america_really_is_a_bunch_of_ignorant_idiots karl the weed really it is. you know, im too tired to think straight, and i think im all ranted out for tonight, would someone please rant about this for me? 031229 ... bird and how terribly, ironically american of you to resort to such a cheap generalization 031229 ... realistic optimist are you american? cuz it's fairly american to have the audacity to make a sweeping claim, but not have the chutzpah to see it through or support it with evidence. 031230 ... whitechocolatewalrus ignorant idiots are everywhere, not just america. every person has been ignorant and idiotic at one time, but that doesn't make that person permanently ignorant nor permanently idiotic. it just so happens that america likes to exploit its ignorance and idiocity more than other places. or maybe you just live in america and don't pay attention to any other place and are unaware of their problems. i think im done know. 031230 ... . karltheweedisanass 031230 ... oE yeah and sadly i am one of them..or can be at times.. 031230 ... cocoon my personal peeve about americans is how little they know about the world outside them. and i understand that their media is for shit and incredibly biased and just possibly the worst thing in terms of getting real news. but just really basic stuff like the general geography of the frikin world which should be taught in school. i mean, for crying out loud, ive had people asking me where europe is! to me that just fucking says it all. for crying out loud - how hard is it to understand the concept that the world does not revolve around you? but then again, thats the problem with most people(most americans). they think the world revolves around them. 031230 ... na na nehee boo it does!! 031230 ... somebody I wonder how the world would of turned out if Africa was the riches country in the world 031230 ... typo richest 031230 ... Africa ia a continent 031230 ... Africa is a continent. 031230 ... girl_jane hahahahahah-hehehehehehehehe-hahahaha Oh, I know it was an honest mistake, but the comment about Africa being a country-that made me laugh. 031230 ... oE What country are YOU from cocoon? 031231 ... The Spork We're not ALL ignorant idiots, even if there are Many among us and even if we had our last Presidential Election stolen On Behalf of the worst one of all Even though we are led by people who believe that God and The_Democracy_Fairy are somehow on our side regardless of how Guilty they are of Engineering these sorts of Nightmares We're not All Ignorant Idiots, Some of Us are both Trying and Hoping for better So don't act like one of the Ignorant American Idiots by Painting us all with the Same Brush, mmmkay? 031231 ... cocoon to oE im from kenya, but i live in the netherlands right now. and to The Spork. im not trying to generalise. my post came out sounding worse than i meant it to. its just something that bugs me. like i said, my personal peeve. no harm meant. 040101 ... The Spork That's alright, I was responding more to Karl's remark at the beginning of this blathe, so It's no problem. 040101 ... karl the weed yeah well i didnt mean EVERYONE, not even the majority, just a lot, and unless im mistaken, more than pretty much any other country. 040101 ... p2 goddamnit i tried to avoid posting here but it keeps popping up so here goes fuck_you_and_you_and_you_and everyone else that makes this generalization it only shows your own ignorance and a special fuck_fuckity_fuck_fuck_fuck you to all the americans who make this generalization to the americans, are you saying that most of the people you know are a bunch of ignorant idiots? if not, then wtf are you basing this statement on? have you even been to any other countries? i've been to several along with a few of my friends in italy, one of my friends was sexually assaulted they were told by the italian policeman who took the report that "it happens, and it should be seen as a compliment" a bunch of guys tried to mug another friend in france simply because he spoke english yeah, truly a bunch of enlightened people i know where europe is i even know where kenya is unless you are saying that there aren't any ignorant fucks in your own country shut the fuck up and don't judge us all by the handful of tapioca_heads that you've had interactions with goddamnit 040102 ... TK *applauds p2* 040102 ... . http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040102/od_afp/lifestyle_britain_040102181601 040102 ... this is sad tsk tsk boys 040102 ... cheetah Alot of you piss me off. I mean, over 60% of the Americans are against the war, including me. Read the stats you bunch of pussyasses!!!! 040102 ... endless desire by the way... ive had to learn the geography of the world and ive had to memorize the countries in every continent in the world sometime or another if not many times. i can draw europe, africa, the middle east, asia as a whole, and (of course) north america free hand. ive never had to memorize south america. i suppose i should. senior year is when they focus on that the most. the point is, i know about other countries. every history teacher ive ever had has stressed the importance of learning about other cultures, opening our minds to new ideas, putting an end to ethnocentrism (or as much as we humanly can)...so i dont know what it was like at your junior high/high school/junior college (that's all i can speak for) but not all americans are ignorant about other places. sure, i can only remember so much after long periods of time, but it intrigues me...i listen...i learn. i am not an ignorant idiot. and if i am, then it has to count for something that i try. 040102 ... silentbob i don't know if the things i have to say will be helpful or harmful. people say "ignorance" and they mean it in a bad