requested it. i wasn't trying to be all... "I'm silentbob the arrogant asshole and i don't care what your ideas are." What would you have said if when you came up with the idea for the blather journey book someone said, "Why dont we do a webpage instead?" actually, there was a blather webpage, and that was kind of my thing...but, i certainly didnt intend for it to take the place of it. and then the hypothetical you says, "thats fine, you can do a webpage, we can do both, its cool." then someone else proposes, "Why dont we do both? wouldnt it be better to do both?" and then your'e like, "Didnt i just say we could do both like 2 days ago? Why all the posting?" yeah, ok, sorry im a dickhead 030701 ... ferret ok, yes, for the people who feel that they might lose the tape (me) or the people who don't have a tape recorder in the first place (me also), i thought that it would be easier if there was a webpage we could send the mp3's to, and then when the tape if filled up, somenoe could get it onto a computer and add the mp3's to it and then record it and send it around. or whatever 030701 ... hey now! sorry i was so harsh up there, bobby. i just think that just because youre feeling a little insecure about your project or having a bad day or whatever the problem is/was.. that doesnt give you or anyone the right to be mean to other people who are just suggesting more ideas. being negative wont get other people involved, but it will instead push people away and make them not want to do it. again, im very sorry for being so mean myself. i really dont think mahayana would care too much if people made more suggestions concerning the blather book. but i cant answer for her, obviously. thats just my opinion. wouldnt it be nice if the world was just full of mahayanas. wed all be so much nicer to each other. 030701 ... karl the weed i didnt mean to make you feel bad, its just that youre sort of snapping at us. and i would too, because this must be a pain. but i dont have a tape recorder, and i really want to be a part of it. to everyone: please try and join this, its a good idea. ferret, again, it isnt the same that way. you get to listen to it on the way, and stuff. im in. (if i can send the lone cd please) 030701 ... Mahayana silentbob, get back here man. we can do ALL of it! i LOVE the idea of a mixed TAPE ... nothing beats old school anything ... like records and their crackle and pop, i LOVE that noise, tapes are super-duper for the lightness of its function, tapes are attractive in this black and white photography way, the 80's feel, and for many other reasons, i could go on but i wont ... silentbob there is no reason to be jealous nor to feel like a loser... one technology is no better than another, they all have their attractive qualities and a place in our music's lives. the mixed taped age is awesome, it is a dieing art that one should feel honored to be apart of not ashamed. i actually idolize those of us that keep up its artform. to me there still is such a romanticness about a loved one making a mixted tape. perhaps, i think it is more so an issue of accessibility, most people dont have tape players anymore, much less a double deck to make copies, etc ... and we want people to do your idea as well, and even though you may be afraid people will say, "Hey, that mp3 thing is a good idea" and forget the fact that a mixtape is going around too... you just have to keep sight of your project and not give up on it... maybe more people will opt to do the mp3 project [b/c it is more immediate] but that doesnt negate the beauty of what you are doing... quantity doesnt equate quality, so maybe you only have 4-5 people doing the mixted tape ... so what ... that is just as wonderful, maybe even more so intimate ... and i so know about the fear of rejection, i worried about the same thing with the blather book [i worry about it everyday of my life ... i never feel good enough for anything], but i decided no matter how many people were going to do it, I would press on and it would mean as much to me if only 2 or 200 did it. your idea will work! even only with two addresses. i wont sugar-coat it did seem that you were coming off harshly and rather non-supportive as far as my perception of the whole project is concerned, but i guess i can understand the reasons why. keep your excitement no matter how big or small, you can and will contribute something to the blather community, and a mixted tape is just as important and contributive as any other project. nobody’s perfect but just as i wouldnt want someone to be harsh, cynical, or to shoot down my project i suppose it would only be fair that i wouldnt do that to someone else as well, and to be as gentle as possible. [i know its hard sometimes, believe me i know, but on those really shitty days i try to think about how awful i feel and how i wouldnt want to pass that on to anyone else] i wasnt upset about the blather comment i just wanted to make sure people didnt get the wrong idea. and i think its ok that the red blather book was lost, maybe it happened