gothic silentbob pale skin odd jewelry monochrome black wardrobe sense of melancholy the other kids shun them for 010101 ... ass facely goth 010101 ... sabbie ::sobs:: but silentbob, im getting a tan! not through any fault of my own, but the harsh sunlight where i live fades anything black on the line after 3 hours, and inflicts on people a tan, even after they slather on suncream like ... well, like people who want to be protected from the sun. does this mean i have to give back my goth membership card, and hand in the long-black-skirt uniform? ::sabbie looks downcast:: well, at least i still have the right expression, even if the skin colour has let me down. 010102 ... silentbob hahaha No, sabbie, you certainly don't have to dismember your membership to the Goth Fan Club or anything drastic such as that thats just a stereotypical goth type kid and doesn't really reflect on whether or not they are "Gothic at heart" if thats at all possible. i wonder what i am "At Heart." I am a punk at heart? i am a goth at heart? i am an anarchist at heart? am i an atheist at heart? or am i just "At Heart" me at heart. 010102 ... misstree people are all pieces... terms like this can be used to simplify, or over-simplify... i am a goth, but i am also a hippie, a poet, a gypsy, a geek, a mage, a pothead, a sociologist, and a bitch. bobby, yer bob, and yer wonderful, whethere you're also a goth or not. 010103 ... brett a tribe from the dark ages come back to haunt us? or a bunch of kids trying to rebel, unable to see outside the new pop culture they're unwittingly part of? 020703 ... moocow I think goths are interesting. I can't help but admire the way they dress, especially the ones with neato black makeup dripping from their eyes... wow. 020703 ... queen of darkness i'm one of those teen goths you're talking about... the ones who listen to depressing music and write songs about death and sadness and wear black and tonnes of eyeliner that's me it doesnt mean i'm always depressed though... and it doesnt mean i dont have friends the queen of darkness is my alter ego my gothic side... she rules 030829 ... Death of a Rose Then bare your fangs and let flowers fall. 031011 ... ferret the roses burn at the touch of the sword 031011 ... nomatter Mr. Dirty Mouth 031011 ... Raven Gentlewolf I'm one of those teenaged goths,the ones who get put down alot called fake and the lot,sterioptyped. There is no set gothic standard. I"m Not one fo the Steriotypical "Marylin Manson worshipers","Depressed","Anarchist" and teh like. I never really had a troubled past- Just some very angry thoughts. I enjoied the music (Except for MM....well okay One song), the clothing(Expecially designing your own then wearing it and having people give you odd looks.),aswell as I'm an extreme fanatic of Medival Ages,black,Sharp things,Paeganism(And OTher Religions),and more. So really what i'm saying is-don't put labels on people. the Population is not a bunch of Cambell's soup. 031214 ... iNsEcUrE_GoTh_GiRl ok now i just want to say that liking marilyn manson doesn't make you a stereotypical goth, and i get very angry when people say that, especially if they act as though it is stereotypical. i like marilyn manson. i dont think im a stereotypical goth. maybe i am, but i find it offensive when people at school say that, and now i find somebody saying that being depressed and liking marilyn manson is stereotypical. im sorry, but i really dislike that generalisation. I am a teenage goth too, and I haven’t had a troubled past either. However, I think that if you say that there is no set gothic standard then by saying that you ‘aren’t one for the stereotypical marilyn manson worshippers, depressed,’ etc, then you contradict yourself and are setting up a stereotype, There may be a stereotypical way to view goths, and that might be it, but its not fair to box people up and we should be trying to eradicate the stereotypes and prejudices in the world, not feeding them. 040129 ... misstree if you don't want to be stereotyped why do you use a subculture as part of your very name? if i walked up to people saying, "hi, i'm tree, and i'm a goth," well, then, how could i expect them to see me without thinking i should be a "typical" goth, especially if they don't know or realize that there is no set of rules, no "thou shalt not enjoy the daylight and thou shalt not be perki and thou shalt (love or hate) the most visible pop figure that seems to share certain qualities with this broad subculture." (and, i have to note for posterity's sake, that stereotypes become even more meaningless as the peer age goes up; once away from the strongest socializers, aka away from the hell of high school and usually past college, goths really blossom into irrepressible individuality. this place just happens to be heavy with a younger age range. not a bad thing, just a point of perspective.) 040129 ... MeKoy dont worry if they call you a sterio type your only goth in your heart. besides real people dont need lables. if u like marylan than so be it. dont give a shit what they say. like i sayed your goth in your heart so marylan would be a part of your being a goth! 040208 ... MeKoy 4 the reord the goths were a tribe that coguired much of Germanie centeriers ago. they wear ancery symbolys, made theme selfs pale, got rid of all there eyebrows, and few only came out at night. 040208 ... J4n3 3/\/6L158 i have been going to a christian private school for 9 years now, and i have been called weird all my life, that really bothered me as a kid, but now i dont care, people have even taken up saying, she not weird, shes just jane lol, but recently people have also taken up calling me gothic, i do not appreciate this, because i dont consider it to be a bad thing to be gothic, because i find ''gothic styles'' to be quite attractive, but the stereotypical view of goth to them is, a devil worshiper, i am a strong christian, who like s to wear black, is that such a bad thing? i have been asked by just about everyone in my school if i am gothic, we wear uniforms, so i usually reply, what makes me so gothic? do you see me worshiping satan? wearing all black?