the_angry_man andru235 the telephone conversation ended when he yelled, "GROW UP!" then slammed the phone. so when i confronted him in person today, i pointed out that yelling derisions and slamming phones hardly qualified him as a paragon of maturity. he accosted me about the matter which prompted this: "a real guy would have [conducted himself differently i did]". i wanted to ask if he had an extra copy of the book about things real guys do, but...i was not there for the purpose of inciting anger in those who are already angry. "i'm here to explain what has been a misunderstanding," i said. "i could be mad at you just the same, but i am not." i started explaining point 'a' of my side of things. he waved off my evidence, saying "you should've expected [constant slanderous language]". i moved on to point 'b'. he said, "that was explained to you before hand." i responded that it had not, in fact, been mentioned at all. "yes it was," he informed me. "no, and you weren't there, so how can you claim to know?" i asked. "well i'm sure he explained it," was his rebuttal. "but this misunderstanding wouldn't have come about in the first place if that had been explained. isn't that obvious?" i inquired. "a real guy wouldn't have made a big deal about it," he observed. i pointed out that "real guys struggled for the last millenium to establish a world free of this situation". "no they didn't," he corrected. "that's a lousy excuse." "how often do you intake historical information?" i asked. "that has nothing to do with this! get out of here!" he gestured towards the door. "you aren't even interested in the other side of this, are you," i stated flatly. "there's only one side to this, you-" he cut himself off, as though he had a sudden fancy for decorum. "does this mean you are an advocate of guilty until proven innocent?" i asked. "get out of here!" he yelled. "i haven't committed a crime, you know. nor have i trespassed against you. you are upset because i didn't follow through with a favor you never asked for." "out!" he yelled. onto a chair i placed some things that had nothing to do with the conflict, but belonged to him. "if i was a scoundrel i wouldn't have returned these," i noted. "i expect to be receive the deposit they were lent upon." "speak english and get out!" he yelled. i shrugged. this was like so many idiotic human conflicts and i felt rather...bored. usually i get all shook up in confrontation but today, i was plain old bored. bored! as i left, i turned and noted, "the karmic way of this universe will catch up to us both...i was merely trying to straighten things-" "you need to learn to keep your cool!" he told me. ah, that must be it, i thought. "now get out!" he said, clarifying his position on my being there. i left. on the way out i smiled at the front desk lady and said, "have a nice day!". she smiled back. "you do the same!" 050502 ... minnesota_chris next time someone uses the phrase "real guy" or "real_man", hit him with a lamp to show what a real man you are. 050503 ... dafremen That's one path to enlightenment, Chris. 221226 what's it to you? who go blather from