way. and it was meant in a bad way here. if you are ignorant to something, it just means you don't know about it. Not that you don't want to know, or wont learn about it later. or believe that the world revolves around you. or believe that your country is the best. that being said.... to say "60% of americans are against the war" is to suggest that the other 40% is "just ignorant," as if they just don't know whats going on, as if they are just uneducated about it. and that is the only reason they are pro-war. as if all we have to do is educate them, and 100% of us will be on the same side. As if everyone really does have the same opinion, and once they get the special information, they wont be ignorant anymore. As if ignorance and annoying nationalism are the same thing. We can tell people our opinions on the war and why its bad, but if they don't change their mind, they aren't ignorant for it. that isn't really the same thing. but really, every one of us is ignorant about a lot of things, and im sure that the 60% of americans (keep in mind i am one of them) are ignorant about a lot of things that have to do with the war, and iraq, and many other cultures. We know nothing. Being against the war doesn't make you "not ignorant" as if to say that 60% of americans just aren't ignorant. they're just completely educated and completely fine. as if "being against the war" means they just... aren't ignorant. they totally know whats going on with other cultures. and its just that 40% thats ruining it for the rest of the world. but the truth is 100% of us is ignorant, in every country. no one knows anything. nothing against cheetah, or anyone, but really... there's a lot of ignorance in the world, and attributing it to entire schools of thought and beliefs, pretty much just blaming ignorance on other people isn't going to make it go away, or make ourselves any less ignorant. there are people who are ignorant about some things and not other things. we just need to teach each other and learn from each other. 040103 ... minnesota_chris the ignorant ones get all the good press 040103 ... silentbob so do the pretty ones 040104 ... phil Didn't read any of that up there, just wanted to take a moment to say: I am imagining a room as it is described to me in a book each piece of furniture the entire body of the house the neighborhood trees every detail picnic table is a snapshot a picture taken a cut out of a memory of a real place a true event only my darkest imaginings could create such things but for each cut and paste job these worlds open up around these objects their history revealed leaping forth in my imagination overlapping one another this has always confused me. What am I meant to see, when am I certain I am seeing the here and now, not a single object's memory? To see the whole picture, outside of these illusions. He did not say it, I only heard it. 040104 ... phil Ya, interesting points, although none of them are anything. They are not complete or incomplete. They are not accurate or innaccurate. Nothing is neither nor is everything. Lose your mind an be at peace with hate. 040104 ... phil The world is only ignorant because you look at it that way. Look at this. We are alive. Chances are not good for this sort of thing to be happening. Considering how much bigger everything is than everything else it is hard to believe we are not squished like bugs every day by some giant cosmic sneaker. It is our insigifigance that let's us survive, and ignorance must also work in this fashion. There is simply to much to know, impossible to understand. there are no steps to prevent ignorance. I am not lost in myself, only speaking for myself. 040104 ... phil unexpected things are the only chance we have at calling it valuable. You just can't create that sort of big wheel spinny thing... 040104 ... phil You cannot call yourself ignorant. 040104 ... phil I am not ignorant. 040104 ... phil I can call PHIL ignorant, I read some of his stuff. 040104 ... phil Oh btw I am an american and I am happy to say, in general, as a whole, we classify ourselves as being better than everyone else. Why would we make a category we would fail in. We have computers, the internet. We go in outerspace, we do have sick people, and we sometimes bomb the holy shit out of some places. Not that any one of us is doing it, or that we find it necessary to do it on the behalf of others, or several other million excuses for each individual. I have never had any of these things happen to me. 1. been helped by a citizen of a foriegn country. well you see my point. We live over here, fuck off. If you think for some unfound reason you would be better in our position, by all means grow antennas and go live in the ground. You'll at least survive the whole thing that is bound to happen becuase Europe is a bunch of suckling pigs with such odd historical views Which just happened to rub off on us ignorant europeans living in America. Oh, no, wait, you are complaining about the NATIVE americans. Well, the white people who could get off the overpopulated potato loving cess pool known as sweden, ireland, spain, ect. stabbed and shot and fucked them all do death. So ha ha. Rot on your foggy wet castles, millions of them, all like the one's in Monty Python, were the French are so disgusting. 