insights_into_libra Dafremen Two Librans of the same or opposite sexes, adults or children, will spend a great deal of their time together talking. All the subjects will be enthralling...but the subject matter isn't important in a discussion between two Venus-ruled people, nor is the question of who wins and who loses important. What's important to Librans is the excitement of a mutually stimulating intellectual debate, which they find mentally energizing, like a tonic. Unlike their debates with other Sun Signs, verbal exchanges between these two usually ends in a draw anyway. Each of them starts out choosing a side, and as things progress, they begin taking a different side, then trading sides in the middle, until an onlooker is totally confused. All the while, the two Libra opponents are happily enjoying themselves. - from Love Signs Libra/Libra chapter I could have told you THAT! : ) 020425 ... Dafremen To a Libran person, life is an adventure to be shared. Little in the adventure is of any consequence without someone with whom to enjoy it. For this reason, Librans are constantly holding together relationships that died had long ago died; they are , after all, suckers for the underdog, defenders of the lost cause. 020425 ... unhinged damn being a libra damn it all to hell and damn her for being a pisces 020425 ... Dafremen Libra men and women are so exhilaratingly intelligent, and, at the same time, such pleasant optimists that most people simply adore being around them. They can transform a fancy ballroom from dingy to brilliant just by smiling. They are mental pencil sharpeners who stimulate your ideas and set your thoughts to briskly jogging in the fresh air of their logic. They can make raindrops seem like crystals and image ordinary soap bubbles in the bath or shower into a glorious montage of make believe pink balloons. But...speaking of balloons, did you ever try to punch a balloon? You get absolutely nowhere. The balloon merely slips away from you, however many times you punch and pummel it -- still puffy and bright and airy, still floating. It's enormously frustrating. In order to make any impression whatsoever on a balloon -- if your wish is to deflate the poor thing for some mean, nasty reason -- the only thing that will work is to be armed with a sharp, pointed pin or needle. - from Love Signs Virgo/Libra Chapter That's me! A balloon. (Red...not pink though : ) 020426 ... unhinged finally something my personality disagrees with "pleasant optimist" yeah right 020426 ... Dafremen you must be out of balance. You poor dear....do0d. 020427 ... unhinged yes, i always find it highly ironic that i am supposed to be represented by a scale because i am always out of balance. way out of balance 020427 ... Dafremen You need a vacation. A family to coddle you and feed you yummy tasties to your heart's content for a month or so while you lounge around. I just got done helping another Libran get through a really bad inharmonious time in his life. I had just met the do0d a week or so before, but he seemed cool enough and besides, I kept an eye out (I'm certainly not as dumb as my actions might indicate). Well we ate well every day and he got to sleep on a spare bed in our living room, rent free for a month. Nothing to do, no people to deal with...just doing what HE wanted to do, sleeping in when HE wanted to, walking out the door when HE wanted to WITHOUT someone asking him where he was going and why. He left in much better shape than he came. Then he went right back into the relationship with that chick again. Guess he showed HER! (Glad to have helped...that dumb@$$! : ) 020430 ... unhinged yeah, i definitely need a vacation, but going home isn't much of a vacation for me because my dad is so strict. 020430 ... bethany if there is no balance i steal it mostly by hiding until the silent calming weighs out the shite day i just had but there are always opposites in my demeanor and my head i stylishly (and expensively) redecorate my apt but the mess is real bad insightful? 020501 ... Dafremen To a Libran, talking is a contact between minds above and beyond mere communication. It is equivalent to a caress or a nudge or even a slap on the back. It can be as stimulating and magical as fingers touching, desperately seeking that touch in return, as meaningful to us as an embrace or a kiss can be. The spoken word becomes a smile or a slap in the face to us, a toussle of a loved one's hair, a kick in their shins or an impromptu arm wrestling match. To a Libran, speech represents these same sorts of contacts, but outside the physical world, on the playing fields of the mind. It is a mind reaching out to communicate, in the sincere hope that the heart's intentions will be understood and, in many cases, with the hope that the contact will be reciprocated. We live in our minds, but are driven by our hearts, and it is this strong need to share the mind's fancies, or the heart's desires, to hear another's in return, that often drives us to speak, sometimes incessantly. To have attempted to shut us up, or to have raised us to hold our tongues in the name of societal acceptance, is to have asked us to live in this physical world with you, to give up a world where hands are freely offered and held, where hair is toussled without fear and where fingers (and minds) meet in that tender, loving caress that, for a few moments at least, serves to relieve the loneliness of the human condition. 021008 ... no reason what about libra + pisces? 021008 ... x or gemini and capricorn? i've done this twice now and it seems to be totally different this time... 021008 ... squint bites lip yes. how about aquarius and libra? *(giggles into keyboard)* 021008 ... unhinged while i am not daf, i would say be very careful with those fishes. they aren't very trusting by nature and libras are overly trusting at times i think. the disparity of trust is heartbreaking to many libras, myself included. i find myself missing my personal fish more and more everyday, but i don't know if i can trust her with my heart anymore. just be very cautious with the fishes. the opposition of our very natures can make things difficult without either of you meaning it to be. 021008 ... no reason i don't know if i fit into that description...i don't really think he needs to be wary of me...maybe i should be blathering on a pisces page instead. 