how_much_bad_poetry sixteen how much bad poetry could I possibly spew before I finally give up? ridiculousness. 030720 ... Aimee what you think is bad, maybe brilliant to another person... what you think is amazing, maybe monotonous drivel to another person... it's all perspective. 030720 ... sixteen hi, fuck off. 030721 ... endless desire ouchwhoowow 030721 ... silentbob she is right. 030722 ... ? who is? 030722 ... Aimee It's rather arrogant of you to think i was addressing you. Maybe I was just speaking to a general audience. Then again, maybe you need someone to tell you your words are pathetic and awful so someone else will come to your rescue and you get attention. I'm not going to give you anything you want... blather isn't about that, you have to find what you want and give back to achieve it. 030722 ... sixteen You shouldn't make assumptions either. I was just telling you to fuck off. And you don't have to listen to me, which you understand. I think we both understand. but yet again, fuck off. 030722 ... sixteen p.s. its not about any rescue or attention, dear. Its not about anything. But i know, know, know, know, you will assume as much. So go right on ahead. (just felt that it was necessary) 030722 ... endless desire ouchwhoowow. . . 030722 ... silentbob i have an idea if people responding to your blathes pisses you off, don't post things on blather that are likely to get a response. and when it sounds like you're reaching for compliments, dont tell people to fuck off when they come. 030722 ... sixteen I'm just hurt because Aimee totally didn't need to mention her hating me (not hating, im not quoting, but its the basic idea....negativity towards me) in the you_have_got_to_be_kidding_me blathe. I mean, anybody else could have responded and it would have been ok enough, but Aimee has just been pissing me off for what seems like an eternity, and I kept pretty quiet about it. but you know. Aimee was free enough to express her dislike for me ...to get some point across, which totally did not need to be there....it was just unnecessary to throw that in. It was hurtful, and its all good for her because its her opinion and she says you shouldnt care about other blatherskites judgement and some shit like that... Sorry, I'm not one to be eloquent when I'm upset. anyway. It would explain my whole "fuck off, aimee" thing. wasted time, justifying. I'm done. like done. done. 030722 ... silentbob oh. i didnt read all of that blathe. 030722 ... Aimee Again, that blathe was not directed at you. Go through blather and you're going to find many instances in which someone is pissed off because someone insulted their work or because someone just decided to go off on someone else. My point was that you shouldn't care what other people think, and just blathe what you feel, what you think, and what you find to be beautiful. It doesn't matter if someone else agrees with you. You can dislike me all you want, but I just wanted to make it clear that my intention was not to attack you (or anyone else specifically for that matter), especially since i haven't been "back" long enough to know your style. But whatever... be mad and waste your energy disliking someone who you only know through words and not through contact... and now I will "fuck off" 030722 ... Dafremen Aight. Here's where I jump in. Not because I belong in this, but because you can f*ck off if you think I don't. I am always the first(or second)to defend free_expression . I always will be. That includes your right to say F*CK OFF if you want to. I have that same right, so here's MY free expression. Your words have got a chip on their shoulder, kid, big enough for T.J. and I to teeter-totter on if we were so inclined.(Already waiting for a snide little comment about that.) You come out swinging at your poetry and when someone comes along and offers you or maybe some dumb f*ck like you that happens across this page 4 years from now a little very gentle, very positive, very genuine, very insightful and VERY TRUE advice, your words reach out to smack them in the face. If it would have been ME playing one of my little writing games I would taken yer whiney little ass and smacked it into a mason jar, sealed it and chucked it in the river. But then you'd have liked that. It's so easy for hormonally unbalanced nitwits like you to pretend that you're acting so reasonably when in fact you're making a bigger ass of yourself than even I can. And I TRY at it! No doubt you'll stick me and everyone else that rejects your words into that box that most of you dipsh*ts that are adjusting to their new levels of estrogen and testosterone reserve for all of the people who "don't understand" them. (Waaah) Come at me with that f*ck off sh*t. I just might write you a nice 10 page thesis on 600 ways to go f*ck yerself. Then again, maybe you wouldn't be worth the time. Whew. That was fun. Ok where were we? Oh yea, hey like Aimee said, everyone has different tastes chicklette. One man's scribble is another's Picasso. Keep workin at it if it really means something to you. You'll do fine. Your bud, Daf - - 030722 ... karl the weed daf, why the f*ck do you bleep your cuss words? 