for a reason, think about it... maybe the new tenants found it and didnt know what to do with it, and maybe that one special gift made all the difference in the world to that person, maybe it cheered them up when they wanted to end their life, maybe it inspired them to do something beautiful in the world .. who knows ... and yes id feel this same way with the blue blather book as well, i wont lie ... hell yeah id be sad if i didnt get to see the beautiful contributions everyone gave, but in my heart i can close my eyes and see it all anyhow ... what will be will be, this project has taught me so much more than i had ever imagined, and it will never be a failure in my eyes no matter what, and this is something that noone can take away from me ever, and i would love to see you and everyone else have that same feeling as well no... none of us want you to go die, and yes maybe the mp3 project will get off however i still see value where most of us actually tries to communicate with each other in the best ways we know how to, because life is more beautiful that way and this communication involves mp3's, mixted tapes, maybe even a wooden rod being rubbed against the back of a notty wooden frog, through records burned on CD's, through the shake of needles in a bag .. etc .. there are more than one way to communicate... lets not give up on each other ... we are all creative, beautiful, intelligent people, lets be nice to each other and appreciate all that everyone has to offer. [im not perfect and i dont wanan come across as if i think i am, i just dont also wanna see us bringing each other down-it hurts me, and we have the rest of the world to do that to us, here at blather the majorirty of us are different] maybe im wrong in what i all say, but i do know that i just wanna see us all be able to launch our projects and to participate in these experiences 030701 ... User24 just read up to silentbob's "imediately after" comment, and I agree, everyone always wants to be the one who kicked it off, and I appreciate that it's pretty crappy to start something, have everyoen else jump on the bandwagon, and then get left behind. there's so many people starting something, and hardly anyone finishing it. like I said before, I have the greatest respect to anyone who believes in something enough to make it happen. and I agree with mahayana (i think) that tapes and low tech stuff is great - I was considering a blatherbook website, where people could scan pages in, etc, but it's all a bit sleek, isn't it? One of the best books I've read recently was a thing called 'creating peaceful people' about how people are manipulated during times of war. It was photocopied, the lines were wonky, and it has a yellow cardboard cover - in other words - it has character. I offer my full support, silentbob, and would sign up, if only my tape player worked. good luck. 030702 ... silentbob i love each and every one of you, for serious, we can do this, and i definately want to support you however i can in the mp3 thing. and about being snappy- it certainly does not give me the right to be mean to people. but i do have that right, just because i am a human being and am capable of being wrong. and it is only through experience that i can learn not to do it again. like i feel it is inappropriate to be mean to people, because i think we can get along without it, but that doesnt mean im not going to slip up sometimes and forget myself. i feel everyone has the right to react how they react. i will most definately apologize for how it made people feel, and i will most definately take into consideration how people are going to take it if i am snappy in the future, but im going to defend my right to react how im going to react, because, i dont know, i guess all humans should have the freedom to do what they want. But obviously just because they have the right, doesnt mean they should use it. in fact they shouldnt use it. i dont know where i'm going with this. 030702 ... sixteen ok, granted I didn't read every blathe on the page (read some, skimmed others), but I don't think Bobby meant to "snap" at anyone, and most of this "snapping" was just how you interpreted it. And Bobby apologized quite a bit...i don't think he was being negative or out of line... just... silentbob is not an ass. He's a very sweet guy. Don't get all confused... :) (feel free to start bitching me out because I'm not coming back to this page :) so it won't matter to me) 030702 ... ... phew! well, the blather_mixed_tape sure got off with a good start. 