memo_to_psychobabe MisterFunkadelic Considering the inordinate amount of whining you have done around here, yourelf, child - one must ask the question: Precisely what crawled up your ass and died to provoke your new bitchy streak. What? Therapist put you on the wrong meds? Do you need your dose adjusted? Cranial trauma from rolling your car? 021121 ... kerry why do people say stuff like this? it doesn't make any sense. lay off of psychobabe, i'm sure she's fine. this is pointless. 021121 ... celestial have you actually read what shes been saying lately? personally, i appreciate what people have been saying to her in response. but then maybe im just a whiney bitch. the apparently omniscient psychobabe seems to think so. 021121 ... The Spork yeah, anyone turning into a teen-girl version of dafremen on speed can only be a disaster in the making 021121 ... kerry i read some of it. i try not to, really. i'm not saying i agree with everything. this is a computer. we shouldn't take everything so personally, so seriously. that's my opinion, at least. if anyone disagrees, just don't yell at me or whatever. i'm sick of all this madness. 021121 ... Jarec her old writings were fun to read, somewhat insightful... you know, the way blathers should be but lately, she's just like another fu who wants such animosity around? this is a place to vent your frustrations and emotions, but not a place to vent them upon others.... 021122 ... psychobabe *Sigh* jarec...celestial, whatever the fuck your guy's names are. You know I wonder, why you call me a hypocrite, a bitch, a dumb bitch, whatever. Funny how you can say that about me yet jarec and celestial, your both just the fucking same. You sit there and say blather is a place for people to vent their frustrations and anger, but not on other people. Well fuck you. How the hell do you get off on saying that? Shit, i dont know you and you dont know me, have you ever thought about THAT??? Honestly, this place has fucking gone to hell. You know why? cuz of people like that, hypocrites and shit. Fuck, i KNOOOOW i'm a hypocrite, fuck i could care less. But you know sitting there saying shit about me, being stupid, seeing a therapist and being on the wrong medications, where the fuck does that get you??? No where, only on peoples bad sides. I think its great that you feel so high and mighty compared to me. You twist my words, hit me with words and YOUR hypocracy, yet your just the same. Low, ignorant and very very immature. I never thought red would become this. Memo to psychobabe- hah. Nice to know people think they know me just from something i write. This isnt even fucking reality, its blather your looking at a computer screen. I only think things are hilarious cuz of shit like this. Memo to psychobabe. Damn, is that supposed to make me feel depressed, sad, o0h ooooo wait, maybe suicidal. HAH! HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HA AH AHAHAHAHAHA AHA HAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA! shit, did i just offend you because heh, i sweaaaaaar i wasnt trying to. Fuck did you just take that seriously? BTW- kerry thankz. Just when i thought blather went to hell, someone with sense and isnt immature comes up. Your definatly on my buddy side =) rock on 021122 ... have you ♠ your dog today for someone who likes dishing this sort of shit up, you sure seem to get real touchy about having it thrown back at you. for someone who doesn't care you sure waste a lot of time and space bitching about it. good god, you are the teenaged girl version of dafremen on speed. eerie. keep your eye on the road and your hands upon the wheel, it'll save you from those nasty rollover accidents next time if the crank hasn't killed your attention span. 021122 ... the spork all that shit you spew at everyone else, all the space you waste with a bunch of HAHAHAHAH... and you can talk about sense and maturity....please oh go snort another rail and clean something already =) 021122 ... christ in a rolls royce i'll say it again: this place has gone to hell because of YOU, psychobabe, not because of the others. 021122 ... dont label me a shrink. your anger and laughter serves as a mask for the extreme sadness you're still feeling. you're a fool to think you've "gotten over" being depressed. 