i_before_e_except sameolme after a while I just gave up trying to follow the endless arbitrary rules and their equally silly exceptions. Of course, my schooling suffered, but I retained a smidgeon of sanity. There are a limited number of trivial details you can fill a person up with. I was overflowing with them by the 3rd grade. 070325 ... . same here. 070325 what's it to you? who go blather from