you_do_not_'need'_meat andru235 only the weakest and most sickly of persons even approach 'needing' meat to survive, and even then, dietary needs can usually be met with plants. our evolutionary cousins (chimps, orangutans, apes, bonobos, etc) rarely eat meat, if ever. they will almost never 'kill' other mammals. why the fuss about eating meat? well, would you like to spend your life in a prison cell too small for you to turn around, often having to defecate on yourself, having your young snatched from you, and being fed a generic feed often mixed with your species feces and/or cement? no? neither do hundreds of millions of cattle, pigs, chickens, and other animals raised each year in US corporate farms concerned only with profit. if you must eat meat, buy "free range" meats. indeed, if everyone only bought "free range" meats, eating meat would only be half as scandalous. however, the treatment of these animals has become so scandalous that it would still be rather scandalous, even then. you are what you eat, quite literally. so if you eat an animal whose entire existence was spent trapped in a horrible situation, then...! saying "don't tell me" so you can eat veal in peace is an exact definition of ignorance. you are literally choosing to ignore something atrocious so you can enjoy a momentary pleasure. how superior humans are. yes, i am being snide. why? because what goes on at factory farms is disgusting. if you knew, you too would be horrified, and want it to stop. that, or you are heartless. it is truly that horrible, and the numbers of animals who have been subjected to these horrors is in the billions. and all you have to do to make a difference is eat something else. how simple! 050702 ... disinterested party militant vegitarians... militant christians... militant feminists... funny how they all sound the samne you know, standing on your outraged soapbox and bludging people over the head with your beliefs isnt really the best way to get them onside. 050702 ... anne-girl sometimes they're right, though and sometimes people need a little disruption from their daily lives to reconsider what they've been doing not always... but militant people can be useful 050702 what's it to you? who go blather from