(i do wear all black, but the uniforms, usually prevent it, but this was a good comeback, even though it was a little hypocritical), do u see me at a CHRISTIAN school? o, and i suppose my rainbow show laces make me even more gothic right? well...that usual puts the person into a state of confusion, just enough to make them leave me alone, they are usually then satisfied to call me goth from across the room, i think about how i am treated, and i am not trying to have a pity party here, but i realize that it is not so much the style itself but that it is a minority of sorts, there are more people who would wear abercrombie and fitch clothing(not that their is anything wrong w/ that)than someone who would wear black lipstick. i guess there really is such a thing as strength in numbers, when ever you hear that phrase, it makes you think of a bunch of small good things going against 1 bigger bad thing. but i realize, that it can go either way, the strength in numbers, those who have come together to be strong together, might not be on the correct side...it really makes you realize, that we live in the real world, good doesnt always prevail. 040313 ... oldephebe let dead echoes be reborn. to rise out of the black pit, the stygthian murk and take new shape, old laments in new mouths..burning tide of tears gushing out of this passion pyre...let it LET IT be. Let the tender time take hold of the old and new and let the cork screw be ground oh so deeply and deftly..purple symphonies of beethovian infinities pour OUT, pour OUT! upon the new, the reconstituted flesh and let it. (pause, oh yes, quite..a dramatic pause, please feel free to pour in your own grief and tantric sorrow into this lacunae...there..that's it! *smiles brightly*..) Let all the primordial muck of the misbegotten and unhonored things.let them howl, let THEM..HOWLLL!! Taloned hand gnarled with grief reach into the prideful, obdurate nihilistic heart of modernity and teach them..reach them at their most pathetic and vulnerable and naked core and let every sad note sung into them bleed blackly into life again and writhe like newborn fire maggots out of them..let the endless train writhe out of them..and see how far, how so very far their proud pretty heads fall into their chests... sorry guys, 040313 ... DaughteroftheMoon I am goth I prefer medieval looking clothing but the majority of it must be black I am not depressed, but jaded hopelessly jaded my love was stolen away by the pretty silly ones whom i now refer to as the kelpies and now he makes fun of my dark side when he encouraged it to flourish. sorry if this doesnt seem to make sense 040314 ... daugherofthemoon I go to private school too i wear no makeup and the ones who dont know me still ask if i am goth course they would not know prep if it kicked them in the ass, they think they are just normal. screw those who call us devil worshipers and ask us to curse so and so for them Rock on jane. i am pagan my best friend is catholic and i cannot curse anyone. once again this may not make sense 040314 ... DaughteroftheMoon email me people i need someone to talk to 040314 ... oE i thought what you shared out of an authentic ache made excellent sense..be strong, be strong in idle eyes..ask them when they respond or open their rotting rectum mouths, "is that it? is that all your anemic imaginations can conjure?..ask them "Do you think your words have power to wound me? Do you think you've said something not eminently worthy of being gushed out on toilet paper to be flushed and forgotten forever?" you are are surface and you shimmer and one whisper, with One whisper you (will)fall to shatter. Porcelain princesses." .... okay maybe really none of my business..you obviously can speak for yourself..i guess i gotta little carried away.... 040314 ... DaughteroftheMoon its no problem i like responses gives me something to read 040314 ... daughter of the moon if i could write I would write my heart out in a work titled: Requiem for a lost love betrayal barely begins to describe the feeling I felt when I realized I had lost him anger was the first the second misery, who loves company, but could find none to relate with. "For I have sworn thee fair and thought thee bright, thou art as black as hell and as dark as night." I would have said If I had not already realized that he had not been lost, but stolen. seduced by one, the kelpie, I now call her. I know that she will kill his emotions and all that will come back to me is a strange face with the same emotions I now feel. sorry if this doesnt make sense. 040314 ... yep still makes sense 040314 ... oldephebe place your hand upon my heart, and touch nothing, for it does not beat, my eyes are empty alters...once my mouth was filled with fire..once i was gripped by this amost aboriginal reverance, bred to a fate to a design that..above all others on this battleground of the heart, where the carnage of discarded, wrent, unbeating hearts lay strewn..once i thought that this brief transcendance that'd catapaulted me out of this living shell of sheol was worthy of the fall into the sea of chaos into which i would certainly fall after these passion pyres had all but bled out..there was that time when both our bodies writhed in sweat, the holy ardor of complete absolution, the beads of sweated ecstacy hurled into the open vault of heaven like so many meteors racing across the night sky. My fate spoke itself unto me from the edges of your your beatific smile. Something sour and dissonant at the very frayed edge of a beautiful note. Yeah, verily the sky in that brief flickering of your eyes votive flames showed itself as it really would be. Plcae your hand upon my heart, touch nothing, for it does not beat. ... 040321 ... oE *something ragged, something sour at the edges of the beautiful notes tone.. *something brittle breaks at the