apple_seed Strideo "It's the domestication effect. Safe in society, people lose thier ability to adapt to enviromental change. They become too dependant on the government, they lose their willpower, channel stress into aggressive behavior . . . in short, they restrict their own options. Unable to cope with all the comfort, they forget the meaning of work, family, education . . ." . 021212 ... Rhin johnny 021212 ... [.:..The SeeR ..:.] Interesting, What societies thoughout history have been affected by this? 021212 ... Strideo I don't know about the whole concept but I agree with the notion that people lose the ability to adapt to change. I think people get too cozy and complacent, they don't care about their own freedom anymore. They just want the government to take care of everything for them. "Safe in society, people lose thier ability to adapt to enviromental change." . 021213 ... [.:..The SeeR ..:.] Hmmm... Who are you quoting in your original post? I'd like to do some more research on this. 021213 ... Strideo Masamune Shiro. He is actually a japanese manga artist. He's known for his philosophical and sometimes political rantings. The quote was from Apple Seed Book 2. He is probably most famous in the US because of Ghost In The Shell. . 021213 ... [.:..The SeeR ..:.] Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.... I've seen that title in the video store... Japanese Animation flicks can be filled with some deep, intellectually stimulating stuff! I really like Ghost in the shell. I've never seen apple seed though, is it good? 021213 ... Strideo Unfortunatly Appleseed Book 3-4 go off on this less philosophical side and focus more on action and techno philia. Shiro says that Book 5 should return its focus to the plot started in the first two books. . 021213 ... Strideo The animated movie for Appleseed is way under par. it focuses on the least interesting aspects of the story, I feel. In other words I think it sucked. Ghost was a much better movie adaptation of his work . 021213 ... bandersnatch ghost in the shell is awsome. but it makes me sad that none of my friends like it. probably because not enough people get blown up 021213 ... scuzz Ahh, blown up. Such an easy concept for America. I'm 16, and no one I know talks about politics. No one cares what happens as long as we don't miss Friends. So many people have tried to express this through poetry, songs, or angry mobs of hippies. Look up. 021213 ... angie oh the lord is good to me and so i thank the lord for giving me the things i need the sun and the rain and the appleseed the lord is good to me sing that song and it will rain guaranteed...(at least in the summer in minnesota) 021224 ... minnesota_chris haha a Christian song with pagan uses! How's the northland treating you? Got any snow to stick to the ground up there? 021225 ... angie there is no snow... it was 52 today... it feels like...April! Little crazy kids are wearing shorts... i see them walking around after they get off the school bus... 030108 ... silentbob cast 030108 what's it to you? who go blather from