what_do_you_do_with_emptiness so fucking lost embrace it. 020428 ... blown cherry push it away so that I'm not even filled with emptiness anymore, just nothingness and pain 020429 ... Norm Take advantage of it and fill it with stuff. Good stuff or bad stuff. 020429 ... cube Use the time to better prepare yourself for the next encounter - for it will surely come. Stay busy and the time will melt away... ³ 020429 ... seth a) complain about it to everyone i can b)try to figure out why theres emptiness and how i can fill it out, which ussually just leaves me feeling mad and depressed and sometimes suicidal. c) masturbate 030921 ... pipedream ignore it and hope it will fill up...try to figure it out, be swallowed by it, climb out and avoid it before you get swallowed up again.. 030921 ... misstree savor it while it lasts, because you're going to have more than you want soon enough. 030921 ... z i be in it. 060510 ... Still not sure if I understand... "Where you are worth nothing, there you should want nothing." -- Geulincx 060511 ... z worth is a human construct. 060511 ... guess who the_facility_of_simplistic_responses 060511 ... z my above is only a neutral statement (to me). it is an invocation of my belief that assumptions should be examined carefully and that they should be shared. i find it quite profound, actually, perhaps comparable (but not identical) to some of the primary assumptions in Buddhist thought (as far as my shallow understanding of it goes). 060511 ... birdmad fill it with stuff 060511 ... misstree birdmad, what are you doing in my brain? 060511 ... grendel whatever you want me to do in there, Miz Tree heh. 060511 ... emmi squeeze it like a wet blanket, hang it outside in the sun to dry 060511 ... beguiling smiling z, if i harangue you about the_facility_of_simplistic_responses it is because your understanding about these things is "anything but shallow". since i'm never sure if i use that confounded phrase correctly, allow me to clarify. you clearly are a person of depth, and i find you much more illuminating when you elaborate or - rare though it may be in you - ramble. i know you are a fan of minimalism, but some of us need more, and you have much to offer. 060512 ... z phenomenology attempts to make connective tissue (or at least describe the construct that represents connection) between intentional mind artifacts like meaning and objects in the physical world. at different times people working in this model have claimed that this is both descriptive of an actual metaphysical connection and merely a model of our cognitive process. i find the former in it's expanded version belabored and am, therefore, more inclined toward the latter. moving the emphasis of metaphysics from the nature intrinsic in things to the intention that i bring to my relationship to them is very rewarding to me. i am left free (er) to examine what i know about them with less clutter and distraction than otherwise. martin buber, in i and thou, get's at this emphasis on the relationship and it's nature too. it is this re framing of meaning that, for me, comes closer to what i feel when i know something than most other ways of modeling reality. 060512 ... z i happened it. 060512 ... z in another mode of thinking, if space is a function of mass, then no space can ever be empty. 060512 ... (z) (unless, of course, it is infinitely small.) 060512 ... rage go out and try to help fill up someone else. we are together in our emptiness, alone in out lonleyness. the best you can do is spread the love. 060513 ... rage anyone else about to burst into song? 060513 ... hsg we print this agreement upon our collective consciousness, know? so then, yes. let us spread happiness. design seeds of good intent. winds will carry. then we may dance in propose`d happiness. if our imagination has no limits not because of many dimensions but because it has no prerequisite dimension, then in that quality is its point. the tiniest dot. the seed. empty sorta. cold. absolute zero. no vibration. therefore no space. music is to fill the void. it is all a dance. by one pattern or another, beyonduality and other superstitions, it is all a dance or it is imagination left with the feeling of blue balls. and we cant have that now can we? no. if i may quote anais_nin "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." we shall dance to fill the void. be it laughtor sorrow... it'soul good! deep inside we know better then to be bored. we will always return to that place of imaginetic origin. by prayer, by art, by competition. all extremes lead us home. a cosmic breath. to fill the void, follow thisimplessthan:) 1 exhale all the air out your lungs. 2 in the midst of extremeventual panic, you will bear a unique opportunity to gather your own attention with a considerable amount of leverage. take this time to remind yourself that all these things, thoughts, object&etc are merely vibrations of things you bounced off your imagination. 3 play and learn to smile. HuGS, 143 060513 ... sab well, after this many years i ripped up the photo into managable pieces most of it went in the bin and, pleased, i jsut kept the little bit that said this. much easier to cart around what_do_you_do_with_emptiness? rip it into managible chunks 060514 ... pSyche Emptiness eats people. It devours them from inside out. It starts in the middle and doesn't finish until it has eaten everything,and then it is still not finished. What can you do with it? YOu can only feed it. 060514 ... DannyH Make a brief inventory of the contents and then tick them off one by one. 060514 ... *Amy* I cut my wrist to let it flow out 060514 ... pSyche You try to fill it with empty things. 060701 ... aeh45Geayhae4h59ueas985huea98 Ask it questions. 060701 ... nineteen put it in a jar and save it for a rainy day. But for now, the sun is shining and you have the day off. Go sit by a pond and watch the turtles. 060702 ... Webley Put it in an empty box, and throw it away. 070221 ... pete no such thing. 070221 ... stephshine recognize it. move on. 070308 ... protester divide by it 070308 ... stephshine relish in the fact it is not filled with pain. 070309 ... unhinged cultivate_compassion in it 070310 ... Aw-shucks Dear Stephshine, its better to feel pain than emptiness... it's important to feel in life... pain is a big part of it... if you don't feel the pain, then how can you know the happiness? this is not from a sadist view point although i know pain too well... emptiness ... (or feeling flat) is the worst thing that can happen to you because you have closed your eyes to the miracle of life. Have a good evening x 070310 ... narduar "But the growing soul is watered best by tears of adversity!" -Charlie Brown to Lucy We were given a dazzling range of emotions and I think it's all right to experience them. Emptiness and pain included. 070310 ... sameolme I save up my empties and when I've got enough, I lash them together to make a raft. I float away on the vast empty ocean. Clouds above adorn the empty sky. Void in every direction, inside and out. 070310 ... unhinged buddhism_vs_nihilism absolute_vs_relative on red 070311 what's it to you? who go blather from