conditioned_mind kx21 Conditioned Minds The Black_Hole(s) to understanding... Citation- A Study of the Shurangama Sutra By Bartholomew M. Klick ( Volume II):- 'The Buddha told them that they listened to the Dharma with conditioned minds, so the Dharma was also conditioned, and accordingly they could not understand the true dharma. He said: "This is similar to a person pointing his finger at the moon to show it to someone else. Guided by the finger, the other person should see the moon. If he looks at the finger instead and mistakes it for the moon, he loses not only the moon but the finger also. Why? Because he mistakes the pointing finger for the bright moon." A person who does this not only loses the vision of the moon, but he also loses the finger as well. The finger was supposed to be a guide to help point out the moon, but because you have mistaken the finger for the moon itself, the purpose of the finger is lost. You also lose the light, for when you mistake the finger for the moon you see light, but do not understand where it comes from. 040502 ... ??? http://superstringtheory.com/forum/futureboard/messages8/94.html 040502 ... kx21 iLink:- The_Shurangama_Sutra 040718 ... Oops... The_surangama_sutra 040718 ... How can * Manjusri's_Gatha_Teaching * If on the element of consciousness you meditate, It changes and is not permanent. The mind fixed on it being false that element then help you to achieve perfection? 050419 ... national hero i know very little of buddhism karma, and exixtentialism in general as a study, but a great deal as a person. It's not as hard as said to be by those who think in tangly whisp-webs of incoherent babble. The secret is willpower and actions alone. 060322 ... unhinged stops me from letting it all out from letting_go 100704 ... hsg predictive_programming 100704 ... Given ... 120427 ... Lia the moon is glowing steadily fingers have become as noisy and frantic as drive-time traffic perhaps the world needs less fingers, more moons oh, all the little fingers how they want to be seen active (though by all surface judgements non-active) focus of faith is a quiet art unto itself, glowing 120428 ... daf Sometimes, if you squint real hard and and look at it just right, your thumbnail looks an awful lot like the moon. 120428 what's it to you? who go blather from