hold_the_damn_phone grendel someone who comes around calling everyone here "mindless stupid people" and "cowards" and then has the nerve to say that they aren't looking for a fight or an argument? That's about as brilliant an idea as walking into a bar, calling everyone in the place a bunch of names and then having the nerve to wonder why i didn't make it out of the parking lot. Maybe the first person to tell you off about something was out of line, fine. But when you decided to turn it into your own little crusade (and admit it - the longer you stay after having assured everyone you were leaving and the more you try to try to obfuscate by playing the martyr whenever someone pokes a hole in your arguments - it's a crusade now) If we are such a source of grief to you, just go. Your alternating between condescension and rancor will harden more hearts than it will turn. The message is lost in the hands of a bad messenger 030506 ... me ok.. if thats how u feel.. im sorry if i called anyone that mindless stupid people it was someone elses phrase i think they were describing,' for them', Christians.. i just borrowed it yea i was hurt and dissappointed no one likes rejection that feeling havent you ever gotten annoyed out of hurt, at anyone? were you ever in a place you felt alone and ganged up on? its how i felt here.and all the other reasons i left i dont know that you're, any of you 'mindless stupid people' or cowards, no..that kind of way can come in any faith , or any person.. i do think mindless stupidness can be displayed..in ganging behaviors and cruelty which was often sent my and Christians way.. im sorry you think/feel we (Christians) are not capable of having more than one feeling or thought.. we do.. as re cowards i don't think anyone is bullying is though under the guise of 'the groups agreement' i find that loathesome and cowardly any unkindness from any faith or person speaking for a 'group' a 'majority' and (anonymously) jumping on another person 'not' in that majority yes,i find thats cowardly i do i do.. anonymously or not.but anonymous is worse if you find that 'poisonous ' or bitter.. im not but i defintely felt guarded here just one of many reasons i chose to go yes, i lingered here sorry it bothered u so.. is anyone here? i dont know and cant say i can see behaviors tho.. 030506 ... me yes,its true i was hurting when i wrote that stuff id never set out to hurt anyone in anyway..it was an observation about somegroup dynamics i saw..believe what you wish.. what you choose to believe is up to you im tired of feeling like im at a trial no ones watching..and its 'my ' trial no one likes to feel that 030506 ... me someone who comes around calling everyone here "mindless stupid people" and "cowards" and then has the nerve to say that they aren't looking for a fight or an argument? That's about as brilliant an idea as walking into a bar, calling everyone in the place a bunch of names and then having the nerve to wonder why i didn't make it out of the parking lot. Maybe the first person to tell you off about something was out of line, fine. But when you decided to turn it into your own little crusade (and admit it - the longer you stay after having assured everyone you were leaving and the more you try to try to obfuscate by playing the martyr whenever someone pokes a hole in your arguments - it's a crusade now) ''If we are such a source of grief to you, just go. Your alternating between condescension and rancor will harden more hearts than it will turn. The message is lost in the hands of a bad messenger ..'' -i wasnt trying to be condescending.. rancor i dont understand.. 'bad messenger' ok whatever these are your hearts sentiments im not going to argue or argue them 030506 ... niska oh yeah... this was way too long to read. 030506 ... Aimee can we all just shut the fuck up about the religion issue. Fine. Grace is a fanatical christian who loves jesus, loves god, loves her mama, loves america and loves elvis (just had to go the tom petty route with that). I don't really care as long as she's not preaching to me. On the other hand. Everyone else (who was attacking her) can be the dirty pagans who love the goddess, whilst thinking he/she/it doesn't exist, loving rock and roll and sex and drugs and humping the neighbor's dog while fantasizing about their 9 year old sister in the shower. I still don't care. Just don't start preaching to me. I guess my point is, quit fighting about who is right and who is wrong and just enjoy the ride. We'll all find out who was right or wrong in the end (if anyone even had an answer remotely close I'm going to be impressed). Don't worry about whether or not I or anyone else goes to church on sunday, takes communion and saves their soul for another week. I'll take care of my soul, and you can do whatever you want with yours. Talking about religion is fine. Fighting about it isn't.. Look at the state in the middle east (NOT iraq). Iraeli's fighting the palistinians over religion and people are dying. And YES!!! it is the exact same thing regardless of what "civilized" crap you think you have spewing out of that mind of yours. Wouldn't life just be nice if we could all just decide that it's not fucking worth it to fight and just LOVE one another? What an amazing concept!!! 030506 what's it to you? who go blather from