worse_before_better daxle He had a pretty good talk going, about metta (loving kindness) but all I could think about was how hungry I was. When I spaced out, I didn't think about how hungry I was. When I was present and either meditating or listening to the talk, I was tormented by my hunger and the knots in my shoulders. Talk about being present with your suffering... Another reminder that being present is not an instant ticket out of your suffering. Sometimes it gets worse before it gets better. 080801 what's it to you? who go blather from