creative_energy no reason we were talking about putting it to use in somewhat public ways real creations with real names attached i'm afraid of having opinions in public 070730 ... jane energy_vampire 070730 ... sameolme Real is the key, most of us just gaze at this key from a distance. You are right, it is fear that keeps us from using this key. If we are publicly actual then we are publicly attackable. The safety is not worth the price. 070730 ... Doar sparks the electrons, neutrons and those other thingies that kinda float around and do stuff and vibrate and um......yeah.... where was I? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 070730 what's it to you? who go blather from