iblis --- In the Qur'an (Sura 15:29-33), Iblis (ash-Shaitan) refuses to bow, per the command of Allah (God) to Adnan (Adam) The argument of Iblis was that it was beneath him to bow to a being formed of dust and clay 031214 ... notme ubliss 031214 ... pipedream Yep...'though its not necessarily 'Adnan', we call him Adam too...oncly pronounced slightly differently :) 031214 ... --- duly noted, and thank you. any opportunity to avoid further error on my part is always appreciated. 031214 ... pipedream i don't know how far you could say yourself to be in error, given that i haven't physically read that part myself. but i could check if you like. 031215 what's it to you? who go blather from