030702 ... Mahayana Maybe you ought to examine the whole thing before you construct interpretations sixteen and then take off thus circumventing any deliberations that would ensue based upon your commentary. Bobby admitted he was snappy, there's no motivation for you to draw in closer here and rouse more things up by saying otherwise, yes you have the right to do so- just as anyone else does, but is it logically sourced, not really. He intended to snap he admitted and explained several times the reasons why, and yes to many of us he was being relatively pessimistic and off-putting regarding this project, and it wasn’t just how we “interpreted it”, for he was honorable enough to acknowledge the truth behind his words and actions- which is rare for people to do now-a-days, and for this I have the utmost respect for him in doing do. Even the sweetest, most affectionate, obliging of us all can be asses from time to time. In the uncommonness that “y” is sometimes a vowel. [and hell yeah this means me too-and everyone else] 030702 ... Mahayana i agree with bobby i as well love each and every one of us and yes! we can do this, and i really think we should. yes, i furthermore agree we all do have that right to be snappy or [insert whatever applying emotion/action into here] just because that is how we as compassionate human being's grow. which can be a most beautiful process. as constant learners and developing minds we all slip up from time to time but that is the magic of the process thank you for apologizing bobby, it takes a great person to do so, and in may lights portrays how dedicated and intensely passionate you were/are about this project. Nobody wants you to not defend your rights we just wanna work with you on your project, not to take it over, not to destroy your creative process, but mostly b/c we think its a swell idea and wanna have a part in it. if its still going down, and i am still welcomed, id like to contribute to this project, however i would like to remain on a maybe list and the reason why i say this is b/c my time and monetary resources are tied up, due to school- mostly [time], and i wanna make sure b/4 I sign up, im able to do so. so if and when it comes time for my participation [if yall still want me on], i can say, "yep, i can afford the time/money" [[no matter how it goes itll be great bobby]] 030702 ... silentbob Well, send me an email with your address so i can put it in the official blather mixed tape folder that lies in my inbox 030702 ... karl the weed i just realized something. i dont have a mic, but my stereo has a double deck, so, user24, if you want to send yours on a cd, i can copy it onto the disc. thats what ill be doing with mine. again, sorry silentbob, i didnt mean to make you feel bad, you were just a little tense. no big deal. im like that all the time. btw, ferret lives near me, so hell contribute also. 030702 ... x I read the whole entire thing. Everyone already thinks I'm mean anyway so I have nothing to lose. (oh wait, except for those people who ACTUALLY know me, but they must be wrong) Bobby had an idea and everyone came in and said "no, let's do something else". THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. People shut down his idea before. It's fucked up. He said SO far back that both could be done but everyone was like "no MP3's are better". What a load! it's not about consensus. it's bobby's project and he invited people to share in it. you want something different? make your own fucking project. it's like a bunch of toddlers "you're not doing what i want! you're mean! i hate you!" seriously. 030702 ... x oh... not to underestimate anyone. the first graders i worked with also did that. 030702 ... spoons Thank you daxle 030702 ... silentbob a_new_blather_project 030702 ... Mahayana and for me the point is/was fine he can do it whatever way he wants but then on the same token why complain and get crabby when no one is able to join up (mostly due to lack of equipment) and fill his list out like he wants? sometimes, you cant have it both ways people making suggestions, in my eyes, was a compliment, its like saying hey you know what this is a really great idea and i really wanna be apart of it, as do most people, but since most of us dont have the equipment, what about this or how about that? Most people just arent hella long winded like i am, and care not to express it in such length id personally be more so concerned and jilted if no-one had said anything, even though they wanted to participate but didnt express interest b/c they didnt have tape recorders i cant speak for everyone, but i really do not think it was a "lets destroy bobs project", or "eh his idea sucks" sort of reasoning for making suggestions. whats wrong with suggestions? its the silence one should fear when starting to create a [[[community]]] project 030702 ... karl the weed thats exactly the message we were trying to get across. 030702 ... falling on deaf ears as usual jesus H christ ok. fucking hell, everyone's got a log up their arse recently it's a goddamn project! bob wants to make a mix tape, other people came along and saw potential improvements, bob was a little harsh in his replies, but we've been through this and no-one's offended. so. we all want to make a project doing x, y or even z. why? to bring something refreshing, exicting and new to the blather community; to bring us together. let's try not to make it turn into something that'll rip us apart? 