another_good_point bijou "Will we ever get to the point where we realize we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty so we can have nice running shoes?" 010919 ... dB The way things are going I'm all for the idea of America conquering the rest of the world and making them all states. Hell I've believed for a long time that NZ was the 51st and 52nd states anyway. At least then we won't have to but up with all this other shit. What do you say? America has the power to take by force and failing that they can corrupt from within (which they do anyway) I guess the only problem would be that there'd be no room for stripes. 010920 ... littleidiot you never have any. 021112 what's it to you? who go blather from