lodro_rinzler unhinged and ethan_nichtern may just be my favorite warriors at the moment 130612 ... unhinged shambhala 130612 ... unhinged the accusations against you are disappointing; mostly because your centers in nyc seemed to be doing so much good in the world. who knows how many people have walked away cause of this. my reaction to a lot of sexual misconduct allegations these days is surprisingly conservative. i have experienced the gamut of sexual misconduct myself so pushing the envelope with someone when drunk...no physical contact or misconduct. just a little excessive flirting/pleading after a woman says no...eh. seems a little ridiculous to blow up someone's career over THAT. if you get violated over something like that, you might be too sensitive for dating in general. you might have some personal work to do yourself before you get drunk with a relative stranger. this is the absurd age we live in; a man and woman get drunk together. the man propositions the woman. the woman says no. the man asks again because he's drunk and horny. she says no again and the man takes it at face value. years later the woman accuses the man of sexual abuse. i was told by a rape counselor that i had no legal case because i was drunk. i know very personally the bullshit that exists in our society around sexual abuse. when you equate getting persistently hit on in a dating scenario to being assaulted it is offensive to me. there is some glaring false equivalency in this situation that hurts all of us. it is one extreme or the other; either we are a patriarchal society where men can literally do whatever they want to women with no consequence (brock turner) or buddhist teachers are being called out for asking a woman on a date more than once for some sex...should we blame men for asking? this seems absurd to me. we need some middle ground here. after so many years of the brock turners amongst us taking whatever they want, there are a lot of women in the world that feel threatened by a man even asking (albeit more than once) for a blow job and being disappointed but accepting of the answer. america's puritanical patriarchal roots are still showing. 180824 ... unhinged (ok_ok i admit that the issue at stake here is a little more complicated. lodro is a teacher and many of his recent books have been about relationships. especially in the buddhist world where vows against sexual misconduct are taken by anyone that takes precepts it seems even more distasteful. a lot of the male teachers i like and respect have been called out this year. with my upbringing (trust no one but yourself to get you to god) it seems like a duh statement that male teachers have at some point in their lives been a little pushy when asking for sex in dating scenarios. if these guys weren't monks at the time and there was no physical violation im not sure why they need to be confronted right now for these minor indiscretions. #metoo has become a parody of itself) 180824 what's it to you? who go blather from