learned_late epitome of incomprehensibility I was probably around 15 when I realized that "indie" in "indie music" was short for "independent." What did I think it was before? This is a little embarrassing, but music from India. Or in an Indian style. As in movies: the Bollywood to U.S.'s Hollywood. Memory of the local paper from when my school did "The Gazette Challenge" when I was 11 or 12, showing a picture of an indie band with a South Asian guy. And so the association was formed or reinforced. But maybe this is a reconstruction in the present. Maybe it was just about the word. 240708 ... e_o_i For years I thought the phrase "a day that will live in infamy" (it's actually "a date which will live in infamy") was something George W. Bush said about 9/11. It was only in my twenties I learned the actual origin (though probably Bush or someone referred back to it): Franklin D. Roosevelt said this about the Pearl Harbor attack in 1941. My dad remembers learning this in school, but then he's from the U.S. 240916 what's it to you? who go blather from