the_writing_on_the_wall sab said IF OUR LEADERS LIE EVERYDAY, IS IT A DEMOCRACY? its not them lying or not that makes this a nominal democracy it that a bunch of people get to choose fdrom a select few to rule and lord over us that makes it so they can lie all they like, and they do, it doersnt change the method of governing system you twat 040728 ... pete raise the rates! 040729 ... "The" Man Good to read, bro. 070710 what's it to you? who go blather from