030703 ... silentbob its just so weird because i just assume people have tape players because thast what i have. but apparently a lot of people dont. so this project is for people that do, as was stated in the original post saying who qualifies. and for people who dont qualify, they can do the mp3 thing, and that would be cool 030703 ... silentbob Ok, this is for people reading this who A) haven't spoken yet B) haven't sent me your address yet What is your general opinion? Do you plan on being part of it? Why or Why not? 030705 ... niska i don't know why there is confusion over this. i think it's a cool idea. i'd participate, but i'm not down with handing out my address on the internet. also, i don't own a tape recorder... but you can put this one on there for me, if you like: the sun always shines on tv, by aha. 030715 ... silentbob your support of the project is appreciated, but i would prefer it if you would just get involved and all that jazz. We're all pretty much living on an honor_code. And i think we're all pretty safe. If you wanted, if it would be most convenient for you, you could be the first one to get the tape, so i would be the only one to see your address. oh, but you also said you dont have a tape recorder. Do you have access to one? pretty much now, im looking for more people to get_involved with the whole shebang. hopefully more will sign up, yo. thanks 030716 ... ClairE This sounds like a great idea. *end of comment* 030722 ... ashmanzhou doth soundst great! 030722 ... Dafremen Hey S'Bob. Why don't you offer folks the option of downloading Realplayer Jukebox and recording their own MP3? I can come up with a quick Tutorial on how to configure it. If they don't have a microphone, a speaker works almost as well. Just plug it into the mike jack. At the end, you take the MP3s and put em to tape in any order you'd like. (I know it sort of defeats the coolness of having a tape travel around the country, physically making contact with these people...but then again, how fair would it be to the people that did it right, took the time, paid the postage to have someone who didn't give a crap or who took the project too casually destroy or lose the tape halfway into it's travels? Look what happened to every Photo Gallery project we've had when the password was given out. This is a LITTLE different, but then the loss is that much greater. Just a thought do0d. Watcha think? 030722 ... silentbob i think it sounds good daf. i think you should be in charge of it, since i dont really know how to do any of that, maybe sometime i could contribute or something 030722 ... Dafremen Bob, You have such a subtle and almost gently slippery way about you. Fortunately the political and suspicious nature of the Scorp is not lost on me. My best friend is one. Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself in front of at least one old geezer who has more respect for you than you'd care to admit or care to reciprocate. This is YOUR project. Who would want to take that from you? Not me that's for sure. My MOTUS OPERANDI, in case you've been too busy reading my bullshit to see through it is to help people. Deal with that and get over your preconceived and entirely incorrect notions about me. That would go for you too dax. This is not Paradise Hotel and I can't stand drama. It's too catty for my tastes. Now about the suggestion, got a GENUINE response in there somewhere S'Bob? 030722 ... Dafremen P.S. Denial on your part is almost expected. Surprise me. 030722 ... x you're a joke. but i've heard you far too many times to laugh anymore. 030723 ... Dafremen Very clever and oh so snide, dear daxle. The joke is how two such well thought of people can harbor so much venom. It's a wonder...I tell you a real wonder. Anything else? (By the way folks, this was in response to a helpful suggestion. My bad. It's been going around lately. See also how_much_bad_poetry ) 030723 ... silentbob um...well...uhhhh i don't really know how to respond... i'm not really sure what you're talking about, i'm not too technologically advanced with the whole jukebox thing and microphone stuff... i mean, i suppose they have that option if they want it...whatever they want to do is surely fine with me, however they want to record a song onto a tape i think would be great, but the truth is, its really up to them. I apologize if you thought i was being snide and rude to you, i honestly thought you were trying to come up with a new project, which i thought was an ok project, i thought you were saying they could record personal songs onto a mic and put them on a tape.... which is a perfectly valid idea but since i don't really know how to do that i didn't want to be in charge of it, and just thought i would...i dont know, let you handle it, but apparently you're suggesting they do this with this project. for people who dont have a tape player, or something, i guess. i really dont know much about music jukebox, i dont know how it works, and... yeah. the truth is, any way they want to record a song onto a tape is perfectly fine. whether it be CD to tape, borrowing a friends, or recording it off the internet. some people are sending their friends cds to put on the tape. thats fine too. i mean, i wasnt trying to blow you off, or misunderstand what youre about or something like that i apologize again if i came off that way i mean... uhhh...i don't really know what else you want me to say you brought it up...and now you're apparently unsatisfied with the fact that i don't know what you're talking about. or something? 