laymen stork daddy i think that, while in some ways accurate, to call someone a laymen carries connotations that are inaccurate. there is no body of human knowledge that is totally outside of the base capabilities to understand possessed by the average human brain. that's a clitoris jimmy. well that's what laymen may refer to it as - i call it the reluctant diamond. 050225 what's it to you? who go blather from