i_hate_to_do_this irrelevant bystander and pollute Blather further, but I have to do a speech, on any topic, and I thought, "What better people to ask for ideas than those I've observed as being (mainly) interesting, intelligent individuals?" so if you have any helpful suggestions, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help! 030624 ... User24 blathes_that_make_you_think may be a good place to start 030624 ... irrelevant bystander Thanks for the suggestion, User24. As for the rest of you... Just because I'm not one of your elite little blather friends, doesn't mean you can't stick your head out and throw me a suggestion! I've actually been around here awhile, so it's quite wierd actually blathing after just observing for so long. But meh, I figured I wouldn't get much of a helpful response, so go on back to your own little world and I'll go back to what I do best - watching quietly 030624 ... god yeah, you bunch of elitist snobs! come down off your high horses and interact with people!!! i think we need more humor, but that's the kind of stuff i like. 030624 ... x yeah, insulting people who haven't said anything to you isn't the best way to get them to play your game. 030624 ... god yeah, you creeps! 030624 ... see? x, sure it is, dickhead. 030625 ... irreverent bicycler wow, you waited less than a day before getting pissed off. shite, what about letting people think about it for a bit? also, some people you'd prolly not wanna hear from, so their silence is their way of being helpful. as for my suggestion, i say click on 'go' and use whatever blathe comes up as a topic. i clicked on 'go' and got my_life_right_now, which might be an interesting topic... if i were more interesting... 030625 ... irrelecant bystander hey, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across as being pissed off. And thanks for the ideas :) 030626 ... SillyConfused um...I have no idea wat this is about and would like an explaination so if any one has an idea how I can be taught..Suggest? 030626 ... irreactant plysander i think it would be really kwel if you all got down off your balsa crutches and ate some oatmeal and prayed with me and then we went bowling for two days or something 030626 ... girl_jane_is_hated But it had to be done. It's already been done. We're done. I'm sorry that I hurt you, but I'm not sorry for anything else I did. 030627 ... endless desire "i hate to do this" she said leaning over alone in her room. but it's all i deserve, understand, i've come to far now. "i love to do this" she said leaning over ruining herself slowly. but it's all i deserve, understand, i've come to far now. "i will never do this" she said leaning over as she put her bowl away. and it's nothing i deserve, understand, i've come to far now. ((softlysheheardsinging)) and she realized it had always been but she was was too afraid to listen. 030627 ... Sparticus radio is broadcasting coming to you live from glenhaven. . . 030627 ... User24 bystander: please, write an essay with the title: Happiness is more important than Truth. Discuss. 030627 ... endless desire i am constantly battling with that issue. if you are happy and do not know what you are missing, than i guess it truly is. why know the truth if you are just going to be miserable with it? is it wrong to blissfully ignorant? or is it just fortunate? "blessed are the shallow, depth they'll never find. i seem to find some comfort in room i try to hide. a rose could never lie about the love it brings. and i could never promise to be any of those things." jars of clay. ((ignorance_is_bliss bliss_is_ignorant)) and i still can't decide which pill i am going to take. . . can anyone? 030627 ... dB Hi User 24. I've been around here for a while too, and have to say that the only reason there is a "blather elite" is because the non-elite don't talk. so feel free to bring it on any time. the elite won't bite... well maybe dafremen, but he doesn't mean it, honest. in keeping with the former idea, how about doing "Happiness is more important than desire". See if you can destinguish between the two, or find similarities. Bear in mind, if you allow us to give perameters to your own creative inituative then you may as well come up with something yourself. I hope you do well, in your own way 030627 ... irrelevant bystander hey dB, you're the new zealander aren't you? yay, go kiwis. i agree with what you've said, and thanks for the ideas. 030627 ... SillyConfused thank you everyone for no suggestion, but now i understand wat this is all bout and oh yea..guess im an elite cuz i talk? yes?...LOL 030627 ... User24 hello dB, i_hate_to_do_this, but I have to ask if we've spoken much before? I have a terrible memory, so please don't be insulted if we have, I just can't remember. What are the blather-elite? is there a definition, do they proclaim themselves elite, or are they proclaimed as such? Sure, there's the people who are here every day without fail, who seem to appear on every blathe, and seem to know everyone, is the only criteria for membership to the blather elite? and then there's how long people have been here, are you elite by default after 2 years of blatherage? I'd like to think that the group of people awarded most respect should be those who have words, sensible words, words to make you think, words to make to write, but I don't think that's the case (case in point: psyki) So tell me, blatherskites, are you elite, and why? 030911 ... Strideo elite A: A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: “In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them” (Times Literary Supplement). B: The best or most skilled members of a group: the football team's elite. _________________________________________ I wouldn't consider myself elite, but I don't think I really have to point that out. ... 