030723 ... jane isn't that a little complicated anyway? why not just get a tape recorder?? 030723 ... ClairE I think the reason silentbob suggested that the Jukebox idea be a project unto itself is because a debate already occurred on this subject for most of this blathe. And this debate seemed to be resolved with silentbob saying that all he wanted to do was make a mix_tape, on tape, and that that was the technology he was using, and that anyone else is of_course free to make their own mix_tape_type projects. Did I misunderstand? 030723 ... ever dumbening jesus h lilliputian. this is the stupidest fucking debate. SHUT UP. without question this is the worst_blathe_ever (and damn if i wasn't going to be a part of it; history is the shizzle). EITHER YOU'RE JOINING THE TAPE PROJECT OR YOU'RE NOT. it's that simple. bob. i'm in. you'll have my address shortly. sheesh 030723 ... A Viking In Peru *thinks people need to calm down, but isn't mighty enough to suggest it* I'm in, my adress is in your hands, and I await. 030723 ... Dafremen Well bob, I'm game then. I accept your expression of sincerity as sincere do0d. As for Dax, well she had it coming and she knows it (although as usual, I'm incapable of harboring resentment. How sto0pid would that be?) Bob, the real jukebox thing is simple as sh*t. They download Real Jukebox, follow the quick little instructions that I'll post on a related blather (IF you like, because as I said...this is YOUR project. It's a brilliant and EXTREMELY co0l idea and since you already HAVE my address you KNOW I'm behind you.) Then if they have a song they want to sing, they record it with Real Jukebox. If they don't, then they just send you the MP3 of a song they would like you to add to the mix tape. At the end, after the tape has come back to you, you just plug your stereo's line-in to the computers line-out jack and viola! You instantly have an option for those who: A) Don't want to give out their address B) Don't have tape recording technology available C) Feel that their technical expertise is so nonexistant that they might screw up the tape. D) Barely have money for food let alone postage. E) Are too lazy to mail something I think part of the confusion was due to the fact that I intend on recording my own song and Real Jukebox allows you to create MP3s. You actually don't need Real Jukebox at all.(My Bad) All this idea really requires is that they have a copy of the song they want to add in MP3 format and that they email it to you. If you get some and you need help getting em onto the tape...you know where to reach me. I'd be glad to help. It's what I do allllll day long (helping people that is.) Just ask anyone that knows. 030723 ... Bespeckled I think i can speak for Bobby when I suggest that you (or another volunteer) should be in charge of putting people's MP3s on the mix tape, because we all that Bobby is hopelessly incapable of working with this new age technical stuff (as he's stated himself and all that). [Disclaimer: The above comment is devoid of sarcasm, except when expressed with love and admiration] 030723 ... jane okay...i said it once, and i'll say it again: why bother making an mpthree for a tape! when you can just sing into a tape recorder... if that is your objective... either way, leave bobby out of it and make your own project 030724 ... silentbob Well, i guess people talking about it is better than people not talking about it. Every address counts, of course. Daf: i'm glad we're cool. I think the other thing that was confusing me, was... You're saying people record their own songs, right? As in personal songs they've written? That wasn't the first thing that came to my mind when i thought of making a mixtape, but i did think of that possibility and it certainly is a good one. My main intention was having people put on songs that they liked, like, their favorite song by the beatles, or their new favorite song by some other band. or some other variation that i haven't thought of, which is why i am excited by the variety and diversity of the whole project. because people really can put anything as long as it isn't like more than five minutes. original song, someone elses song... it is all good. Ok, blather_kids as it stands if you want to you can record your own song and put it on the tape, if you like. To do this you can follow dafs instructions on another page. PS, daf, thank you for the gesture with the three copies of the blather_tape, i appreciate that muchly. thank you all for the support youve given this project thus far, i still need people, so please, send addresses if this is your bag. 030724 ... . search google for 'cdex' for a program to rip cds to mp3 - then you can email the mp3 to someone who record it onto the tape! 030725 ... Mahayana im sorry Bobby, but for personal reasons i have to back out of this project, i apologize. and know it has nothing to do with you or your wonderful idea. good-luck with it i know it'll be smashingly awesome 030726 ... Dafremen If it's agreed then, I'll be standing in for Mahayana. Polka, bluegrass or dueling banjo selections...hmmm which one shall we add to the tape? Aha!! Pakistani ghazals! Perfect! 