021123 ... Jarec reality is nothing more and nothing less than you make it, psychobabe someday you'll finally grow up and realize that growing up was not worth the right to say you have 'grown up' taking things seriously is something people tend to do when they're laughed at or ridiculed, you should know this because it's happened to you you don't know what anyone else has been through either, we could all laugh hysterically about your bouts with depression, but as i look back, i don't see anyone who did. in fact i see people offering whatever solace and support that they thought their words could convey. in the end, i do not see any real change in the over all attitude of any blatherites besides you. all in all, i am just trying to say, please step back and take a look at what you're becoming on here. 021123 ... christ in a rolls royce ! amen 021123 ... wasting my hate I second that! 021123 ... Dafremen Oh NO! a Teen girl version of ME on SPEED! THis I've gotta see! (Anyone got an index handy?) So HERE we find the closet full of coat hangers! The usual girlish gossiping nitting and picking? On blather red no less?! "You're a bitch psychobabe and of course, since we've made the preemptive judgements, we're not." Please ladies, do tear into me now. I think three steps back, a healthy perspective and the annals of history will be the judge of who was more pathetic and bitchy here, the writers, or the readers. "If I had a dollar for every critic that called me a name..I'd trade a thousand of em to punch one of the sneaky little cockroaches in the nose." 021123 ... belly fire angry people throwing knives feeding cruelty so it thrives red rover red rover uhoh! Recess is over! 021123 ... kerry this is PATHETIC. i mean, seriously, what a waste of WORDS. what a waste of your time, EVERYONE. maybe even blathing here, under "memo to psychobabe", is a waste of MY time... yeah, watch somebody call ME a hypocrite now. bullshit. the truth is, if i really didn't care at all, i would stick to my guns and not say a word. i would watch everyone spew and rant and say all this awful shit to everyone else but this is annoying. please stop, everyone. remember, this is a WEBSITE. you're at you COMPUTER. you don't know any of these people. what they say to you/about you shouldn't matter, because yes, they don't know you. you should believe in yourself enough to not get so upset over things that people say. 021123 ... jane i was thinking somewhat about something that psychobabe has said on broken_heart: "ever get that feeling..you know when your just blank. Or the feeling when you try to do something right for a change but your mother doesnt seem to notice...? " i think that she is a lot like i used to be...my parents were so busy getting a divorce that they ignored me for about a year, and i did plenty of things to try to get their attention, even negative attention, to no avail. anyway, does anyone think that maybe that's what she is trying to do? i feel sorry for her that she has to turn to such means to do so. 021123 ... Dafremen Welcome back to the human race memo_to_psychobabe blather. You deserved much better and, speaking for myself and the rest of my also misguided apelings, I would like to welcome you to our heads. I will now do my part to help you continue to evolve into something worthy. Memo_to_psychobabe: Dear chicklette, I hope things are going well for you. You sound kinda down in the dumps lately and I bet it can't be easy for you going from 0 to bitchy in 5.6 seconds flat. Something's obviously wrong and I hope whatever it is gets better for you real soon. I know I'm prolly the last one you thought you'd hear words of encouragement and support from, but wasn't I also one of the first? You know my email if you ever have anything you wanna get off yer mind, I always have the time, and as you know, I've got plenty of words just sitting around waiting to be put to good use, so write sometime if you like. Daf P.S. I also double as a punching bag in case you haven't noticed. Rest assured that I enjoy the job very much and I would be happy to be yours too if you need one. I mean that. 021123 ... The Spork your take on this is awfully rich, daffy. no, no, let me rephrase that THICK. so much so that i think i need my waders to get through it all. and somehow it doesn't surprise me that you would go and side up with the one who decided it was a good week to be an antagonist. for being so intolerant of other people's wallowing you play the martyr beautifully when the shit starts hitting the fan and you catch the splatter. how does it feel to be in the same position as that of the people you use for target practice? it just struck a lot of people as funny (both in that funny-ha-ha and funny-strange) kind of way that when poor defenseless little psychobabe was really down and blue and let her words go here, i don't remember anyone stalking her blathes just to bag on her like she felt the need to do to celstial or whatever the hell his/her name is she felt the need to piss all over someone, other people felt the splash and pissed right back (sounds like someone we all know) it's a real simple concept daffy, maybe