a_question_for_y'all log burning fire what is the holiest thing you have ever seen? 020814 ... Freak That spoon in the kitchen we use to dish out green beans. 020814 ... frantic if you were gay, would your parents still have let people of the same sex sleep over? 020814 ... Ariadani i have a friend who hasnt told his parents that he's gay just so that he can still have overnights...interesting... 020814 ... bzzzz The holiest thing? Hmmmm... Jesus' dick. 020814 ... blue sky with clouds i have seen the potential of what is to come. 050724 ... iNsEcUrE_GoTh_GiRl ha ha ha to the gay sleepover question. i'm bi and my parents are fine letting girls sleep over, but won't let me stay over at my gay (male) best friend's house for the night. 050724 ... oldephebe Why should we continue to accept official representation, definitions of reality? Why shouldn't we critically and independantly investigate and without guile and a non-aggrandizing agenda construct out of objective humanity an alternative discourse and representation and definition of the intersections of *myraid realities (*read marginalized and hence criminalized sub-cultures and racial and ethnic and even alternative artistic visions) meeting in the confluence of competing constituencies of culture and power. I mean let us (a few hardy souls, "a band of brothers/sisters" - because the original phrase was innocently gender exclusive..a band of brothers bound by love" go and infiltrate as much as any criminalized and somewhate authentically criminogenic representation of style as culture can be as a result of an intractable and unavoidable subserviant and pliable relationship to the USA or any Western juggernauts imperatives of power and state and raison d'etre...uh...let's try within reason to not allow the actions of extremists be the arbiter of meaning and allow this kind of vulgar condensed and reductive cultural constructs be shoved down our throats. I'm not exactly a fan of michael moore's either, who has commodified and commercialized the dialogue of protest to an often pornographic excess. ... 050724 ... oldephebe Why should some plasticiene, pro-forma professional mannequin regurgitate reams of mediated images and constructed meaning that is at the behest of exploitative and popularly politicized "hot button" "concerns" and of course a not entirely guiless imperative to propogate and impose upon a laconic carbhydrate consuming debt generating, recumbant and ooh yes "patriotic" citenzenry? By god! the luridly innapropriate and de-contextualized fragments of representation submitted as holy writ are choking the arteries of an already sclerotic and intellectually slovently populace who rather than think critically, {cause thinking critically has been filtered through the ideological abacus of the "right" as being treasonus or unpatriotic or something} rather than wend through the fecal fields and sift the meaning for themselves. Mid-western arhcestypal patriarch who has a series of large callouses on his buttocks from riding his reocnditioned 1955 john deere w/o the seat pad: "Yep, that conclusion as improbable and out of context as it seems fits with my already biased conception and preferred and idealized picture of the real america and it's undesirable elements that i have no probablem accepting this as the truth of ALL truths." ... 050724 ... epithet why is it that how we act towards someone often has nothing whatsoever to do with how we feel about them 050724 ... oldephebe http://novako.com/?p=131 BBC documentary in 3 parts. View it for free at the above sight or download the transcript. I've just watched the first 10 minutes of it. It kinda talks about the sordid de factor or cooperative agency of mediated media images to construct and impose consensus and a plausible rationale for extreme positions and it discusses how the so called affluent society of the 1950's helped to germinate the ill concieved extremism of an unassuming persian college student who would later become a mentor to terrorists. At least that's what I can gather from the first 10 minutes. By the way I am no Sean Penn. I believe that terrorists should be hunted down and if not summarily terminated then at least thrown into a cement cubicle with little daylight and given one small meal a day for the rest of thier lives. But God, we got played. and primed for this moment. Innocent people are being murdered and imprisoned because of not only the fear and panic that terrorists cause but also this emotional priming that MY country, America has been engaging in since the early 90's. ... 050724 ... oldephebe http://www.wanttoknow.info/powerofnightmares that's the correct url that'll get you to the free broadcast you can play in realplayer. It's not digital but... ... 050724 what's it to you? who go blather from