alternative_viewpoint Piso Mojado this evening i was pondering about the role god/spirituality has played in my relationships. with steve, there was no god, no world, nothing but us. that burnt itself out. like we alone could not keep feeding the flame. with y, he had god, i had nothing- no god, spiritual beliefs, or trust in myself/the universe. and it was i who backed out, unable to continue. is it god that i am missing? is my goal to not depend on men/relationship to define myself only patirally on the right track- that i need to let god in? that although i know another person cannot complete me, i myself cannot be complete without a divine presence? im not interested in becoming orthodox, or being born_again, but am i (and therefore all the friendships/ relationships i have) lacking something major? and if i am looking to fulfill this spiritual cavern within me, and im not willing to turn to organized religon to do this, what do i do? where do i go? 040525 ... stand by the lakeshore Personally, the only place you can go it to God. That is what worked for me. Although it seems binding, once you have a mental relationship with Him, you find you can do more! He loves you so much! He sent His son to be tortured and die-for your sins. 040526 ... x god is just another crutch 040526 ... Piso Mojado right- i wholeheartedly agree - my basic outlook on life is that there is no god, and that 'god' is a concept made up by people. but now im thinking that maybe allowing myself a crutch like that may be a good thing. shit, i dont know. 040526 ... minnesota_chris yep, you're lacking something when you lack God. People tell me I'm ... what? Sunny. They can see that I'm a Christian. But I'm not going to tell you to believe. Belief in God can only come from seeing God. And how can you see God? Hell if I know. 040527 what's it to you? who go blather from