021009 ... Dafremen The fish is the most sensitive and empathetic of all signs. Take it easy on the fish, they have a hard time keeping up a reasonable semblance of a self esteem as it is. The primary problem with Libra and Pisces lies between the lines of this dialogue: Libra: Let's do it this way. Pisces: (As usual) Why? Libra: I dunno, but I'm SURE this is the way to do it. Pisces: Why? Libra: Listen, there's no time for this bullsh*t. Let's just do it this way!! Pisces: Sure, but why? Libra:(agitated and starting to show it) Ok, listen, I don't know why, I just know that this is the way and if you ask me again I'm going to do it without you. Pisces: Ok, you do that..I'm just going to be over here...(Exit stage left.) The funny thing is that Pisces and Libra BOTH find each other mutually fascinating. 021010 ... Dafremen DISCLAIMER: As anyone who knows me is aware, I'm not into young folks doing stupid sh*t because they think they WANT each other in a loving way. Love comes with time and trial by fire and I think sex is just a stupid, shallow experience without love. Please hold off and get to know someone WELL before you decide to get sexually intimate with them. Knowing them well means seeing them at THEIR WORST within the confines of a romantic relationship as well as at their most attractive and enticing. It means knowing each other over the course of many months or, more likely, over the course of years. Sex without REAL love is like two people agreeing to be sex tools, objects for each other's mutual masturbations. Ok, enough of the disclaimer and the lecture...on to the good stuff. Daf - If you want to get on more intimate terms with Libra, try unobtrusively caressing his or her lower back when dancing or strolling together. The small of the back and the buttocks are very sensitive. When the relationship has progressed to the point where you are both in the bath or shower together, pay particular attention with a sponge or washcloth to Libra's lower back and buttocks. Gently sponge this area and lave with warm water until the skin is rosy. Both male and females of this sign are very partial to having their buttocks rubbed, fondled, patted, and gently pinched. An erotic massage technique that is sure to put Libra in the mood for love is: 1) With Libra lying face down, begin the massage by gently clutching one buttock in each hand and moving them in a circular motion. 2)With fingertips barely touching flesh, stroke the buttocks up and down with feather-light touches. 3)Do the same, using just fingernails. 4)Using four fingers of each hand, place fingertips lightly on the buttocks, one finger at a time. Move quickly and lightly so that all the fingertips touch the skin in rapid succession. Position hands so that the fingertips will land in the cleft between the buttocks. By now Libra will be sexually aroused. - from The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need / Astrology and Health Chapter / Libra Section 021012 ... squint meh. doesn't apply to THIS libra. Not particularly, anyway. 021012 ... cancerian freakizh hahahaha. funny as hell. 021013 ... Dafremen It not only applies perfectly to me, it also applies perfectly (according to the missus) to what one of her female friends told her when they were yakking about girl stuff. Fortunately I have what passes for a nice ass, so mine gets frequent attention. By the way, squint, I think when she was talking about the cleft,I don't believe she meant as in to dig into the persons buttcrack. I think she meant that area at the very bottom of the small of the back. 021013 ... squint daf, I know. or would you rpefer i say something like "oh that clears it all up! I was wrong, you were right! silly me!" cus if you prefer that, i'll say that, in hopes that it will shut you up. 021013 ... freakizh buttcracking? lovely, both of you. i got the breasts! and i'm not trading. 021013 ... Dafremen Nothing will shut me up squint, and I've just recently felt like bringing my sarcasm back for a spin about blather. If you'd LIKE I could take it for a spin around you, but I sort of like the company that only a bitter, argumentative Libran can offer. If it's any consolation, you can disregard the impossibility of your quest and keep after your Holy Grail. I'll try not to spoil it for you. Wouldn't want that! But seriously, I don't think that you DID understand the buttcrack thing because I doubt that would know a buttcrack from a lower back anyhow. Here's a hint: It's that thing you keep flapping in your half-witted, vain delusion that because I haven't started cutting up, I am not capable of doing so. Well dear, this boa constrictor has gone about a year without eating any greasy little piglets. Are you standing up and offering yourself up as the sacrifical oinker for the Lo0-Ow? I certainly hope so, I could use a light snack. Tell you what, should have internet in about a week or two, I'll give you all of the buttcracking excitement that your sadly-in-need-of-high-performance-parts-before-you-get-into-it-with-me sarcasm can handle. Deal? Now sit down sister, you're starting to make me entertaining again. Your bud, daf. 021014 ... minnesota_chris why does "entertaining" sound so much like "mean"? 021014 ... Dafremen Because there's only so much abuse that a person will take at the hands of another's ego, before one's OWN rather enormous ego decides it wants to hit back. Welcome to the wonderful world of old_school_daffy newcomer. Enjoy the show. 021014 ... Dafremen I love this blather. It's been so wonderfully and mischieviously cobbled together with old newsprint, toothpaste and a little spit. "old_school_daffy"...gawd I crack me up. 030427 what's it to you? who go blather from