that's why you keep missing it... sometimes it's best to just leave well enough alone. i was surprised you lasted as long as you did without being blather's resident flaming pain in the ass during the last few months. the quieter, reflective, circumspect daffy was actually getting to be likeable but then, suddenly, someone quoting a radiohead song seems to have pushed your talk button and now we have the old daffy back, and i can't say i missed it it was interesting that somebody made the comparison between her and you and your display of sympathy for her is quite out of character for you now that you mention it, daf - i suppose the only reason she earned that from you was in her willingness to attack other people without any provocation birds of a feather, i suppose. christ, you are getting to be a bad influence on me too, i think my rant on you ran twice as long as i planned it to, but i guess we have that in common (neither of us, it seems, could ever be blamed for living up to the adage that brevity is the soul of wit) you see, difference between me and either of you two, is that when i am being mean i am blatant and brazen about it and don't try to rationalize it or candy coat it by saying that i'm really only trying to help or any other improbable horseshit like that. when i'm being mean, i do it because somebody walked right into it and sometimes i get a big chuckle out of it you know like HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH etcetera rock on =) 021123 ... guitar_freak babe, I love you! Even if what you say pisses everyone off you don't have to ever explain yourself to anyone. EVER. On the other hand, we have both been to hell and back and know what it is like to be where some of these people are today. some compassion can go a long way when you feel as if hell is hugging on to you for eternity. Keep in mind what it used to be like. Peace 021123 ... Dafremen I get it spork. I get it perfectly. I understand why we piss on those who piss on us. I understand too why some preemptively piss. In fact, I understand better than most. I hope that now you will get it too. For you, for everyone that doesn't and everyone that does, I have left something on blather blue. You are welcome to file away what you find there as thick b.s. too, seriously. I don't think I could blame you if you did, but then again, I don't think it would surprise either of us if you did. You have never played into my hands, nor have I played into yours, we've both been playing into the hands of the society that we were born into and the way we have been taught to react to hurt, indifference, fear, rejection and cruel, hard words. I'm done playing that game and so I offer you something that I have only occasionally left behind here..sincerity. (Except in my poetry, which was always the key to figuring me out, right out in the open, but hidden behind volumes and volumes of other crap that I wrote to hide it.) You are welcome to read and know the truth and assume it's a game or take it for what it is. You may ignore it, and that would certainly be expected after what you have come to expect from me. I imagine that would not be just your loss, but probably mine as well. You seem like a creative funny person. There are those who have known the truth about me for a couple of years now, they would tell you what the truth is, but I have asked them not to(through email correspondence.) Now it is there for you to see and judge for yourself. As for psychobabe, we each feel the burn in a different way and we each have our own way of screaming. You scream your indignance and rage, she screams her pain and frustration. She bites with cruel swiftness and persistence in the shadow of sweet intentions as have I in the past, you bite in the shadow of the open, trusting that the openness somehow makes noble your retaliation. It doesn't and I think we both know that. You have jumped into the sh*t with us all, hopefully it won't get much deeper or we'll all be eating it together. Bon Apetit? (clasps hands together) Or would you prefer a boost? see also: THE_EXPERIMENT_IS_OVER (on blather_blue) 021124 ... psychobabe ...... 021125 ... psychobabe you know....this is to everyone who can sit there and say such shit about me, yet none of this was ever meant towards ANYONE- fuck you all. FUCK you all. Seriously, i know what its like to be in some situations, i've dealt with parents, i've dealt with drug addict friends, and i've gone through some things that may have been fucked up. But you know what, what i learn from it all only makes me stronger. People like guitar freak, kerry and dafreman seem to be the only ones, who ALSO used to talk on blue blather who make sense. Your low maturity, hypocricy, and labelment seems to show just who you all really are. Quoteing lines from my previous blath's, how fucking dare you. WTF are you trying to prove? that i USED to be sad, weak, and depressed like you???