030722 ... Dafremen Occasionally I won't and YES, I realize that you need only scroll up a little farther to see an un bleeped version. Hell there are no other words in the English language that have an F followed by another letter and a CK, so it's obvious what it says, BUT it's like I can toss my used napkin in the wastebasket..why would I throw it on the floor? I gotta live and write here too. Besides, I'm a dad and I don't feel it would be right of me to add to all of the fucking profanity and shit that goes on around this place. 030722 ... Aimee first off... Daf... I love you. Secondly, after having conferred with my loving bobby-kins, it comes to my attention that sixteen is none other than Yummyc. The only thing I can say is, get over yourself. The whole world is not going to kiss your ass and try to make things easy for you. In the meantime, go look at your past blathes where you've played the "look at me game" and feel happy that people looked. once again, daf... i love you 030722 ... ashmanzhou after all profanity is bridging to insanity in that when thou dost hear it thou dost wonder onto it and wonder why they dost profane toward what they do inane it seems to others but it is another way of expressing thyself and if others dont like it then thy dost not have to believe or take it to account that they dost believe it dost offent them and thou dost become thy expression to them they see your words increasingly so and judge thee upon them seeing not the intent behind them 030722 ... Dafremen Ya know Aimee...as much as yer muh bud and all and I would never intentionally ignore you..this ashmanzhou character is starting to grow on me. Know what I mean? 030722 ... endless desire ok for my two cents. . .since i've been keeping up with this blathe lets see, ok so sixteen does seem to be screaming for attention. i would do the same thing i guess because i am a whiney teenager and that's what i like to do. and while i've only been here for 3 months, i've already realized that that sort of thing does not fly around here, because you all are not idiots. so i don't think sixteen, who has been here much longer than i have, would make that sort of attention-crazy mistake, but what do i know? anyways, as for everyone else, i really don't know aimee. i like the way she spells her name and i've seen her picture, but that's about it. daf and ashmanzhou are the comic relief of the page in my opinion. daf and his shove yummy in a jar deal and ashmanzhou just because i have no idea what the hell he is ever talking about unless i really want to sit down and put some effort into things--but even then, it doesn't always make sense. anywho. that's all i have to say about that. ouchwhoowow and then i fly. 030722 ... Dafremen Bout time someone had the insight to see my reactive sh*t for what it is. Geezus. Even when it's not funny, it's still funny. You know how many people STILL hate me because of a simple lack of that sort of perspective? Congratualtions ED, I'm impressed. Take a sheep! There are also dead MONKEYS if you'd like one! (I highly recommend them. Shhh..Aimee don't say a thing...I think we might unload the burnt one this time!! Keep yer fingers crossed!) 030723 ... misstree daf, as a long lost veteran of some wonderful/nasty flame wars, i have to say, that was excellent. biting, original, got the point across and hammered it in. and it cheered me up a bit. keep the flame alive. 030723 ... Dafremen : ) Ahhh..to be loafed...Ees der aynee oder way? 030723 ... chandu oh boy, i wish all of us would take up some other sort of hobby, like croqueting. at least then we'd have sweaters. oh and.....fuck off daf. 030723 ... endlessdesirewhoisafanofdafshumor take a walri! my 5th graders are monkeys and we are all sheep. on somedays, everything is a joke. and then i feel 4. 030723 ... endlessdesire oh. and my decided theme: ouchwhoowow. ((i was congradulated)) 030723 ... niska oh yeah... this is rich. you know what i see here? sixteen can tell aimee to fuck off if she wants to, because aimee was a cunt to her, ok? it's like me telling 'innocent bystander' to fuck off. i'd feel justified in that. that person is a total fucker to me all over blather. who cares where and when he/she decides to be nice one day. what a load of crap. or unhinged telling ME to fuck off. i was a total cunt to her. i'd deserve it. aimee, regardless of her intentions is, right about the poetry. you're all brillant poets if you think you are. all of peotry is amazing if you think it is. blather is yours, kids... but i don't think sixteen is contesting that. this is just another fun blather misunderstanding that's turned into a shit-slinging brawl. the fuck off was explained. aimee earned it - she just had to expound on why she dislikes sixteen in the first place, AGAIN, which only exacerbates the situation - THEN has the fucking nerve to blame sixteen for being upset when she made her angry. retarted. i like that this is going absolutely nowhere. sixteen: you tell someone to fuck off, they're gonna fight back. but who cares? you had a reason. you can do what you like and don't have to justify it. but, you know what will happen when