040104 ... phil *ones *where 040104 ... iNsEcUrE_GoTh_GiRl "phil Oh btw I am an american and I am happy to say, in general, as a whole, we classify ourselves as being better than everyone else. " ok now im going to say something. NOBODY is better than anyone else. you hear me? NOBODY!!! i dont give a fuck about the different countries. i'm british. i think that there are idiots in every fucking place. ignorant has already been covered. also look at yoourselves look at your posts how the fuck are we (as a world)ever going to stop racism when there are people who think that they are better than everyone else. this whole thread is stereotyping. it doesn't matter the reasons why. not all americans are idiots. you arent any better than the next person though. i'm not any better than anyone else. we all live on this world. we should all accept each other. its so fucking annoying when people put others down. nothing makes you better than anyone else. nothing at all. men women girls boys black white gay straight we should stop seeing boundaries when there are none. 040104 ... mon never been helped by a citizen of a foriegn country? you do eat right? and wear clothes? and read? and write? how much of any of that is solely derived from 'your backyard'? i get help from foreigners on a daily basis 040104 ... iNsEcUrE_GoTh_GiRl to bo honest i think this whole page is full of unfair remarks no wonder no foreigners have helped they've all been scared away by all the rantings. 040104 ... mon oh i hope my comment didn't sound like a rant i wasn't trying to argue just pointing out what i find as a canadian i am filled with help from all over the world many nations supply the fruit in my kitchen taking a look at my clothes, they are cotton, where di this cotton come from? it was grown by another hand in a land far away. i find that helpful. where were your clothes made? 040104 ... iNsEcUrE_GoTh_GiRl oh sorry, misunderstood you (*red faced*) its a shame that people dont appreciate what others do for them even when they don't know it. most of the stuff i have is made in some exotic place and i bet that a lot more stuff that i would never even think of has been too. also we are all from different countries, there are loads of different nationalities on blather so whenever you post on blather, you are talking to and are listening to a foreign person. blather helps people so logically you have been helped by a foreign person phil. 040104 ... endless desire oh i dont want to read this all. see what you started karl 040104 ... karl the weed haha i KNOW that was my exact thought, im not even bothering to defend myself. 040104 ... Grandpa Simpson who got shot in the what now? 040104 ... phil hits karl right in the liver. 040104 ... god at best. 040105 ... phil really? that's as good as it gets? 040105 ... Harrison i agree 040315 ... bobthebumb meow 040315 ... thunderbuck ram From a distictly foreign perspective its a nonsense to suggest America is a bunch of ignorant idiots; the implication being that such a phenomenon is greater there than in any other country. The issue really is that America is such a highly populated country with the most advanced communications, the freedom to express oneself, and is without doubt the most powerful country and projected culture in the world right now. The simple fact is we see, hear and are made more aware of numerically superior American idiots. Traditionally American education has focused on internal cohesion. This attitude has been bolstered by a high degree of self sufficiency in many areas and frequent bouts of isolationism. In such circumstances, ignorance of the wider world perhaps has been more prevalent. Many Americans simply have not had the need or seen a need to consider life outside their borders, unless forced to do so by their Government's actions, and then usually only from a limited military perspective. This has been changing fairly dramatically in the last 20 years or so beacuse of world events and the effective shrinking of the world through cheap mass communication developments and globalisation of industrial production. It's too easy to overlook what America has given the world in positive terms of drive and invention and to focus instead on the all too evident negative aspects of corporatism and potential global hegemony. In my experience, America is such an incredibly complex and diverse place that somehow is held together by a strange sense of "oneness". And yet States (and even areas within States)and different parts of the country couldn't be less alike in terms of culture, outlook, comparitive wealth, education and opportunity. Latent American idiocy needs to be kept in check by the rest of the world, because of its unique potential to cause devastating harm to us all through the projection of power, and the disproportionately negative effect that idiotic decisions of a few powerful but ignorant and potentially dangerous Americans can have. Equally, the rest of the world cannot afford to stifle the good intent and dynamism that flows from America, but need to emphasise the necessity of seeing the world as a wholly integrated but complex web of mutually inclusive interests. 040824 ... Elmo There is a certain point and logic to that one, but i think it's a rather sweeping, and extremely racist statement. More accurate would be to say "I think that the majority of americans are ignorant and stupid." That would still be crossing the line somewhat, but at least it's not sweeping racism. Got i hate bigots. 040824 ... Elmo God i hate bigots. Not Got. Bloody typo's. Bleh 040824 ... minnesota_chris I've spoken in Russian and Spanish, all within the past hour. This puts me in the top 1% of Americans. I'm not even employed. 040824 ... minnesota_chris oh, and very true thunderbuck_ram! And well said! And welcome. 040824 ... andru235 america is a long mountain chain with two sizeable eastward projections the usa is about 1/4th of it but as a human born in the americas i can't shirk my duties ascribed to me in the header, so i will ignore the preceding facts and take a cupcake topped with whipped cream and crush it under my armpit while yelling obscenities in an idiotic manner 050419 ... unhinged . 170620 what's it to you? who go blather from