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH GETTING BETTER???? HONESTLY! FUCK YOU ALL! HHAHAHAHAHA AHAHHAHAHAHHAA HAHHAHAHA what did that piss you off? cuz i laughed in my own blather? damn. I'm sorry, oh i really didnt mean to (try not to sense my sarcasm) I think its hilarious how you all have decided to label me, taunt me and yet somehow your all just like me. One day you'll get over yourselfs, open your eyes and see what life is really like. This little "phase" your all in, or what seems to be a phase may pass, or may not. Who fucking knows, i certainly dont. But sitting there, swearing at me, calling me names and saying all this shit to try and bring me down only makes you, YES YOU look like the stupid ones. Sarah, Daf, Kerry, i love you guys. I really do. Blue blather pioneers. 021125 ... psychobabe o0h and one more thing... rock on=) 021125 ... celestial "AHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAH AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAAA HAHAAAH HAHHAHAHA HAAHAHAHAHAHA AHHAHA HA AHA AHAHAHAHA *points and laughs at you ALL*" that wasnt directed towards us all? "*cries like a little bitch* sometimes i hate myself i do not deserve anyones kindness HAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AH AH AH HAHHA HA HAHA HA HAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA AHHHAHAH AH AHA HA AHAH HA!" that wasnt directed towards me personally?? "you know.....*sits and ponders* ALL of you people on blather who fucking sit there and complain about your mothers, need to fucking open your damn eyes. I mean FAWK, how the hell would you be here today if it weren't for the one you call mother? huh? i just sat here and laughed me fucking ass off cuz of all your pity storys, i mean shit, funny stuff i swear- *wipes a tear from laughter off her eye*" and i suppose that wasnt directed towards anyone here either. call me a hypocrite. at least i laughed at anyones suffering. 021126 ... celestial no one said there was anything wrong with getting better. fuck, im happy for you because you apparently no longer have to deal with depression anymore. (although some would debate that point.) people got upset because you seemed to think that just because you got better, you could laugh at others and tell people to get over themselves. even though, as you should know, its not that easy. theres absolutely nothing wrong with getting better. but there IS something wrong with laughing at others for feeling the way they do. but whatever eh 021126 ... the spork Psychobabe, it's like this... If you fire a shotgun loaded with rocksalt into an unsuspecting crowd , you'll see that crowd suddenly become an angry mob chasing you. Just because you aren't naming names doesn't mean you aren't directing your words at people, you can't humanly be that lacking in perspective. Christ, kid, though many of us were born at night, it sure as hell wasn't last night. And frankly, I was amazed at how self-important you came off by suggesting that the only people who were displaying sense or maturity were the ones defending you. The "who, me? What did i do?" approach stops working sometime just after fourth-grade it's a simple matter of karma, you shouldn't throw bombs if you don't want to get hit by the debris or want any bombs thrown back 021126 ... Dafremen I think this is all sad. Very sad. I don't mean sad in a pathetic sort of way...I mean sad in a brings tears to my eyes sort of way. It's like a snowball effect, with the pain and the hurt and the bitterness that has been and continues to be acted out being met with resistance and vilification. Noone, particularly not me, is saying that people yelled at couldn't reasonably be expected to yell back. Neither am I saying that people whose buttons are being pushed won't react in a manner that those buttons dictate they will, but it just strikes me as absurd that those of us who are obviously intelligent enough to see beyond the effect to the cause don't do that. Instead, we choose to let that effect be cause enough for our own effect. Why would someone lash out for no reason whatsoever? THAT should be our first question. It's obvious that whoever started the lashing out has an issue of some sort...a problem...most likely some pain or depression. How do we DEAL with people that are hurting? We who are the defenders of the weak, the stand up and GET the monster types? We who stick up for the crowd? Normally, if we are presented with pain and suffering in what WE feel is an acceptable manner, we