030911 ... oldephebe okay i tried to address this question earlier but my seven thumbed hand accidently obliterated that nice and tidy and for once even linear (sure using linear after nice and tidy is redundant - that's why i wouldn't dare deem myself as being elite, inordinately parenthetical, borderline neurotic what with all the obfuscatory qualifications and all, but never elite) response to your question U-24. Um..I wouldn't elevate one voice over the other, i mean sure we are many voices, shades and hues, i've encountered the almost oracular here, i've encountered the almost pure soul of poetry, shafts of living light (almost, because after all these are just projections jettisoned out of the nebula of anonymity into these embroidered blue realms, yay! more parenthetical asides!) i've encountered eclectic and prodigious engines of cognition here..sure and many folks here can turn a prettier phrase than i, or write straight forward logical and compelling expositions compared to the hurly burly of my heaving seas of rhetoric..but to elevate anyone to the status of elite..nah..sure i like praising people authentically for sharing their life talent and gifts here but there's just something in me that recoils at the idea of celebrity or assigning any kind of exclusionary appelation to a group or even one entity in a cacophonous choir of babble such as this..that's just my thing..never been really comfortable with the idea of celebrity at all, in any venue - i mean sure you may be the best saxophonist or poet or singer or writer or dancer or whatever but i'm not going to buff the floor with my brow in some silly sycophantic dance of tribute or adoration..period. It's unseemly. later, ... 030911 ... oldephebe Originality, invention, vitality, whose to say what voice is imbued with these qualities to any greater or lesser extent than another? I don't think any of us are uniquely entitled or imbued to make those kind of unqualified judgements, or appraisals. Gather the sages, gather philosophers, gather the psychologists, gather the anthropologists eking out their empirical validations one grain of sediment at a time and all will give you a different apparatus of appraisal from wich to sift and distill their laborious conclusions from. Elitism, the very idea of it conjures up odious evocations, at least for me. Every line here excruciatingly plumbs the depths of the writer's (and some readers who experience identifiable kindred reverberations to what is written) humanity. We are telling our stories to one another. We are telling ourselves to one another, so I think the idea of elitism kind of negates the authenticity, the sacredness of these sagas we are singing out to one another. I think the appelation of elite blatherer would uneccessarily vault the recipient into an unearned and unqualified perceptual statosphere. We're passive, we're voyuers given the priveledge to live inside another's life so to speak. It is an honor to read these scarlet scrawls upon the wall, and to enthrone one life, one Life over another to me is to strike at the very antitheseis of what blather has come to be. okay climbing down off of soap box ________________________________________ later, ... 030911 ... User24 "We are telling our stories to one another." yes. 030911 ... misstree i am the l337 7r33! you will bow down before my power of being treelike! (pardon for the HaX0r mutilation) this is one of those questions that comes and goes in different forms, most people try to ignore it but have an opinoin none the less, and blather just wouldn't be blather if peeps kept their opinoin to themselves. ;) so, my official two cents, in as tight a package i can put it, i gives no fuck about elite, i'm just here to worship words (*singsongs: words, words, filling the box with lots of words*). there are people that i recognize, and people that i admire, but i do these things not because i am any more or better of a 'skite than the person that just happened upon this place yesterday, but because i am the most coolest of all the l33t superspecialmondomangotreesthatwearjingles on blather who are me, and that is what such trees do. or such tree does. okayi'mdonecanwegoflyakitenow? i could just see it... a quiz like the "how goth are you" abominations, "how blatherskite are you?" 'course, with the goth quizzes, each one had very different takes on what it meant to be goth and what makes one so, and each was ultimately meaningless. such a quiz on blatherosity would be the same. 030911 ... misstree this place reminds me of a family reunion, sometimes. for one damn strange family. 030911 ... once again Shits and Giggles http://quizilla.com/users/SunKiss240/quizzes/Are%20you%20among%20the%20Blather%20Elite%3F 030911 ... p2 <-- Baby Blatherskite 030911 ... realistic optimist i'm sure the time for paper writing is over, but if any of you would like to recycle my favorite speech, i would be happy to give you the gist. i gave a speech on symbolic logic, that evil practice of reducing a thing to polar opposites. my speech acknowledged that symbolic logic can be a useful early learning tool, but that any meaningful exposition or exploration of the topic, especially if such topic is at all comlex, requires a logic much more rich and gradiated than symbolic logic. and taht symbolic logic mainlsy servers to polarize and thus control the reaction of the listerner/viewer. oh and no one truly uber-1337 would call themselves uber-1337, and i am uber-1337. 