030726 ... silentbob mahayana- i am sorry to hear that. im still in love with you. daf- sorry, you already have one place, you can't have someone else's. i mean, i easily could take over everyone's, but that would defeat the purpose. I appreciate your attempt though. hehe 030726 ... Dafremen Yea..well yer gunna have to instruct the person after me to tape over the Pakastani Ghazals then you nazi. : ) 030726 ... silentbob ha!well, i think it will occur to them on their own mouhaa 030726 ... Dafremen You need to hear some Sudhir Narain man. Then you'd see that Mahayana does indeed have excellent taste in ghazals. 030726 ... silentbob what is that like? 030726 ... jane yay! i got the mixtape in the mail today with a lonely two songs on it i have no idea what to add but i promise i won't keep you all waiting long 030922 ... User24 karl; have you had the tape yet, if not, don't put the track I gave you on it (it's crap) email me @project2501.you know the rest blah blah and I'll see if I can think of something else to put on it.. cheers, 030924 ... karl the weed lol ok dont worry. 030924 ... silentbob if karl had gotten it already, wouldnt that mean there would be a lonely four songs on it? because he's putting on some for other people? 030925 ... Bespeckled/Pralines Any updates??? 031205 ... silentbob jane still has it, last i checked. she's been really busy. but i'm sure she'll let us know when she's sent it on 031206 ... jane yes yes i'm the asshole who is hogging the tape...i went broke the other morning but i'm trying to recover (so far it's -54.17 in my account, thats a good start right?). thank you all for your patience & i'll have it on its way as soon as i can get some money for postage 031224 ... u24 you still good for recording something to the tape when you get it, karl? and if it's not too much bother (which, thinking about it, it probably is) it'd be cool if someone could copy the tape to a CD so I (and others) could listen as well as contribute. 040102 ... karl the weed yeah i can still do that. but have you sent me the file yet? be sure to do that soon, my aol sn expires soon and i think that yahoo has a file size limit on it. 040102 ... karl the weed yeah i can still do that. but have you sent me the file yet? be sure to do that soon, my aol sn expires soon and i think that yahoo has a file size limit on it. 040102 ... silentbob jane, thank you very much, i appreciate you muchly u- do you mean the tape in progress? or when its finished? when its finished i imagine we will post the list on blather and then perhaps you could download each of the individual songs, or something, i plan on (hopefully, patience/money/time permitting) trying to make copies for those who want them, so maybe someone could hook you up once that happens. it will be a long time though. we aren't very far along yet. i didnt expect to be very far along at this point. its cool. 040102 ... jane okay. i sent the tape today. finally finally finally i dont have to have that guilt eating away at my insides. have fun! 040224 ... karl the weed um hey, bobby, what is the order that everyone gets it in? just curious. 040224 ... Syrope blah to dorms without proper recording equipment 040225 ... AVikingInPeru I just got the tape -- I'll record my song onto it as soon as I can, and then send it on as soon as I have the address to send it to. About those of you who are interested in a CD of the tape -- I can easily turn the final version into CD form for you. I was planning on doing that anyway for myself so it would be easier to listen to. 040227 ... silentbob i have the order in my room somewhere. its in order by location, since california is the majority i'm doing them last. 040612 ... Bespeckled I am back!!! ::stands with fists on hips triumphantly:: I have been shamefully avoiding this place while I've been vacationing/mostly slacking off instead of working on my end of the blather journey mixed tape (to those I have frustrated and upset, I am sincerely sorry). But now it is ready, and will (finally) leave my hands and go on to the next deserving blatherskite. :) 040813 ... jane what in tarnation happened to this? 070327 ... fix oh damn ! it must be from the dark side ! if you come with me... i will show you... you will show me... what world we must live in. 070327 ... karl the weed we ought to restart this. i would be willing to help organize it. 070509 ... fix who is karl the weed ? 070510 ... karl lol.. a skite from days past... 070510 ... its tiny!!! blather_mixed_ape 070510 what's it to you? who go blather from