nice_guys ClairE Either, you are a member of a group who just did something horrendous, like overturn a tureen of soup or a group that i dig heartily. I won't accept any other kind, as a matter of fact. They can break you just as badly, though. 011130 ... sphinxradio too much karma wrapped up in these guys; i hurt one, and now hurting because of one. but i think it happens with anyone. too many "one"s in that sequence. 011209 what's it to you? who go blather from