ex_christian shiva anyone else in the same boat as me? 001004 ... grendel yeah, lots of us, i'd imagine 001004 ... d 'honey, we're recovering christians!' 001004 ... ryanthered you know I belive in god i'm just not sure about religion.what do you think? 001004 ... oshekono im thinking that all the disciples would have made dandy ex-christians...if it wasn't for that small tiny detail 001004 ... splinken i never really was one. i pretended to be for the sake of baptist church camps. you can get laid like there's no tomorrow at a baptist church camp, if you play your cards right. not tarot cards, silly. 001004 ... pilgrim I believe in a Reality Incomprehensible To Us, That continues seamlessly through all things. What label to use I am unsure of and furthermore don't care about. 020610 ... reitoei unfortunately much rarer than christians. once youve been trapped, crushed, and brainwashed its hard to escape 020610 ... pink-eye they cling to the starved hills with sunken eyes and ragged clothes, skin soiled and paper-thin. clawing crawling for some sort of safety long fingers gripping into moist soil to get as far as possible 020618 ... Dafremen Poor christians. Poor Jesus. However did the spotlight get turned away from how he lived and get focused upon how he died? Whatever were they thinking? What sacrifice for naught! Would that his original message had been tape recorded, would that his original intent had been unsullied. Now the man that refused to be worshipped, is symbolically drunk as blood and flesh a billion times a year. I commend the religious for having the strength to believe. I commend the faithful for their faithfulness and honestly hope that the promise of immortality has made dealing with their own mortality more bearable. Think upon the life that you now enjoy faithful Christians and ask yourself why it is that you rejoice in Jesus' death, and not in his life, how you praise his confidence upon returning from death, but not in his strength in facing his doubt while he lived. Poor Christians...poor Jesus. 020618 ... dB It is important to remember what I feel to be the most crucial part in the second testiment. Gethsemani. Jesus waited in the garden. He knew what was going to happen but he didn't run. He could have prolonged things, even escaped completely, but he didn't. Which one of us would do the same? 020618 ... Dafremen Before I couldn't have answered yes. Now I think that I could have. I have no fear of death, only a desire to embrace life. I guess the main difference would be that I wouldn't sacrifice this beautiful life that I have been given, knowing that my message, the entire purpose for my living would be twisted and misused. Jesus did. Certainly a more selfless act than I myself would be capable of. My little brain still claims its share of my motives, however reined in he is these days. 020618 ... Dafremen Broken blather...hope this fixes it. 020618 ... unhinged *raises hand and waves it around* but i'm not exactly buddhist either *shrugs* 020618 ... Dafremen But you still rub his belly for luck and DON'T you deny it's true. Well you wanted to anyhow and let's face it...same thing. 020619 ... anne-girl HELL yeah! i'm just getting around to reconciling it, being comfortable with my agnostic atheism stuff and man, the transition sucks, but it's totally liberating... enlightening - sans God is freedom, dude! i still have to get m'self a new set of morals, but y'know... it'll come it's a spiritual experience, i swear not necessarily recommended, though 050726 what's it to you? who go blather from