often_overlooked_typical_male_qualities minnesota_chris I was landscaping yesterday. When I'm not using a shovel, I like to stick it into the ground. Hand trowel, same thing, except I throw it and make it stick into the ground. Women don't do this so much. 030511 ... niska when he does something, or behaves in an unsatisfactory way, we go, 'how typical', but there's plenty of things he does that aren't bad at all - and they're right on que. here's where we reflect on the typical things about the male gender that are positive. (not physical things. for that, go to 'what is sexy' or some page like that...) guys are typically very sentimental. they tend to remember the moment you met; what you were wearing, things you said... and they will never forget their mothers' birthdays. they will ususally, and without complaint, do things their friends would humiliate them for; shopping for shoes, going to dinner parties, wearing a tie, eating with a fork... he just wants to spend time with a woman, regardless of what the activity is. and more often than not, men will do anything to avoid a confrontation. ANYTHING. when a man is wrong (for real - not because a woman is cranky and irrational), he knows it. he is sorry about it. he will feel guilty for some time, especially if he never felt safe enough to apologize for it. men are typically so concerned with women's feelings that they will deny their own, if they are not one hundred percent confident they will be met with reassurance. typically, males are just waiting for females to tell them what to do, because nothing is more important to them than making us happy. it makes them feel powerful. men typically think of everyone else before themselves. really. it may not be apparent, but any reaction, or lack of, a man has to anything is based solely on what someone else is going to think of him for it. when a man expresses himself in an emotional way, he trusts, respects and feels protected by the person he is expressing himslef to. typically... 030511 ... so funny Yeah, right. ha! ha! 030511 ... niska hmm... you know, i don't think you're alone, chris. i've seen this done many a time. i've also observed that nothing is properly placed in a wastebasket, unless it's done from at least ten yards away. 030511 ... minnesota_chris and you have to say "He shoots he scooooorrres!" or some such basketball cheer, complete with fans going wild. I don't think all men are so considerate as you think, ms. niska. Me, for instance, I do think of others first, but I don't even remember my own birthday, much less anyone elses. You've been lucky to be surrounded by such good guys! 030511 ... niska you would be surprised to know you are, really. but you're a guy; what would the front be for then? (now, THAT'S typical male behaviour) and if you can't remember your own birthday if someone asks, i'd say that's pretty atypical. and tragic. i hope you're cute, if you're that dumb. 030511 ... smurfus rex I've known a particular woman for about 8 years now and we're fantastic friends, but I'll be damned if she can't get me to do things I wouldn't ordinarily do if someone else asked me to do them. She has a strange power over me, and I will stretch myself to the limits in order to make things happen for her. On another note, I think another typical male quality is the tendency to stack things. Like empty Coke cans or dominoes or cards. We make pyramids and walls and houses for little more reason than the chance to knock it all down when we're done. Am I wrong or is that just me that does that? 030512 ... pipedream and they spend much more time trying to get you un-pissed at them than we would them. heh. and then you want 'em to stay when they give up and huff off, if only they knew it was working anyway *lol* 030512 ... minnesota_chris I can reliably give my birthdate. I can't, however, reliably give the current date, and I'm often dicey on the month. Yes I am dumb, but very cute. I don't understand your first paragraph. Ha, pipedream, you tease. 030512 ... stork daddy you ever love something or someone even more than destruction? it's an interesting sensation isn't it? wanting the stable. 030512 ... minnesota_chris so niska, if you know all these caring considerate guys.... who made you leave San Diego? 030512 ... niska you said i've been lucky, and i said you'd be surprised to know you are. as in also. i'm certainly not implying anything by that, btw... no one made me leave anywhere (come on. you know i wouldn't put up with that shit), but i was persuaded with little resistance. he had my heart, and if i wanted to live a life without one, i could have stayed there. but what kind of life would that have been? i agree that some men have perfected stacking as an art. is it a gift? or is it sheer laziness? a man can place every glass he owns on top of an already bursting dish rack, just so he doesn't have to dry any, and it still won't topple over. and i've learned most have abandoned the more than one trip to the car method a long time ago. also, men typically have the ability to revert to childhood at any given time. picture it: there's a sandbox. some kids have tractors and other stuff... you are most likely all right in there, making sounds like "BRRRMMM!" and "EEEERKSH!" let me tell you, a day with tom at a beach is really like a day by yourself while he plays at the beach. he has sand toys. and i'll never get to be the bucket, because i do it wrong... (??) men must just like playing in the dirt, i suspect. 030512 ... unhinged the way many of them have to disguise saying something nice with saying something dickheaded in the same breath: 'this is the best gift anyone has ever given me. i don't think i can say how much i appreciate it without being my usual dickheaded self' (this might not be the best example because it includes the atypical admittance of above mentioned typical character trait) 'i miss kissing you even with your stinky breath' 030512 ... minnesota_chris yup, those are pretty asinine. But I think those are punker and/or things to say, not necessarily masculine (they remind me of my last girlfriend, awwwww) 030513 ... minnesota_chris oops should say "punker and/or depressed things to say" 030513 ... niska yeah... but typical dickhead crap is rarely overlooked. 030518 ... . . 040610 what's it to you? who go blather from