silentbob I went to minneapolis once with my hair all spiked up. we went into this take out pizza hut, that had really great pizza that made my mouth water.
in walks this guy with dreads and he's muttering something wanting to see some JAPANEEZ ANA MAY SHUN! His eyes widened as he said i looked like something off Final Fantasy Seven, and we laughed and smiled and i felt culturally experienced, just a notch further, and i talked to him about different anime i'd seen and i felt like we sort of connected, it was a wonderful experience.
silentbob maybe it wasnt dreads, maybe it was corn rows 000703
Juve Is this what you type about ebonics? Be real here peoples. Ebonics is African American Vernacular English (AAVE). It is our form of the english language. We speak it with pride and ease. Some may think that we only know Ebonics and cannot speak proper english but they are wrong. Ebonics is what makes us African Americans different! It is our language of life, knowledge, wisdom and black pride. It is us! 011012
Juve African_American_Vernacular_English 011012
chocolatte yo dat shizzle ain't gonna work up in herre, ya knaw 'mean?

yeah, I'm pretty white. can't pull it off.
realistic optimist the first step of creating a new culture in a land far removed from the motherland, the language dialect of ebonics has helped to foster a sense of cultural identity to fill the void of that which was stripped away due to slavery and involuntary immigration. a rather colorful, rhythmic, and interesting way to speak, it almost requires the speaker to loosen up and flow a bit more. taught as a "language" in some schools, as stated above, it is merely a dialect, not unlike southern drawl. ebonics off da hook done work fo me, y0! 040109
oldephebe RO, I respectfully disagree

how can i say this w/o being uneccessarily abrasive or truculent or coming off as a little ponderous?

as a black man i abhor ebonics. to me it is simply linguistic laziness, and i am not inclined to listen to anyone speak it. by speaking it an african american affirms every misbegotten stereotype about a black man's supposed inherent intellectual and cultural deprivation.

i cannot applaud illiteracy and i cannot affirm that educated blacks who recline it it's supposedly culturally affirming waters are "keeping it real" or maintaining some kind of affinity

i've seen many black men and women when confronted or in a discourse with a white or black person who is articulate hide the flames of thier shame and insecurity behind a scowl

*i cannot applaud illiteracy CONT'D*
(which somehow absolves the black middle and upper middle class from the guilt of having slipped the surly bonds of the ghetto and acquired an education that has afforded them a comfortable life and a gratifiying proffessional life)

with the brothers or sisters still mired in the so called insidious and intractable manacles of povery and hence the ghetto.

ebonics to me is simply part of the lingering and ignoble legacy of slavery. ebonics was at first a peoples' (who were proscribed from learning the written word under punishment of a protracted and blood drenched beating by the lash of a whip)valiant efforts to grasp an alien medium of communication that merged with the natural cadences of thier native tongue.

ebonics is not a communal discourse that bridges and unites all blacks of various social and economic strata thereby expanding the communal knowledge base so that we can all hold hands and sing a swahili approximation of kum bah yah my lord kum ah yah.

and sure linguistically erecting a gleaming citadel of boroque grandeur that sure sounds pretty but whose meaning is lost in the dense verbiage of exhibitionistic parading pedantry is well...approximates a kind of odiousness
that rivals the kind of contempt that ebonics disjointed and parodic approximation of standard english illicits.

this is the hoax, the illigitimacy of the so called cultural iconography that social science churns out.

how long will we ring out the rags of the past upon our heads? how long will we try to impute nobility and standing to those aspects of our culture that help to keep segments of african americans from participating in the wider economic and cultural arena? How long will we sit like a shallow ribbed mangy cur greedily and slavishly lapping up the few patronizing morsels that social scientists and by extension well meaning but condescending and patroniaing whites graciously cast at our feet?

I cannot in no uncertain terms legitimize illiteracy.

I want to light torch fires in the heavens and turn all heads to see the fallacy of what is being exalted as a cultural touchstone or an inviolable act of ethnic affirmation.

The things we keep quiet about are slowly strangling us.

shall we abdicate what we know in our hearts to be a cleverly crafted lie to demagogues such as jesse jackson and al sharpton and social scientists feeding at the trough of the public dole?

sure i could of just bitterly glared at this blathe page as a reply...i don't mean any offense to you RO i don't know if your black or white, and i don't think that really matters anyway.

i don't know...i just find the whole IDEA of ascribing a term like ebonics formulated in the dank basement of a social scientists bored and broke head as he floundered about trying to write some grant proposal that would sustain his dubious professional or university career for 5 more years...the whole idea of ascribing a term like ebonics to an entire sub-culture of illiteracy under the aegis of diversity is uniquely abhorent and constitutes the kind of insidiousness of nazi era scribes and ad men except this time it's african american social scientists and demagogues gleefully assisting in thier own peoples deleterious marginalization.


it IS good to see you back in blather though RO
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