but_i_need_finity andru235 maybe your fear of infinity is the source of this; religious persons and nihilists alike have worked very hard over the past 5900 years to cultivate your sense about what you need clothes, for example "well, maybe your fear of finity is the source of your need for infinity." maybe. or maybe not. if you observe animals, they (obviously) try to avoid all sources of sudden death. but when "their time comes" they go someplace and die, peacefully. this has been observed in every species it has been looked for in. "that doesn't prove anything" no, nor does anything prove anything else. but i'm going somewhere with this. 050418 what's it to you? who go blather from