you do, so it might be better to just roll your eyes, and forget they exist. we can do whatever we want here, but it models life in a way - not everyone will like what we like to do. and they will complain about it. now this doesn't have to stop anyone from doing what they like, but let me tell you - from my experience - i'm sick and tired of the bite marks on my ass from being chewed out by so many little fuck-wads who can't get it in their head that they have a choice to move on and read somethig else if they don't like it. i don't give a rat's ass if they're offended - it's not hard to offend a handful of beautiful, unnique flowers, but come on - does it matter? if you're comfortable with the consequences of offending someone, then by all means do it. if you're not, then don't. personally, i don't think you should care at all, but it's apparent that freedon here, lately, is reserved for the cuddle crowd and the lovers. aimee: someone tells you to fuck off, and you know you deserve it, just accept it. i know you weren't being mean this time, but you're both offending each other, and you're both fighting back - only, your whole point is people can do whatever they want to, so quit whining about the fuck off. i'm sure i'm not the only one who thought you were talking to her. (until you explained you weren't really talking to HER, but EVERYONE - yeah... aren't we all? it's bunk.) if you were talking to everyone, that means you actually were adressing her, as she is part of a collective of people here. also, the pronoun "you" is a little bit of a finger-pointer, don't you think? you (yeah, you) can continue to battle it out, or you can be the intelligent person you'd like us to think you are and just quit blather harassing her. i think she'd settle for that. also, you couldn't possibly have time to kiss sixteen's ass because your lips are permanently adhered to Daf's, it seems. i don't give a fuck if you want to come rake shit with me for MY opinion either - i won't respond to you. we'd just bore each other with semantics. disclaimer: i don't know either of these people, and i don't give a shit about sides. this whole thing is pointless, and you're both responsible for it's conception. but aimee, you know you're ganging up on someone, and i think it's fucking malicious. we must allow everyone absolute freedom, in order to protect our own. 030723 ... niska ps: i have a potty mouth and i haven't been able to swear all day; we had a long, long visit from some very important shareholders. so don't get all stinky because of the swears. it's like finally having a cigarette after 8 hours. it's a fix. 030723 ... sixteen doesnt want to hear this shit anymore. Alright. I was going to forget about this blathe, and for the most obvious of reasons: i have been in the wrong, and I'm tired of digging the hole deeper. But niska was a very nice girl who voiced her opinion without taking sides. Not entirely. Anyone could say she was taking sides merely because she justified me a little. I think i needed that in order to have any sort of response. first off...to be honest, I didn;t read dafremens blathe just because I know he'd have bad shit to say about me...and besides that...it was too long and I get too bored to read anything he has to say. We all know I am no dafremen fan, anyway. But in my mind (not aloud. I am too proud to announce this any other place but..well...here and now...and dont ever ever bring this up ever again) I know dafremen does have a nice sense of humor, and he is right when he is right. We sure as hell don't get along, but I give credit where it is due, and dafremen does have some pretty legit opinions. sometimes. ok, no more of that...I hate the idea of being ok with him... So after having a few beers...and talking to Jamie (not that any of you know who he is, but hes a pretty cool guy and nobody could deny it if they knew him) on the phone, I'm in a mellow enough mood to honestly say what I honestly feel and mean. This is no excuse, but...but it is a warning. I haven't taken my medication for a week...you know, I dont even know why and its better if I knock it off...but the fact is that i havent taken it and it puts me in a very bitchy selfish mood. Its almost indulgence. Alright. Here is everything that I meant to say, and I don't care who reads or misinterprets it. I won't mind if you twist my words or overanalyze, because this is it. I am feeling balanced enough to explain. First of all, I honestly thought Aimee knew that sixteen=yummyC. I really thought that Aimee was purposely trying to hurt me by making that comment in the you_have_got_to_be_kidding_me thread. I still think it was a bit unnecessary to point out that she disliked me. But you know, now at least I have a clue as to who one of the nameless shitrakers was back in the day...back when yummyC was fully harrassed and hated or else loved and admired. to be entirely honest...I understand both sides. I can see how some silly disillusioned person could fall in love with me, and also how some silly disillusioned person could absolutely despise me. I am a human, a very flawed one, but...some people are drawm to drama and ..well...silliness. some people can relate to the nonsense that is me. and so relating translated into admiring for some reason. And I know my flaws, my wrongs, just as well as anyone. I promise that I am a very introspective and frustrated person. I know when i am wrong. But I am also too proud to ADMIT when I am. For the most part. It feels terrible, but here: I was wrong. I was wrong to even TRY to hurt someone. If I had been anyone else, if Aimee had been anyone else, i would have whole heartedly agreed with her. yes, its all a matter of perspective, yes, you control all that you feel: you do not have to be hurt by someone elses opinion if you don't want to. Its insanely right. I agree. But. I was too busy being worked up about Aimee calling me an attention hungry bitch. I'm sure thats not exactly what she called me, but thats what i got from it. It was hurtful. yeah. And it was frustrating because how the hell could I possibly comment directly below her, whining about how mean it was when she had JUST said that you shouldn't let yourself be offended when someone doesn't like you, and "who cares?" I really try to have that attitude, but I'm too sensitive to not care when someone doesn't like me. I can understand that you control your own emotions and reactions to others...but its quite another thing to LIVE that understanding. I still stick to the fact that my intentions were not to get someone to "rescue" me or whatever, because OBVIOUSLY blather is not like that and I've been around long enough to know that this would turn into a big "jamie is an idiot bitch" thing...but uh. You know. digging the hole deeper is what I do best. and as I said in livejournal (true cyber dork) ...this hole is seriously fucking up my chi. so i dont know where I'm going with this. i apologize for being out of line and rude enough to continually swear at someone I don't even know. but the relationships stand. You still don't like me. I still don't like you. But I did take what you said to heart, and I thought you should know that. I took everything to heart. 030723 ... Dafremen Chandru: I need an email adress. I have a thesis I'd like to send you. Niska: Aimee doesn't need to attach her lips to my ass because she is my friend. I won't tolerate ass kissers for friends because they are manipulators and if you hang with people that DO, you should think about finding another crowd to hang with. Besides, this drama is for you girls to scratch and pull hair over. I straight up jumped in cuz it was fun. I didn't even know who sixteen was and THAT's her bad for being so fickle with her nick. I warned her a year and a half ago that it was a bad idea to change yer name, but well..advice and teenagers just don't mix. Yummy-Fluckin-Chuckle: I know yer just being dumb and having fun now that I know who it is. Yer giggling yer f*cking ass off as much as you may appear to be pissed. Why would you be pissed? This is all a f*cking diversion for you. By the way, like it or not, you're ok with me...that was never your decision to make anyway, it was mine and I made it. Yer just fine with me and finally, to end this long boring speech before your soundbite accustomed low RAM brain decides to tune out: I could give a flying f*ck on a rolling carmex container (yes ladies, I'm shorter than the average bear) what ANY of you think of me. If you haven't emailed me, yer fictional characters in the blather_book. Period. (Another revealing clue destined to be ignored by the self-absorbed, apathetic and delusional. Ni modo.) 030723 ... endless desire long and i really don't see how everyone is under the impression that aimee HATES sixteen. i mean, i don't even think any of her comments on that particular blathe where THAT bad, but i'll just stay out of this, i guess. 030723 ... sixteen hey now if nah...! is allowed to have ten million nicknames, then so am I. plus, I thoguht this nickname was more appropriate, and you KNOW you do too. 030723 ... sixteen oh wait, closing statement: you guys HAVE to realize that the amount of time and thought put into the first blathe on this page was NOT enough to anticipate the coming of so many angry/passionate comments. Really. even if I was hungry for attention, i didn't plan to make such a big deal out of the whole thing. 030723 ... niska Daf: YOU don't like ass-kissers? that's either a bold faced lie, or a very tragic delusion on your part, prof. wannabepopular. i don't want to get into a long, contrived debate with you, because frankly, it'll go on forever. i'm just going to say this: 1, thanks for your advice in advance - if i ever do hang out with ass-kissers, from blather no less, i'll be sure to keep thaat in mind... 2, while i'll concede that teens and advice are a bad combo, the whole name thing is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read, that you've written. (i know - i've written a lot of ridiculous shit, but i don't pretend to be better than that) who are you, everyone's dad? or the creepy uncle that wanders into their rooms at night when mom & dad are asleep? or maybe, you're the blatherer we should all aspire to be, while were solidifying our personas for the world to judge us