community_colleges squigglybee anyone go to one? i do, and i like how they seem to be more personal than a large university. of course, you do have a more limited course choice, but overall it works nicely for some people like me. 020706 ... Sonya I went to one for two years and got an Associate's degree in general education. Of course, I then transferred to a 4 year school. Still, the smaller community was nice because whenever you walked across campus you had a 90% chance of seeing someone you actually knew or had another class with. I don't regret the experience one little bit. The classes made me well rounded and the student body was more diverse (especially in age demographics.) It wasn't as competitive as it is at 4 year campuses. Everyone seemed to have differing goals. I'll look back on those 2 years and remember not only Laney, but downtown Oakland too. 020707 ... squigglybee exactly, and since the four year university that's a few hours away from where i live has an agreement with the community college i attend, i can do my major in elementary education where i'm at and i dont have to drive hours away to a different place which is kind of nice. the student and teacher relationships seem better at a community college than at a regular university too, which i like. 020707 ... misstree w00t w00t! took many a course at community colleges, including sex & gener sociology and the like, and my favorite, "science fiction literature". the teacher was incredible, there were 8 of us in the class, and we covered both short stories and novels, really getting into the meat of the genre and having the discussions and arguments that only a small class could support. we ever got to meet the author of one of the books--he came into class for a q & a as a favor to the teacher. this was one of two classes that semester that i should have failed uttery for attendance reasons, but whomped ass on the subject matter... this one, without ever turning in my final, i got a B. the other was an A (i was mistakenly stuck in a remedial english class). I will *always* be pro-CC's. i don't want my tuition to pay for a football team and alumni suppers and crap. i'm paying for an education, and from my experiences, CC's had the better in that, too. 020707 ... squigglybee very well said about football teams and tuition *applauds you* 020707 ... phil At a good community college, the advisors are better. The teachers are always working with students. Students are given a lot of attention. After a while you might go there to just hang out. Learning is not about where you sit. The first two semesters should be taken at an available community college, even if you get good grades. If you want to find something you are passionate about, community college is the place to start. Going to any college is a good thing. People should never look down on anyone for it. I have had bad experiences at both varieties. A university is comprised of both the best and the worst. This semester my tuesday/thursday had a half dozen students the first day who had signed up for the same wrong class. That could easily have been half the class. How does that happen? What that adds up to is a messed up schedule and $100 of unread book. Some of the university teachers are really great, and I am learning more about the subject than I ever did at community college, but wait. Some of the teachers at the community college were great also. I learned what I am passionate about at the community college. I changed subjects and even graduated from the community college. I got a job with my degree. I was ridiculed for not graduating from a four year college. In truth, I could cut a straight line, when they could not. That is all that matters. I went from someone who hated college, and hated teachers, to someone who hated the workplace. I became passionate about a degree, and loved it for the teachers who were passionate in relating with the students. I have yet to be taught by as many passionate teachers at the university as at the community college, but the outlook is good. Originally, I started out going to the university system and I have returned after learning more about myself. Now, instead of feeling helpless, I see others being helpless. It is rather easy to pinpoint the source of these problems, and far more difficult to put it into meaningful words. Most university students I meet have had to retake some classes. That is horrible, that really is. The lab is run by students, the cafeteria food is served by students, the janitors are students. I had a university professor using students in class to grade one anothers' papers. How are you supposed to grade a technical paper you are learning how to write? I talked with him about it after class. He laughed at me when he found out I went to a community college. He balks at learning! He managed to end the conversation by storming out of the room and into his office. What it comes down to is how many sources I had at the end of my paper, and how many pictures were included? It is recommended you take your writing courses from the English department. I am from a small town, throughout my life I was raised in a city suburb. That is who I am, its the same way with school. I might be a student, but that just makes me a rebel. 110119 what's it to you? who go blather from