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one of the appeals of classical music is that there are no words to make it seem dated or insufficiently about something or else too about something.
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habanera
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also, the melody is quite often more varied than other types of music, meaning it doesn't get stuck in your head quite as easily.
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the world makes so much music. i hear it enough when i'm playing it.
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i like baroque and pre-baroque smaller compositions which tend to rely on counterpoint and harmony percell vivaldi bach handel marin marais bach bach bach bach
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sequences put me to sleep and bach is the pinnacle and bane of my baroque existence; legrenzi is pretty good too and what's that weird dude from the renaissance...uuuhhh...damnit i can't remember. my music history prof would be so disappointed. burnout timeout. all the german b's are hard as hell. but i tend to be more of a late classical and on girl and i'm getting into more and more nonserialistic 20th century the more i go to school. aaahhh, good ole shostakovich . he's in my top five of all time right now. such beautifully ugly emotion. fuck mozart in his pansy prodigy ass. give me haydn anyday. i was so trying to avoid this, but once again i failed myself.
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playing classical_music to your baby is supposed to make it smarter. when i was little, my parents listened to rock music, and look how I turned out.......
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bartok reich glass dohanyi cage satie bach bach bach bach
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conlon nancarrow
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no reason
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bach is baroque, if you want to get picky.
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read again, i like baroque. bach is himself, he just happend then because that is when he was born.
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no reason
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well, i was talking about his music, not himself. but you're right. i stand corrected. and apparently too lazy to read.
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baroque my heart
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z
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edgar mayer's contrabass renditions are phenominal
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debussy bach beethoven vivaldi
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Z-- Conlon Nancarrow rocks. his piano music is so extremely screwed. i loooooove it. Glass and Riley-- einstein on the beach... someone said that they are no words to make classical music dated? opera!? Choir music?! and themes don't get stuck in your head? Mozart's C major mass? Mozart - rock and roll at times
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noynats a fan
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Riley BACH!!!! Mozart Schubert Widor MARCEL DUPRE!!!! (variations on a noel) Messiaen stravinsky bartok varese Liszt (im a hopeless) Chopin (see what i mean) i am a fan i am a fan of phish too. they write more contrapuntally than you think
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any good rock band is just an american extension of the quartet tradition that haydn started a few centuries back mixed in with the intersection of african culture in america. that's why i loved ivet so much. they layed it down shostakovich style in youngstown. all their stuff the soundtrack of my life; dedicated to the victims of facism and urban war.
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oldephebe
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break it down for us unhinged :)
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i have to say some of mozarts opera's and choral works..show a deeper emotional, structural developement..ah besides the showy and yes saacherine, and or efette prodigy stuff..as as opposed to beethoven's compositional..soulwrenching and sometimes nearly impossible to play works... shostakovich - yup good to see Listz on the list pretty much have everyone else's choices on my list verdi - for me rules schumann there are one or two french composers i dig from the ah late 19th centrury..and ah... by the way yeah..love those teutonic b's
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ah phillip glass nice choice z AND Bartok..okay
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z
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my mom used to walk her dog with phillip glass. he was a (new york) taxi driver then. she said he was a nice guy.
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z
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i saw him perform a bunch of times. it was great.
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arvo paart david hykes
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one of my favorite sunday pleasures growing up was to go up to riverside church in lower harlem and listen to the bells. in the tower (very tall) the bells were arrayed (some the size of a big room in a house). we used to ride an elevator up to the platform and listen to the music (live) as it was played by the bell master in a booth up there. loud! a couple of times he invited us into the glass booth and showed us the control system which consisted of huge horizontal wooden levers arrayed as a keyboard. i don't think they were painted black and white. i remember some pedals too, reminding me of the pedals of an organ. i think the levers were operated by pulling upward (but i am not sure). it was a very beautiful way to make and hear music.
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let's not forget pachabel
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sameolme
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a carillon? Theres one on the Berkeley campus. A unique bell music that travels for miles and touches everybody, changes everything. For a little while everybodys individual script is set to the same score.
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z
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yes. thanks!
