john_cale johnny west Too often overshadowed by Lou Reed. Cale was at least as much of a driving force in the Velvet Underground as Reed was, until Lou decided that he wanted to control the group. Bye bye John. I prefer the music of John Cale to that of Lou Reed, although I like them both. John seems more willing to experiment with sound and words, whereas Lou is stuck on psychotic songs about fucked up people. John's got a nice scream, too. Any man who detunes his guitar randomly and begins a song with "The bugger in the short sleeves fucked my wife" is at the top of my list. Long live John! 010309 what's it to you? who go blather from