theres_nothing_dirty_about_masterbation sabbie it just gets sticky sometimes. 020414 ... daxle what about masturbation, sabbie? 020414 ... sabbie sorry daxle, the 'u' on the other keyboard got stuck :P 020414 ... nomme) unless you're mormon... 050620 ... . "...if you are tempted to masturbate, think of having to bathe in a tub of worms, and eat several of them as you do the act..." http://www.helpingmormons.org/Masterbation.htm 050620 ... fuck your organized religion whoever wrote all that shit should be shot in front of their kids. motherfuckers. 050621 ... Lemon_Soda Perhaps you should say fuck the Buddhists, too, and for the same reason. They say not to masturbate because it wastes chi. I abhor bigotry, intolerance, and prejudice. By the way, I'm mormon and I masturbate. 050621 ... nomme) nobody should be shot i was just making a joke of my own experience) 050622 ... nomme) worms, dirty... 050622 ... nomme) well i guess it wasn't really a joke as such,...i was just laughing to myself) 050622 ... nomme) "The Churches teaches that self-stimulation, or masturbation, is sin. President Spencer W. Kimball taught: "Masturbation, a rather common indiscretion, is not approved of the Lord nor of his church, regardless of what may have been said by others whose "norms" are lower. Latter-day Saints are urged to avoid this practice. Anyone fettered by this weakness should abandon the habit before he goes on a mission or receives the holy priesthood or goes in the temple for his blessings. Thus prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. ... While we should not regard this weakness as the heinous sin which some other sexual practices are, it is of itself bad enough to require sincere repentance." (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p.282) If you are a Church member and are having difficulty stopping this practice, then you should discuss the matter with your Bishop who can counsel you on how to overcome your addiction." http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/daily/sexuality/masturbation.htm 050622 ... . be warned! I'm getting old and my eyesight keeps getting worse and worse - but, fuck it, who NEEDS to see anyway? 050622 ... nomme) lds.org has writings on the subject...including kimball's,...in the search section: 'Search the Gospel Library Archive', searchword: masturbation 050622 ... . i'll pass on that thanks - leave the Mormons to contemplate the edicts of their self imposed teachers and masters. i'd rather concern myself with matters that really cause harm in this world. 050622 ... AeonFlummox what if you play in mud then masturbate? wouldn't that be dirty masturbation? 050622 ... you know it! anyone that says masturbation is a sin should be jizzed upon. 050622 ... methinx " Perhaps you should say fuck the Buddhists, too, and for the same reason. They say not to masturbate because it wastes chi. " You are comparing anti-mormon propaganda to a Buddhist belief structure, not quite the same thing. 050622 ... nomme) well dot, no one was asking you to read anything or concern yourself... i was simply citing sources, as to why i wrote "unless you're mormon". i was gonna write more last night but my computer crashed...) i wasn't trying to bash latter-day saints, or start a 'let's bash mormons fest',...just pointing out what has been a common teaching in the church,...that, masturbation is sinful.) i wonder, if Lemon_Soda is an active mormon, what his bishop would have to say on the subject. as an ex-mormon, i only know what i experienced as a kid 'growing up in the church'. i haven't 'been mormon' in over a decade, and i don't know what anyone in the church might be saying about the matter now... 050622 ... nomme) "On March 2, 1982, Kip Eliason, age 16, distraught and filled with self-hate over his inability to stop masturbating, committed suicide..." http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.asp?Printer=true& 050622 ... satan silly morons 050622 ... methinx This is one of my favorite criticisms, right up there with "Why did Joseph Smith need magic glasses?", "How many mommies do you have?", "Whats with the magic underwear?" and "Why is it a sin to drink pop?". 050622 ... nomme) i never heard about the magic glasses before 050622 ... nomme) one of my favourites was 'mormons aren't really christians') used to quite upset me) 050622 ... nomme) peace yeah perhaps it would've been better if i'd said: theres_nothing_dirty_about_masterbation unless you're a little mormon nomme, being made to feel ashamed (or more ashamed) of your being of course though i don't claim exclusivity i am sure there is a lot of diversity in people's beliefs, and that not all mormons feel or teach that it is a sin to masturbate, (didn't mean to generalize) i just know what i was taught as it related to my young sexual mormonself and if anyone (lds or otherwise) believes it's shameful to masturbate, that is their own belief, or not, and it doesn't really matter to me any which way i'm certainly not going to feel ashamed for what i believe, or don't believe 050622 ... . stops reading, stops being concerned 050623 ... . has another wank 050623 what's it to you? who go blather from