do_you_believe_in_coincidence nonlucid or is it fate? 040703 ... :) s_e_e_d_s___o_f___l_i_g_h_t Randomly_scattered_seeds 040703 ... . See also : Serendipity 040704 ... ivyducktwilightseto no no I don't 040704 ... ivyducktwilightseto or wait.... Maybe I do..... 040704 ... ivyducktwilightseto Ah hell I don't know. I suppose coincidence is the same as fate in certain aspects. So, if everything is predetermined (fate) then wouldn't a coincidence be two people's fates crossing paths? I need to sit down, this is deep shit. 040704 ... :) a_point_in_time 040704 ... mp21 quantum_teleportation 040704 ... kx21 iLink:- The_golden_Rule 040704 ... sameolme Yes! I don't believe in fate, karma, God's will, good or bad luck, or any other magical explanation for our magical world. Coincidence is so often the most "Occum's Razor"ish explanation for the things we tend to want to load with meaning. 040704 ... 1776 feet Why_not? Given M_revolution_of_World_Trade_Center_Freedom_Tower 040704 ... u24 Why should fate and coincidence be mutually exclusive terms? Why shouldn't some things be attributable to fate, and others to coincidence. If there is fate, and it governs everything, then our free will is destroyed, which is more useful, an illusion of free will in a perfect system, or true free will in a system that can crash? 040707 ... u24 swap the comma after destroyed for a full stop. 040707 ... sameolme I don't believe in fate, because the word doesn't mean anything. It seems to imply that something had to happen, but it doesn't explain why. Of course everything that has happened, has had to have happened, but it is fundamentaly mysterious. Fate and karma are just facile non explanations. Besides its uselessness in clarifying the world, the idea of karma helps to enslave people. In India, there are many millions of poor (untouchable) people who are subjugated partly by the idea that it is their "karma" to be beggers. They accept "their fated destiny in life". No matter how romantically or religously you say it, its bullshit that enslaves people. I'll lay into free will, another crappy idea, at some other time. 040707 ... puredream You and I are entirely coincidence. 040707 ... nonlucid It could also be freeing, rather than enslaving, it seems - the realisation that things are as they are, and there's nothing you can do to change the present - only the future Are God and free will mutually exclusive? Say, if God knows everything, then it must know the future, no free will On the other hand, maybe that's just one of those questions like "can God create something so heavy it can't lift it?" 040707 ... z co-incidence. concurrent occurrence. meanwhile back at the ranch. 040708 ... witchesrequiem unfortunetly.....I do...uhhhh 040708 ... ? ...spoo = ecnedicnioc 040708 ... oops... Coincidence? ...spoo 040708 ... ! i 040708 ... i ! 040708 ... Given why_not? Symmetry, Supersymmetry, Asymmetry... 040708 ... mp21k Specifically:- [Q, H] = 0 040708 ... Tru Poet 3,2,1...1,2,3 Coincidence means it has happened to you and to me. Coincidental...I think not, for coincidence is the answer I have sought. Have I found it, maybe, YES! This topic is coincidental, it makes my heart BEAT in my chest. So tell me now, for I am confused...and let me know whether it's good or bad news. 050419 ... andru235 you've probably known since the first one was shown that there is something there that things would doubly fare and my advice when the same thing shows thrice is take careful note lest you later emote have you ever thought hence, can i summon coincidence? and then one day after it comes amidst laughter? 050419 ... MP21k G_i_v_e_n__across_the_U_n_i_v_e_r_s_e___ 051012 ... pete it's all contingent 051012 ... Christ without the cross fate may destroy our free will or it could be the direct result of our free will being foretold. Hmm. did that make sense? I will leave that up to interpretation 061028 ... - - 100827 ... labther not_so_much anymore 100828 ... unhinged karmic_knots are not coincidence 100829 ... unhinged no 190323 what's it to you? who go blather from