by. i guess whatever has all the little blather suckas hanging on your every self-proclaimed, word of wisdom... you know you thrive on it - it's not a big secret. i don't know anything about either of these two, but let me tell you, i can see how it started, i can see where it's going: we're all free to express ourselves, yeah - if you're paying homage to lord dafremen, or at least kissing his ass. 030723 ... niska sixteen: sorry kiddo, but no sides. i know why aimee reacted the way she did - the same way i reacted to the person i had my first blather argument with. but i know why you told her to fuck off. you're both right; you're both wrong. should you be mad your free expression was met with argument? or should aimee be mad hers was? what came first? the chicken or the egg? the lesson to learn here is that if we stop to consider the consequences of our actions, we can avoid trouble - OR we can do whatever the hell we want to and welcome it. i suppose it depends what you're searching for. 030723 ... sixteen my mouth tastes like string cheese. 030724 ... Bespeckled Niska, I just have a suggestion for you(this has nothing to do with the sixteen/Aimee thing. My two cents is going into another piggy bank here). Do more reading and less hasty writing when it comes to making judgements on people, especially Daf, about whom it is especially possible to form different conclusions based on different things he has written on blather. I made the mistake of reading only a couple of things he'd written, and making assumptions myself (remember the most hated blatherer, Daf? I think I've changed a bit since then). But after spending a lot more time on blather, and perusing through a lot more of what Daf had/has to say, my overall opinion of him is positive, and admirably so. This suggestion goes for everyone on blather, and everyone in life: Hold your tongue for awhile and get to see what a person is really about. First impressions are not always correct ones. And always, please, keep an open mind. 030724 ... the cheer-up kid Bollocks to that. Bitch like hell. Its fun to read. 030724 ... ashmanzhou dissuade not first impressions they save time when you are faced with the external fixture of yourself however they should be used in conjunction with other things 030724 ... Dafremen sixteen - Have as many as you like. Flippo told me it was co0l. ED - I won't claim to know what's going on between Aimee and Ms. Stickypants and I really don't want to. Too much drama for this old fogey. You could be right. niska - it's almost surprising how short sighted people can be sometimes. Had it ever occured to anyone that the reason I advertise so much around here is because I'm trying to get the attention of the web crawler bots? (Another revealing clue...hell that wasn't even a clue that was a f*cking eviction notice for your poorly thought out misconceptions based on amateur psychology and not enough experience with human beings to realize that there are possibilities you might never have thought of.) For instance, why would "mr. popularity" write sh*t to polarize approximately half or more of blather against him?! (Because I WRITE here, that's it. No motives, no delusions of grandeur, no politics (unless it makes for an interesting writing challenge)..none of that. Please get a clo0 when I say it this time. I WRITE HERE! I'm getting tired of repeating myself.) If you would like to fill in the blanks, email me. Otherwise, save yer spiel for folks who are more impressed with your credentials that I am right now. You are the second wannabe therapist whose misdiagnosis I've had to wade through this morning. I'm getting some coffee now. 030724 ... Dafremen P.S. Sticky, I don't think any of this was borught on by your first blathe and you know it. It was the two words you blathed after that that brought all of this down on all of our heads. 030724 ... Dafremen P.P.S. ashmanzhou - You, like me, appear to be a blend of insightful words and absurd crap. That last blathe was a chunk of insight that floated to the top. 030724 ... Dafremen Oh and Bespeckled. Yes I remember and yes it was funny and yes I'm glad it's over. Now we can both laugh about it. I like that. The main reason I wasn't going to respond to you here was because I didn't want you getting chucked into the "ass kisser" box by the folks who haven't gotten it yet. Thanks for seeing through the scrambled workings of my brain. Houston we have contact. : ) 030724 ... enough already. insert_blatherskite_name_here 030725 ... endless desire truly, most people are kissing someones ass. and it's not even necessarily a bad thing. anyways, it does seem that this page filled up rather quickly over a simple "fuck off." simple because people have just become desensitized to all of that nowadays anyways. 030725 ... Dafremen I know I'm desensitized. (Course I have to use a cream..) 030725 ... ferret you_are_what_you_beat beat your meat meat meat_patty meet_patty meet_patty_on_a_bun 030725 ... Dafremen Meet_patty_on_a_bum? Sound like a British town. I'm from Patty on a Bum in Middlesex England. It's near the city of Pokejaquelineshire. 030726 what's it to you? who go blather from