empathise...sympathize, give some kind words of support and the healing begins. What if there is a reluctance to sincerely share one's hurt with others? What if the world's Dafremens have left these people-in-pain reluctant to share their feelings and their pain openly and honestly? What if instead they find themselves LASHING out..calling out irrationally for that SAME help, that same compassion...but in a different way? What then? Obviously the monster isn't the person then. The monster, as in the case of the less abrasive hurting-person, is the PAIN, it's the suffering...it's the sadness. And the cure? It's identical to the cure in the first case...it's just that the symptoms are different. I think we are intelligent enough and capable enough to look through an act. I know we ALL aren't...the Dafremen experiment demonstrates that beyond all doubt. With THAT behind us and in our experience, don't you feel that your big heart is capable of seeing a person in pain? Especially when you've seen so much else that would indicate...THIS IS NOT A SPITEFUL PERSON. This is normally a cheerful, happy person...SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG. In the absence of evidence of any kind...I agree with you one hundred percent Spork..the crowd must simply defend itself. But even the police call in a psychologist before the SWAT team. I think we're smarter than the cops, both of us and many more of us. Can't we see through the charade and give the same compassion that we would if it was asked for? After all, that's what this lashing out IS more often than not...a plea for compassion, understanding and a kind word. 021126 ... Dafremen Oh..and this blather got broken...I probably shouldn't have fixed it. 021126 ... the spork i did my best to avoid using any of my harsher scoldings here, but some of the rationalizations i'm hearing from her still don't wash. i refrained from directly insulting her and asked her to stop insulting anyone's intelligence through her insistence that none of those tirades of hers were personally directed. just shooting for a little equity here. 021126 ... The spork though perhaps i could have left out the line about self-importance, in hindsight that may or may not turn to be a regrettable assessment (these things always hinge on perspective and time) 021126 ... psychobabe ok ok ok this is the end of it all alright? please? I'm sorry celestrial, i never ment to say such things, that you may have taken personally. I'm sure your a really cool person, and fawk, who knows maybe we've dealt with the same things. I'm sorry the spork, i know we both seem to be very opinionated. Which yes, i do admire, really. I only laughed because, blah, it was a bad day, just needed to laugh. I really, really never ment it towards anyone in general. So i apologize to you and celestrial. Whoever else i may have offended, it wasnt ment. I never really thought this would turn into such a bad thing, or such a war of sides...but yes i can see where your comeing from. Just please, try to see where i'm comeing from. I claim to have gotten over my depression which yes, mostly i have. And things in life seem better, i have reasons to live. Which someday i hope you guys will have, or whatever (you know what i'm trying to say right?) but yes, truce. Plain and simple. This is blather and it shouldnt be made up of put downs and harsh words. If you dont except the apologies, i'm sorry you feel that way. I can at least say i tried. 021126 ... the spork accepted. 021127 ... the_silence what comes around - goes around. It'll all come back two-fold. If you have been compassionate you shall be rewarded two-fold and so on... 021127 ... Dafremen I think a Scorpio must have written that above quote. It 's always revenge and reward. Revenge and reward... Yea Spork, you could see that she couldn't come completely to that side you were hoping for, but that's a hard thing for some people to do. It REALLY is. Their failings need not be our failings however, I guess what you've done here is a perfect example of how that is true. You chose to see beyond the tenative wording of the apology and see the intention. That's the first step to curing this world of the Dafremen disease. (Ok, so I'm trying to decide whether calling it the Dafremen disease is arrogant. I meant it as penance for what I did. Like tying my name to the plague or something..ya know? Whadda ya think?) 021127 ... Dafremen Silent Bob suggested dafremenism on blather_blue. You like that better? Sounds too healthy to me. 021127 ... . he didn't actually 021127 ... psychobabe yay 021127 ... Dafremen Dontcha just love a happy ending? I do. 021128 ... psychobabe indeaad 021130 what's it to you? who go blather from