daf unhinged yeah, well i'm disappearing again for a week the beach calls glad everything is going so well for you and your family. mexico or some shit is it? geez... 020606 ... Dafremen Hey do0d! Yea Mexico...or some sh*t like that. Where are YOU off to again? 020606 ... unhinged just got back from north_carolina. at this point in my life i am supremely annoyed with my parents and i would have had a much better time without them but that's the way it goes i guess. smoking pot by the ocean at night is a wonderful experience. there are so many more stars in the sky. and our house had a most beautiful view of the sunset every night. a week from tomorrow i'm off to milwaukee for five weeks again. i'm having mixed emotions but i want to move out of my parents' house for five weeks cause they are driving me batty so it works out in at least one aspect. i know you've kind of alluded to it before on here, but why exactly did you pick up and move to mexico? i know you are happier there and what not so it's great but moving to a foreign country is not a slight thing. 020615 ... Dafremen If you knew the culture, the people, if you knew the way a person can REALLY own something down here. The way you can sco0p opportunity up in your hands and at the end have something worth calling your own, if you knew the freedom and the reluctance to allow ANYONE not even the government to take it away (the general UPROAR every time it tries), if you knew the way the people respect you when you are deserving of respect and the way that a person's word is still his bond, the way credit is freely offered and debts are quickly paid so as not to lessen the value of one's word. The way a man's family is sacred and his beliefs are his own, nevermind the largely Catholic population, they are certainly not Catholic in their tolerance for other ways of being and believing. If you could see and feel these things first hand, you would understand why I am here do0d. I wish you would read some of the things I have written again do0d..the one's about the nature of human existence. It's in there and it really is the logical conclusion to all of the searching that life has in store for you. I'm happy now do0d, more so than I have ever been, I would like that for you too. 020615 ... unhinged well i maybe the happiest or maybe 'least unsettled' that i've been since you've known me at this point. happy isn't quite the word for my current living conditions but at least i'm not horribly depressed. my relationships over the past year, while they have sunk to new depths of unbearable stupidity and pain, have taught me a lot and the new me is anxious to be on my own. one more year in youngstown (yes i am graduating college in only four years; yippeeee) and i will be my own woman finally so i understand your happiness in being in your current position. mine is not that far off and i am beginning to taste it. that and my friends are getting back on track to their road to stardom and it's so happy to see them so happy. if all works out and they get signed i could be a major label recording artist in the not too distant future. while i have had some lock myself in a public restroom and cry my eyes out moments in the past year the way up is getting more triumphant every time. i guess that's just another one of those insights_into_libra . 020615 ... Dafremen It's still coming do0d. I'm just not as afraid of it anymore. Cryptic? Naww...it's partly why I left in the first place. 020928 ... Dafremen unhinged, I miss yakking with you do0d. yer bud, Daf 030404 ... Bizzar Wrote me a very sarcastic email yesterday, or some time before it. I dont know what you were talking about daf... check ur email. 030927 ... oldepehebe wait..unhinged..you're a libra? ok then that explains it..(the it si someyhing good) 030927 ... Bizzar What the hell. Where is everyone on elevenation? No one has posted there in a while... :-( Daf... I need someone to have a real convo with... where are you? 031031 ... Dafremen Hey there! I've been having phone company problems. I understand what you're saying, but remember, getting a discussion board going is work. Check out blather red and you'll see what I mean. Participation is everything until the number of members gets to be significantly more than than the 14 that we currently have. So think of things, add things, supply ideas and respond wherever possible whether you feel you have anything useful to contribute or not. Chances are, your idea of useless information is someone else's idea of insightful. I just got done adding a bunch of posts there. I'm going to spend a few days this next week getting the board into something closer to the shape we want it in. Still reliant on the MSN connection until I can find someone with a handle on MySQL who is willing to invest some time in this thing with me. User24 has been willing and helpful, but very busy apparently. Plus our time zone differences make sychnonized efforts very difficult. Perhaps I'll go onto the vampire shift just to get it up and running. 031101 ... oE hello daf wherever you are. 041120 ... Bespeckled I made a list of some of my favorites from among your recent postings (post-"daffy's back"), but decided not to include them here after all - I'd rather not sway the opinion of another who may read what I am writing here someday, so that they may approach your words unbiased and as open as I always am to every word you write. Welcome back, my friend, my buddy, my sorely missed do0d. You've been through a lot - more than I know and more than I can imagine, and so have I. I'm not sure about you, but I've certainly reached the point where I wasn't sure what was real and what was not, whether you were a true blue friend or a wisp of smoke in a blue wind. But I realize now that, despite the weeks and months between each cycle, we are there for each other in time's peaks and valleys and that simple fact brings a smile to my face and a warmth to my heart. I'll see you around. -P&C 041207 ... daf You will always be my bud too P&C...always. 