mississippellinngss phil believe, what you want to believe. The world is always changing. If you don't keep up it's annoying, but not for long. 030412 ... phil Art doesn't have to be competitive. I have no arguments against arguing. 030412 ... niska neither do i 030412 ... . i do. 030625 ... oldephebe god we all have to make our arguments right? I mean without them we stay locked in our timid little shells, or if one never recieves any kinds of checks or any vision but his own then what - you've got a megalomaniacle jerk or someone so manipulative and accustomed to his/her way - we must make our arguments as opposed to say being autocratic or putting up the peremptory hand and then pimp slap! Not good. Don't be afraid of confrontation that's not a bad thing. Malice w/o pretext and manipulation, autocracy, timidity, reticense, passive agressive stratagems (really insidious)bad. Let us argue and possibly try to hear our advesary as well - and never surrender the argument to someone elses terms dammit!! 030717 ... ferret i try to see things from everyone's point of view and not make personal attacks, makes for much better aguments. and people tend to read them more too. 030717 ... oldephebe *applauds ferrets enlightened position i have this theory: that all angry men, all anger and irritation stems from what an Alusian Island urologist (Dr. Mmeyukkplik M.D. Urologist) calls infinite inverse scotal swelling syndrome - he says that all these tyrannical eruptions result from the scroti being to large for its encasement - and this has caused a cumulative build up of unreleased scrotal anger, irritation an elliptal tireless state of incendiary pain what with the pelvis being inflamed - all these ejaculations of the peremptory and autocratic heretofore categorized as nature or nurture now we see or rather the esteemed Alusian has drawn a compelling case of causal, origin - crrently there is no treatment or effective long term analgesic available. Tirades and tantrums seem to emit a neuro-chemical that ameliorates, inerrupts the elliptical loop of pelvic pain - scrotal i mean. No really this is true. I heard Matt Sludge speaking on it the other night, i think its on his site. tongue logded firmly in cheek 030717 ... ferret ...... ...... . ....... ....... . ................ ................ . ........ ........ .. .. ... ... 030717 ... . "?" 030718 ... a v o i c a n d n o t h i n g m o r e a v o i c e a n d n o t h i n g m o r e enough the end is from the beggining nascentes morimur from the moment of birth we begin to die 030722 ... oldephebe the end from the beggining a v o i c e a n d n o t h i n g m o r e nascentes morimur from the moment of birth we begin to die see the seams of your unmaking? right there the end from the beggining i saw this moment 16 years ago and fled and mourned over its prophecy and what it had to tell me, about the consequences of yielding to its m i s f o r t u n e s 030722 ... kalgy no i have nothing to say nevermind dont worry dont panic dont mind me or you will see that nothing is as it appears to be and if you like cliche it seems that you can be free in types of dreams that seem too real to type or feel just quite this way tonight i bite my fright of hype to tap this thought 060221 ... viator intrieguing 060221 what's it to you? who go blather from