birdmadgetsdownwithhisbadself one perverted bird me in my own words in case anyone was even remotely interested: i play the drums badly (so generally i don't play them at all) ...the saxophones and the clarinet however are quite another story (been playing either since i was nine, same year i grew my first grey hair)...in late teens and early twenties a rebellious streak and a period of criminal behaviour and various addictions (thankfully, i think the statutes of limitations have expired on damn near every possible count...from farmworker to factory hand to technician to minor bureaucrat...love eludes me, but oddly enough, sex does not...from wanna-be priest to practicing witch (and please don't talk to me of wicca...hand-wringing, self-deluding do-gooders) and a tendency to alternate between utter self-loathing and shameless self-promotion (like now) but with all that in mind... what the fuck do i do for an encore? 000520 ... Alexander Beetle die 010608 ... startfires birdmadgets downwithh is bads elf. 010608 ... dB Birdmad, you and me both man. Except I can play drums, yet strings elude me somewhat. Wind instruments? forget about it! 010608 ... oldephebe birdman - the whole independant coordination thing with drums eludes a lot of people don't feel bad. Now the saxophone and clarinet it is said that those are some of the easiest instruments to learn to play but also a few of the hardest to master partly i think because 2 destinct styles or aesthetics are required to master say classical sax/clarinet - and then another completely different aesthetic for jazz. The technical facility is required for both - you know to play blistering passages blithley - but the variegated shadings and nuance of tone that jazz requireds and the extemporaneuos composition of sometimes complex arhitectures of harmony you know - improvisation requires more than just classical musicianship it requires at least to me and my experience an acute intuitive facility - i still love the drums though i'm only mediocre at best - play on - i would say bird but that revered sobriquet is reserved for the sainted sorcerer of sizzling, scintillating Be-Bop extemporaneity - you know Charlie Parker - play on man - and oops another indicia of the arcane and esoteric - relentless inner critic: you said it oldephebe: play on man birdmad 030713 ... birdmad *tips hat* thanks my next tricks are trying to teach myself more of the finer points of various progamming techniques, applications and languages (though you will never see a birdmad test page) , SQL, speaking japanese, and as soon as i can find one i can afford, trying to teach myself to play guitar in a halfway competent manner 030713 ... Dafremen me too do0d. So many fargin songs and my air guitar is always so finicky. 030713 ... misstree darling avian, what schools/types of muckedy muck do you practice as a witch? (muckedy muck is meant with only love and irreverence, not dismissal or disrespect. hail eris, hail muckedy muck and hodge_podge and fnord and whatever else makes you wise and brave and happy and free. ;) 030714 ... a bird as black as coal i was mostly kinda free-styling it, pulling from whatever discipline most applied to the effect i was aiming for, but lately i haven't even been able to cultivate enough belief to do any serious working. i've hit the same set of points that curtailed my church-going days. after a particular bit of evil i cooked up a few years ago, i wonder if all the shit that's followed after hasn't been the proverbial threefold backfire. in all i guess it's like the song says " that's_what_i_get " 030714 what's it to you? who go blather from