030911 ... oldephebe You know, it's really fascinating, the idea of mans ceaseless attempts to verbalize this consruct we call reality, or the perceptual proclivities of varius orthodoxies of thought - logic meisters - i've tried and probably will try again to scour my neural soup of all those pesky emotional eddies. Failed. The vastness of the subterranian continent, the cognitive sub-conscious; I have been chided in the past for attempting to distill and and rely or equate clouds of conjecture with an infallible analysis and articulation of the unknown..usually poured through the narrow apeture of idiosyncrasy, mine. Or rather as my ex used to say "you are getting on my nerves, do you have to run your mouth about every thing?!" That's just it. There are some things I am convinced we cannot know. Sure and psyche 101 is just down the hall. I would be interested though in perusing your treatise R.O. I have to always question though the objectivity of mine or anyones idiosyncratic evaluations or analysis of his own mind, but still there is still some merit in the exacerbations and expectorations of descartesian, hegelian, Kant, Niechtze, Wittgenstien, Sarte et al. philosophical, perceptual cosmologies. One could lose himself in erecting the perfect apparatus of apprehension, and then miss the vitality of life unfolding around him. Just one guys opinion. Still though, I'd be interested in checking out your treatise - I'm pretty much a neophyte to the realm of rigorous philosophy but..let me get used to the water and I'm sure I'll find my way. later, ... 030911 ... User24 "You are a Bourgeois Blatherskite. You're doing ok" nice quiz :) 030912 ... User24 I, of course, would be interested in any discussions concerning thought and modes of it. 030912 ... oldephebe yeah yeah! more egghead conjecture! preferably by someone other than me! and what's that you said about burgers U-24? i like mine with a bit of proletariate mayo and the plebian melange of mustard and Ketchup, oh and some utilitarian high viscosity bacon if you please!! ... 030912 ... xy i lke u but dont know why i think 030913 ... harrison bergeron speaking of utilizing blather for one's own benefit, do any of you attend, know somebody who attended, or know anything about St John's Collge in Annapolis? I'm looking at it, I'm also looking for opinions on it. 030914 ... nomatter huh? 030916 ... once again User24 says, "nice quiz" and misstree says, "i could just see it... a quiz like the "how goth are you" abominations, "how blatherskite are you?" 'course, with the goth quizzes, each one had very different takes on what it meant to be goth and what makes one so, and each was ultimately meaningless. such a quiz on blatherosity would be the same." CHECK OUT THIS MEANINGLESS QUIZ: http://quizilla.com/users/SunKiss240/quizzes/Are%20you%20among%20the%20Blather%20Elite%3F 030922 ... girl_jane And it happened again... I need to stay away from boys... 030923 ... realistic optimist oops sorry guys. i went away and forgot to check back on this one. um i suppose i would like to see my treatise on symbolic logic too, as i fear i threw it away or somehow disposed of it, but it wasn't in any retrievable form anyway. my speeches were always 10% written 90% seat of my pants cuz that was the only way i could deliver them with any sense of momentum and dynamic. i suppose it mainly boiled down to this: symbolic logic is the placing of everything into the nice box of "a" and "not a" as if things are so discrete. although this makes the measurement of reality much easier i believe it makes the reflection of reality much duller and less full. imho, reality is analogue, math is digital. and no matter how often you sample reality, you can never make a curve with rectangles. its not so much a treatise and wonderfully rigorous exercise in philosophy as a hand waving argument, because that's how i think and talk. sorry to disappoint, but i'd love to discuss it further under symbolic_logic if anyone would like to carry this on any further. 031009 ... misstree i'd take you up on that, but i'm currently right in the middle of collecting blathes i need to print and start reading at lunch, so i'll leave that pit_bull to its slumber. (awwww, sweeping spit bull. *sigh* *smile*) 031009 ... bloody potato chip i want to throw donuts at you... powdered ones... 040101 ... dB going back to the original question. blather elite are what I consider good minds who have been here a whle and been able to demonstrate that they can think well and communicate their ideas. don't know if I'm "elite". that's for others to say. I will say though that I've been here for a few years and have read a thing or two. 040114 ... u24 there is no elite. there's old and new. and no judgement should be made on the basis of age; it's as wrong as racism or sexism. 040123 ... Death of a Rose i'm with god on this one. more irreverant humour and heavy sarcasm. oh and a healthy dose of blather insulting as well. . 040123 ... meta meta 060216 ... Doar but who has some mary jane? . 070807 ... . I love haunting this house, but I hate it when they fight... 070808 ... pete i know who does doar, but you're in the wrong province, let alone city, for that to do you any good. 070808 ... leave me alone stay out of my home! 070808 ... . And who may you be directing that to? 070808 ... forsaken by a toaster wow incredible 4_skites_at_once! ahahaha!!!! 070808 ... . well, if you fedexed or some such courier, to me in a mason jar (like a buddy did once), I would be immensely grateful. cuz I could use it right now and all my sources have left the province. . 071016 ... then don't 071016 ... jan but...i'm gonna. 071017 ... jane paoisu e-r0q27934klnh q2;34lkrn pqw9e8yfaklsmnf po23i4y p2i34nj ;lkj as9878dfo; 23mkl 2l;3k4j90cv-089v okqjw45 071017 ... Janes Mom: "JANE! GO TO YOUR ROOM RIGHT NOW!" 071017 ... Jain_Says parasparopagraho jivanam souls render service to one another TVS 5.21 071018 what's it to you? who go blather from