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notme
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i forget all those songs from when i was a child maybe the old dead people remember
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wow really? your mom walking her dog with the great phillip glass...okay..man i'd love to pick his brain..he actually is a cousin of the guy Ira Glass who hosts 'This American Life' from WBEZ Chicago Public Radio..it's syndicated on NPR. You can get the archives on real audio... Anyway Ira had Phil on for a few programs and they discussed family lore and the forces..ethnic and familial and environmental that helped forge each of their unique personas and talents...Ira's pretty cool. Phil glass...what more can i say? z - do you recall the name of the church in lower harlem? it must have been quite an experience...bells..a chorus of bells insinuating us into a state possibly more predisposed to contemplation of the spiritual or at least internal thanx for sharing ...
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and i have to say i was into "This American Life' and its asexual and self-confessed sometimes bi-sexual, funny iconoclastic erudite host Ira Glass waaaaaay back in December of '95. Excellent show. You can get it on your local NPR affiliate. You'll see. You'll be hooked the first time you listen... ...
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i mean he's always funny and erudite and all that..but the self-confessed sometimes bisexual part is what i was getting at...he's got a bustling hetero-sexual love life now..though..chicks are really into his vegetarian..dark clothes..almost anorexically thin..erudite or cerebral yet you know sarcastic wit..look..this whole elan he's maybe a little too meticulously cultivated..but still... you may want the unassuming piquiance of a white wine or red or maybe a not too robust and yet sculpted imported beer to accompany your listening and of course maybe the silent company of an equally bookish or at least eruditely funny and quirky close friend... ...
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polysyllabic poseur
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well the mostly silent company of a close friend..cause there's few oppurtunities for castigation and commentary during the intergnums between segments...
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it is named riverside church. it is famous. very liberal for a religious institution. big effect on the culture of new york for a while. i also enjoy ira's show. i did not realize the connection. thanks.
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You're talking about organ music. I think i need to repeat that Dupre is a god. messiaen too. Part is tinntinnawwesome. makes me cry. dont forget faures requiem. makes me sob Speaking of Riverside. Virgil Fox was the organist there for the longest time. He brought new life to organ music, bringing a pipe organ into Madison Square Garden and playing with a light show. what a man
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i love organ, but at riverside i was talking about the carrilon.
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yeah tintinnaulism..since you guys get it i'll spare you the brief tongue in cheek pseudo-pedantic commentary.. love that stuff...kind of like gregorian chant..to me.. i've heard of riverside..that's why i ah asked... TAL - great great show...wish i had the time to listen..like i did a few years back... i put on a little gregorian chant...recline and feel the irritability of the day fade away..i kick back sans narcotic or libation..feel my self softening under the wheight of the music and the various associations evoked...it's kind of intimate and sacerdotal.. ... i love that kinda stuff
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that's tintinabulism....minimalist..and somehow effulgent...
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z
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david hykes harmonics choir inspired by overtone singing of tibetan monks who were inspired by overtone harmonies in geology as created by a waterfall and the specific environmental conditions it falls on. best in person where the "image" of the harmonies is so distinct that it appears to float a foot above the singers. each singer self harmonizes by creating a pure tone with vocal chords and a secondary tone (also very pure) by controlling the size and shape of the oral cavity. i can do it crudely. it is roughly analogous to blowing over a bottle to produce it's resonant frequency (something to do with bernoulli?). a capella with no words as i recall. i can do without the new age stuff though.
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is there an url or mpeg you could refer me to? i'm...intrigued..needless to say..by your vivid encapsulation... ...
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http://www.furious.com/perfect/davidhykes.html
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z
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http://home.parks.lv/valtersf/hykes.html foreign language site with streaming mp3s. i like "telescoping" because the overtone harmonies can be heard distinctly as a harmonic whistle. the purity of the tones highlights the overtone series in the audible range.
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oldephebe
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thankyou
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you are welcome
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i performed in riverside cathedral in harlem in high school with my high school concert choir and chamber orchestra. it was palm sunday '98. i went to the service before our concert and it was one of the only times that a sermon has moved me in my life. the preacher was taking about the meaning of the word hosannah. i still have a palm in my violin case from that service/concert.
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oE
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do you recall who was pastor or who was preaching that day?..that's sermon i would've loved to have experienced..
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zeke
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dohanyi: string quartet # 4 beautiful paralel harmonies in the middle section - almost drones like a bagpipe for a minute
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what's it to you?
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