philosphy phil do what you want your enemies to do 040304 ... u24 good god, no! why would I want to do that? 040305 ... phil I see what you're saying U24, I wouldn't want to do that either. 040330 ... cinzento But doing what I want them to do won't make *them* do what I want them to do. So why bother? 040330 ... phil you're right, it doesn't work. Like you said. 040331 ... u24 I was being flippant. do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and all that. except that that would mean imposing my attitudes on other people, and making assumptions about what they would want. You can't assume everyone wants what you want. 040406 what's it to you? who go blather from