endurance Norm Get off the ground. Don't give up. There's no way it could hurt that much. If it's still attached to your body, it still looks relatively normal, there's no holes in you. How much could it possibly hurt? 011028 ... Norm I've got the endurance of a machine. I ran 20 miles this morning on my own will. Not training for football, not for any sports. I went to school, showered, and went to class. It was minus 20 celsius but I didn't care... 10 one way 10 the other. I'm a machine. 011211 ... Norm Of course at school I drank a mickey of whiskey between 1st and 2nd class.` 011211 what's it to you? who go blather from