050802 ... ILove Yea, it may be very well that I am running in circles, wasn't that the purpose of the stupid f***s who trapped us down here. It was pretty much a given we couldn't get out of this mess, especially with the religious electronic implantation. Now who the hell would choose this path, some sadistic group of control freaks. Now really, why would we? Have you been shown this? Yes, it is sure love will save the day, so we don't go and blow ourselves from here to eternity, but what we need is some f***ing freedom fighters. Yeah, lets just go on to the next level, the fact is we will still be trapped on this planet. Now, this planet is kinda nice, its nice to have a body sometimes, but when I want to go cruising the galaxy, well I don't need some mind controling freak preventing me from doing so! The freaks that put us here probably already destroyed themselves anyways, so lets concentrate less on the next phase in evolution, and get the f*** out of here! Are there any takers? I am sick and tired of being chastened or having instant Karma or whatever you want to call it. It is for sure most of us are good people, there are a few sickos, but they just had a heavier load of zaps from the freaks. The thing is, we think chastening is helping us learn a lesson. It is not! Yeah, that is why we are on a downward slope into blasting each other into oblivion! It makes no sense. I am sorry to ruin your blathe daf, but truth is what we need! All religion does is talk in circles, with hidden mysteries, begging for people to find the hidden answers. A total distraction. And guess what, in what name are more people being killed all over the world? It sure isn't the ones telling the truth. This deception has created more deception and now we have you daf giving us half truths. Why doesn't anyone just come out and say just what the truth is? Why all the symbols and half hidden truths. Just come out and say what you know!!! What creators, what purpose? Just a straight answer for once. But don;t be surprised if you can't. cause this is the state of man. We need freedom fighters! Calling all freedom fighters!! Yeah, we still need to love each other for obvious reasons, and if there were some spared the worst, thanks for the hints. Goodnight all! Sorry to ruin your blathe daf, but the confusion you feed is not cool. You preach: never teach your kids to lie. Well isn't half truths the same thing? Just make me understand daf, secrets lead to more secrets. 050914 ... ILove Can you please yell back at me or something. I really need to feel better too ya know. I wanted to tell you that those with the 9 influence piss lots of people off. I have a knack of doing that as well, cause we are usually concerned with the truth. We want to get to the heart of the matter. The number 9 vibrates to the planet Mars. (this is out of Star Signs)It represents aggressive action, courage and conflict. 9 is the number of originality and intiative...also the contradictive traits of vulnerability and naivete. Why we are always surprised by life. Jesus was a number 9 by name, and people think he was pussy footing around!! My dear Aqua husband, bless him, is all the time hearing from me: "just quite beating around the bush, get to the point already(quite huffy)". I really try to be good, but I am a freedom fighter. I hope you are all right tonight. Daf...your wife is lonely...it may seem like the dark side as been unleashed...she is just very mis-understood...soo lonely. I am not saying its your fault, it is not. Actually, I wrote something the other day, I am gonna come back and post it in a few. P.S. still not brave enough for my own string...you can kick me off if ya want! 050916 ... ILove Selma...And when it all boils down to it, after all we say that we pretend we mean, its all about me. When we put ourselves first all the time, there is not much time left for others, and thats what it has bolied down too. But really no one particular person is at fault, it is everyone, and everywhere you go. It is the parents who can't wait for the childeren to grow up, so they have the house to themselves. It is the teenager who thinks their parents are stupid, and knows they can do it better. It is the child who can't wait to do it on their own, from getting dressed to brushing their teeth. It is the mom who says, grow up do it yourself, to the dad who says grow up do it yourself. I am not sure if the circle will keep going around, or end with a bang. But all myself can do personally is try to change. If we could all have un-conditional love, then it wouldn't matter if we ever learned to do it all on our own, because we would have each other. But we have the mess some people make, or the toilet seat left up, or she does this or that, or he does this or that. And we can barely stand to be around each other. All the bad habits that we have no tolerance of do not show love to one another, it is no wonder we have evolved this way. Is this the lesson of life? I really don't know for sure, but there is an underlying current of love and not hate, otherwise why would we even try. It so much makes you afraid to fly, like a little bird who doesn't believe. And when you are one who keeps trying and never seems to get it right, well then look out, there is no one about. I think the solution to the worlds problem is un-conditional love. Now to just figure out where to start? ----- Original Message ----- 050916 ... Arwyn where are you? i get occasional messages from you, but you're never