oooo_special klarchen The professor says, "oooo special". When I say this phrase I am most likely referring to such items as rainbow ice cream, sparkly lip-gloss, and/or champagne punch. When the professor says this phrase he is referring to such things as deviations, inferentials, and percentile ranks. My oh my, what a vague world this is. Very vague indeed. 000719 ... the arithmetic mean of grendel and birdmad i failed Stat twice. why the powers that be saw fit to put it under the Psychology banner is totally beyond me. besides, i was too busy being the standard deviant to really understand the idea of "Standard Deviation" 000719 what's it to you? who go blather from